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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: KenInVic]
    #25504422 - 10/01/18 07:14 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

What do ya'll think I should do about some rain during the last couple weeks of flowering?....


A little bit of rain is going to come through my area in a couple days...Not much, a couple tenths of an inch at most through Wednesday night into Thursday afternoon. Then the days after there will be clear skies again, with highs in the 70s and lows in the 50s, humidity during the day around 30% to 40% and 75% late at night/early morning.

So it's going to be dry and somewhat warm right after, there shouldn't be too much moisture in the air the days after.


Is it OK to let the plants get a little rain?..They'll be going for at least another 7 to 10 days...it'd be a nice rinse off for them and a little drink of rain water...But I can cover them up easily if I should do so.






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25504585 - 10/01/18 07:58 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Just shake em off afterwards, they'll be ok. Its much more of a problem for the cats in the PNW.

Fuckin caterpillars though...






That's what I was assuming, it being more of an issue up around there. Good to know though :wink: .




And :werd: about them caterpillars....

....Ever since I first spotted their damage and plucked them out of buds two or three weeks ago, I haven't really noticed any more since then until today....

...today I did find another small spot of damage (the area sorta dries out/rots a bit) along the lower portion of a cola on my Tangieland. I cut out the dead spot but didn't find any cat or worm in there, so it's probably still up in the cola somewhere or potentially on its way to death if there is still some BT on the plant.

I actually did find one dead caterpillar on my Slymer last week, a sign that the BT is doing something....They seem to love the Tangieland the most, the Slymer somewhat....I found only one on my cherry cookies...and no signs of them at all on my south fork kush.

So far over all they haven't been too big of an issue for me with just my few plants, but they did gobble up and shit in the heart of the best cola on my Slymer :mad2: ...and I did have to cut out about 1/2 of one of my colas on the Tangieland.




I cut down my Slymer two nights ago and my South Fork last night....I have them hanging up in a shed . I'm really hoping the dry and cure goes well because they're both super chunky and chock full of resinous terpy goodness. I'm very satisfied & happy with how they turned out for my first time growing the plant. (at least the grow aspect/at the point of harvest, I know the job isn't done until it's cured proper) .







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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #25512015 - 10/04/18 02:22 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I had a few caterpillar/inch worm type things eat some of my crop.....I think I'm just going to make bubble or iso hash out of the other 10%.






I was wondering about that, if you encountered any issues with cats/worms or other critters on your plants during this grow?




I really want to make some bubble out of my trimmings and larfy/small buds....

...but since I only have a few relatively small plants I don't even know if I'll have enough trim and small buds to make it "worth it" to buy a set of bags and do a batch of bubble hash.



I'm assuming I'll end up with around a pound of herb at the most in total with my 4 plants. I really don't know though :shrug: . I have no idea how much herb I'll end up with. Even looking at all the branches/colas hanging up from my two harvested plants, I really can't visualize or guess how much weed is there but I'm assuming around 4 ounces per plant :shrug: (?)....With the bud on branches, and it being my first time growing, it's really hard for me to visualize and estimate how much is actually there......Since I can't even guess how much bud I'll end up with, I have no idea how much trim and small buds I'll end up with.

If I only end up with an ounce or two of trim in total from all 4 of my plants, I feel like that's only maybe a couple grams of bubble hash at the most....I don't feel buying a set of bubble bags and doing the work is even worth that......but I do loooove me some bubble hash.

I was considering doing a quick wash ISO-hash instead....but I'd much rather have bubble.

I was also thinking about buying a set of bubble bags regardless...because even if I don't end up with enough trim from my own plants do make some bubble, it is the season where trim can be found for sell for cheap so I could always try to buy some trim from someone else to make some bubble.




If I end up with not enough trim/small buds to do a batch of bubble hash I'm just going to put it all into some coconut oil for edibles....And if I do make some hash, a portion of it will be going into edibles also.

I'm really looking forward to making and eating some potent edibles :grin: ....I don't do edibles all that often and when I do it's usually a mild to moderate dose....I plan on turning into a stone for a day :yesnod: :smirk: .






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Crispy224]
    #25522228 - 10/08/18 03:19 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I started to trim some of my Slymer last night, and got to smoke some of my own herb for the first time :awesome: . And finally got to try some "finger hash" . I know it's nothing special, but I've wanted to try "charas" for a long time now. Tasted pretty bomb.


This was also my first time "trimming" weed....It takes soooo much longer than I assumed lol. I knew it can be a long tedious process, but sheesh.

I'm not even using scissors, just my fingers....It's much easier & quicker for me to pluck off the sugar leafs and manicure the buds with my fingers versus scissors.





The buds dried out a bit more than I would have liked before jarring/curing. They're not totally crispy, but feel dryer then I think they're supposed to be? They were hanging up for 7 days in a shed, I didn't think they were going to be dry this quickly, especially with a couple days of rain/high humidity (I was hoping for at least a 10 day dry)...The branches that the buds are on still have a "bend" to them, but some of the stems connecting the buds to the branches snap. I have the buds in jars now, I'm curious to see if they "sweat" at all. I feel there isn't enough moisture left in them to sweat but I'll see later today....and isn't this "sweating" process pretty crucial when it comes to curing?


The buds still smell pretty damn good (the grassy-hay smell from the first several days of drying is mostly gone), and the smoke was pretty smooth, but the taste was not there...The taste was still a little green & not all that pleasant.


Question for anyone that's done this a few times....Can I expect the taste to improve over the next several weeks/months?...Or if the herb was dried a bit too quickly will the taste never improve over time?...I hope it does..because the buds are beautiful, sticky as fuck, and smell lovely.

My understanding is.......The chlorophyll is the main culprit for this off-taste, and it takes time for it to break down, but if the herb is dried out too quickly then the chlorophyll doesn't break down in time and basically leaves the herb with a permanent funky taste..?....Is that how it goes?

If so I need to find a way to dramatically slow down my dry time, because I don't want my Tangieland and Frosted Cherry cookies turning out the same way, looking & smelling amazing but tasting like crap.


The finger hash from the Slymer tasted good :yesnod: ....the flower, not so much.







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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #25522527 - 10/08/18 05:03 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I think your bud is going to turn out ok Openmind. 7 days sounds good depending on your conditions. Unless it was dried extremely fast it will get much better with time.

I'm making some bubble with my frozen caterpillar buds!






I just smoked a prime nug of the Slymer through a bong and did it solar style (using a magnifying glass instead of a lighter :cool: lol)...

...the taste is actually not that bad. Reading my last post again I sorta made it sound like it was tasting like crap. It's not bad, it just isn't as "juicy" as the smell and has just a tinge of woody/grassy after-taste. That first toke with the magnifying glass was actually pretty tasty, but I can see how it can improve.

I think it'll improve a bit with time too.



Right on about the bubble!....

....Now that I sorta have an idea of how much sugar trim, small buds, and prime buds that I'll get from a plant I think I'll end up getting a set of bags. This Slymer trim is incredibly frosted & greasy/oily.

I'm still not sure how much weight I got, I still have a little more of the Slymer to trim...I'm about to start that now actually, and then once that's done I'm moving onto trimming the SFK.


My Cherry Cookies will be coming down in 4 or 5 days, and the Tangieland still has another week+ in her I feel.





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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25522598 - 10/08/18 05:25 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

Oh yea...I found a few seeds in my Slymer too, 7 or so from probably around 3 ounces of bud. I never saw any of my plants develop hermi-flowers so I'm not sure how they got there. I gave each plant a pretty good look over in general as well as just admiring them everyday of their growth and I never spotted a hermi-flower....Either someone else in the neighborhood has some hermi plants that are blowing their load in the wind (almost every block smells like dank at one point or another around here), or one of my plants did develop a hermi-flower or two that I didn't catch.

My plants are clones though and were never really stressed out, so I wouldn't think they would turn hermi?








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Nice work man!

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Nothing like your own finger hash from plants you grew.

I think you'll be fine with the moisture level you describe. The best way to test for moisture is with your lips, from my experience. If they are too moist, just let them out flat for an hour or two and re-jar.

Taste should get better to point. If they are hayish, remember that next season and try to wait it out for a few more weeks.

To extend drying time, don't trim before hanging. I used to live in the desert and my plants would be done drying in my basement in about 4 days.... Left the fan leaves on to get that up to about a week.





Thanks dude!...

And yea...very satisfying indeed!

I'll get some pics up eventually.

I gave them a "rough" trim before drying. I took off fan leaves and roughly cut off most leaf that wasn't sugar.

I'll try leaving on more leaf with my other plants and see how that goes.


My South Fork Kush seemed to have really tight/dense buds, so when I get into trimming those later this evening I'll see how their moisture is compared to the Slymer which was a bit more "airy" in structure....So I can have a bit of a reference point for how the density/structure of the bud plays into drying time.








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OM - I can't say if your bud willrecover any flavor or not but if you can somehow keep the humidity of your shed at 50% and the temp around 65-70 your buds will dry gloriously.

Its hard to dry buds properly in this climate. I try to do it inside but it can lead to complications when everyones clothes start stinking like bud for 2 weeks. :lol:






I think it'll be alright. Especially after smoking that prime/top bud a bit ago. It was better than my initial impression from last night.

The average humidity and temp per 24 hours over the past week has been right around there I think, 50% and 70 degrees...That's average tho lol, there can be quite swing in humidity out here....it is pretty dry during the day (and the winds the other day had it super dry out, though the shed was kept closed all day). There was one day where it got a bit warm in the shed up around 80, but I have it shaded for the most part.

And yea...If I lived alone I would be drying them inside somewhere, but the stuff is too loud for that lol. Trimming inside alone stanks up the place enough lol.


I was thinking about getting a big box with strings on the inside, that'd make for a more enclose & humid environment that I could control...Next time around that's likely the route I'll go, making some dry boxes/chambers of sorts.







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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #25525265 - 10/09/18 07:03 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

To the thread.......



In regards to drying...When folks talk about the stem "bending" or "snapping"....Are they talking about the smallest stem that attaches the bud to the cola, like at the base of the bud?....Or are they talking about the "stem" than runs through the center of a cola, essentially the "branch" that the buds grow off of?

Just wondering because "stem" can mean different parts depending who you ask lol, or depending on what portion of the plant it's in reference to...If someone is holding a cola in their hand and it's intact, then they're holding it by "the stem", the part running through the center of the cola would be the stem (but is essentially a branch)...but if you pluck a bud off the cola, then the base of the bud is the stem....


So what part should I be checking for the bend or snap?...the stem that runs through the bud, or the stem that runs through the cola?...Silly question, but :shrug: ....



When I started to trim my buds the other day the main stem of the colas still had some bend to them...but some of the "stems" that attached the buds to the cola were already dry to the point where some of them snapped off easily.






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #25540107 - 10/15/18 06:18 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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I guess I didn't let my Gelato dry enough and it is smelling sour. I moved it from jars back to a paper bag......

....The other strains have been curing in jars for a few days and are smelling alright, but not great yet. I hope everybody else is having good cures.






I just saw this post of yours...


I was actually going to ask...I was wondering how drying in paper bags was going for you?...That is the route you took wasn't it?..Drying in brown paper bags? Hope it turns out alright for ya.

Just wondering because it's something I was considering doing....Not putting the buds directly into bags, but after 3 days or so I was thinking about moving the colas into some paper bags to slow down the dry process. It's pretty dry around my area, 11% humidity outside right now, and the average humidity per 24 hours for the next week is going to be around 40% (but down around 20% through most of the day).





The Slymer and South Fork Kush I harvested at the beginning of this month dried quicker and more so than I would have liked (at 7 days)...So I'm trying to do things a bit differently with my frosted cherry cookies and tangieland, aiming for a slower dry and putting them into the "cure" with a bit more moisture intact.

I harvested my FCC early this morning before sunrise...What I did different this time to try to slow the dry....I only removed the big fan leaves and left all other leaf intact this time (versus last time I removed fan leaves and roughly trimmed a portion of the leaf that wasn't sugar)...I hung up the colas up in larger portions/branches than last time...And I have them hanging closer together on the line.

.....After 3 or 4 days of hanging I might move them into paper bags for another 3 or 4 days, then trim, then into jars for curing....Or just take them off the line and into jars sooner than I did last time.





By the way...to the thread in general, on the topic of curing.....Some of my lasts posts around the time I had trimmed my Slymer, I mentioned the taste and smell just wasn't as "juicy" and rich as I thought it should be (that was as of the day I trimmed it, dry)...It's already improved for me quite a bit over just this past week. I am happy with it :yesnod: ....It's dry proper but still has a greasy/sticky feel when breaking it apart...In the jar it's developing a bit more of a musky almost mild-cheese like note, but overall it still has that lime-lemon funk going on. It has a really smooth toke for how oily/thick the smoke is, I blow fat clouds with out any harshness. It burns into a clean light grey/white colored ash.

My South Fork Kush...I'm not impressed with how it turned out after drying, at all. A good portion of it over dried a bit...but in general the vast majority of the buds turned out rather airy and crispy and just really "meh", lookin' all schwag like to my eyes. They looked super fire and tight/dense on the plant, I was expecting it to turn out to be some super gassy fat dense sticky buds....but after drying it's some mediocre smoke at best IMO. Perhaps I should have pruned the plant more so all the energy was going only into the tops because only the very very tip top of the colas are worth smoking. Even when I pull my biggest & best buds from the tops of the plant out of the jar, I find myself only wanting to smoke the tips of the nugs and putting the rest into my larf jar lol...It's alright, just not as impressive as it looked on the plant and the impressions I had. If more of the harvested bud was the same quality as the tips of the tops,  I'd be a lot more happy with it...It still has a decent bit of trichomes and has a pretty good smell (gassy, earthy, chemmy, slight lemon), and the high is pretty nice, the buds are just kinda airy/crispy and schwaggy looking to me and don't have the best smoke/taste unless you're smoking the very tip of the cola.....So practically my entire harvest from that plant will be going into making hash & edibles....I think it'll make some pretty decent hash ...The finger hash and kif I got from it after trimming was good.

I also found a couple dozen or so seeds in that plant :confused: ...Only thing I can think of is one of my plants pushed out some "bananas", but I never spotted any at any point on any of my plants :shrug: (tho I well could have missed em' )...There's a few swollen calyxs on my TL and FCC that I'm assuming have seed in em' too :ifyoucanawe: . I just wish I knew where the pollen was coming from.






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25552647 - 10/20/18 01:21 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Thats exactly what has happened in California. The shit in stores is overpriced garbage.

Black market is doing fine. :thumbup:






A lot of it is waaay overpriced :yesnod:, then multiple layers of tax (state, county, city) piled on top of it, the tax is basically 30% :crazy: ....

....but I have been finding what I consider to be good deals from one particular weed store in my area (seems prices can vary drastically from one store to another)....I've been getting 8ths of organic outdoor for $11 to $16, after taxes that's $15 to $20, it's some high quality herb IMO (but at a different store across town, that same 8th from the same farm/grower/brand is $40 before tax, I don't understand how or why prices are so different from store to store...more than double or triple the price.).


But yea...the first time I went to buy "legal weed" from an actual store several months ago I was stunned at how ridiculous the majority of the prices were, BEFORE the tax...

The few times I've gone to an actual weed-store I do manage to find deals....most of what's in those stores are super overpriced though, then the huge chunk of tax on top of it all just makes it ridiculous.







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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #25558805 - 10/22/18 07:20 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

To those that have done this a few times...or anyone who knows a few things....


With certain strains/genetics.....do trichomes just never turn amber? Or some do but very little? Or in general does it take a really long time for buds to develop amber trichomes?


My Tangieland is at around 80 days/11 weeks as of today (outdoors)...It's looking ripe to my eyes but still only has about maybe 3% amber trichomes at most.

About 85% to 90% of the pistils have turned brown/orange, though it does seem to keep pushing out new pistils. The buds seem to be "foxtailing" just a little bit, nothing extreme, just some points where the calyxs are stacking and getting a bit pointy/popping out. It looks ready for picking, but if I wanted to let it go until there's 10% to 15% amber trichs it seems like I'd have to let it go for at least another 3 to 4 weeks.


None of my other plants seemed to produce much amber trichomes either...or at the rate at which they were, it seems like I'd wouldn't be harvesting them until well into November even though they were already plenty ripe looking to me eyes around the beginning of this month (besides the relatively small amount of amber trichs). They all had around 5% or less amber trichs.





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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: cosmofish]
    #25563727 - 10/24/18 03:00 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Sounds like the last bit of elongation. If you're looking out at the end for amber degradation try checking further in also try looking at some of the smaller leaf for signs as they'll show first. Degradation mostly depends on environmental influences and maturation. Nutrients and hormones are another influence, the more cytokinins you feed the longer cells divide...... I cut when most bracts are full except for just a few at the end of the flowers, Or if all the resin glands are full and white ..Stigmas will continue coming out as long as conditions are favorable...food, water, light,soil temp...






Thanks for your words on that dudes.....


And yea...I too felt the plant was going through a last spurt of "elongation" and swelling & filling out.

I have scoped out the sugar leaf and they do tend to have a bit more amber trichs than the buds themselves, I do notice amber on some of the sugar leaf...probably around 10% amber on the sugar leaf, some portions have more, some less....but the buds themselves are still mostly just milky with a lone amber trich here & there, like I mentioned around 3% or so.

The weather over the past 3 or 4 weeks has been lovely...highs around 70 to 80, and lows around 45 to 55, a couple days of light rain earlier this month but other than that nothing but sunshine.



I ended up harvesting that Tangieland early this morning before sunrise...it was a cold damp morning around 42 degrees, it was the coldest and most moist morning I've felt since last spring..... I was intending on cutting er' down almost a week ago but I'm glad I ended up letting it go a bit longer....I think this TL might turn out to be the most impressive smoke I grew this year, as far as aroma/taste, aesthetic, and yield. It wasn't looking like anything special until these last two or three weeks of flowering, then it swelled up super fat, took on a whole other level of frosty-ness, started to turn some pretty colors, and it's essence/aroma seemed to become a bit more complex and "mature".









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Yeah I haven't done that whole process for a few years but I remember going through a whole lot of TV series and music while trimming. Kind of fun for like 10 minutes and then it starts getting kind of tedious. Always worth the end result though





This year was my first time growing, and my first time trimming....


I always knew trimming was a tedious process, but really didn't think it was going to take as long as it did with the first two plants I harvested lol.

....It's not a task I look forward to doing, but in some ways I do sorta enjoy it to an extent lol. It's something that's very meditative and relaxing for me, though after 3 hours or so I do start to become tired of it lol.

As I'm trimming I just look forward to all the fresh finger hash and kif I get to toke up on after :grin: .




Do any of you guys trim with your fingers instead of using snips/scissors?...I find I can trim much quicker with my fingers...Maybe I don't have the proper technique down with scissors, or maybe because I don't have nice snips/scissors, or maybe my buds were a little extra dry so finger trimming is easier :shrug: ....Is this something that some people do? I always hear folks using snips/scissors but by finger is much quicker and easier for me....and I love rolling/pulling the hash off my finger tips :drooling: .






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #25584541 - 11/01/18 02:30 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

So since the chit chat is about the sex/genetics of plants and hermis, etc etc...



All 4 of my plants ended up with some seed, they weren't chock full of seed but almost every cola from all of my plants had some seed in em' somewhere. At least 50% of the seed I found/plucked out during trimming wasn't fully developed, but the rest seem to be nice & ripe. I also noticed that most of the seed I did pluck out seemed to be located along the lower portion of the plant, more so within the larfy/popcorn buds, but some of the tops/prime buds also had a seed here & there.


I'm assuming they pushed out some bananas that I never saw :shrug: ....I don't know how else they would have got knocked up...I spent at least an hour or two every day of the grow looking over each of my plants and I never once spotted a banana on them. I've seen many pics and video of nanners, but when looking over my plants each day not one ever caught my eye. Even when using my scopes/eye loupe, I never once saw a single nanner anywhere.

The plants were clones...So is this purely a genetic thing? Some strains/genetics just push out nanners during flowering? I don't feel like my plants were ever stressed...It gets pretty hot around here during the growing season but my plants never appeared like they were stressed out from the heat besides just a few days where their leaves would taco/fold up a little bit during the peak heat of the day.

I'd love to have some plants/genetics that don't push out nanners.




And do I understand this correctly?....Since the female plants pollinated themselves....The seeds from my plants will be all female, but the plants grown from those seeds will have a tendency/genetics to push out nanners in late flower and/or if stressed...?....


When a plant becomes pollinated and starts to develop seed....does it no longer dedicate it's energy towards resin/cannabinoid/terp production?






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Nimph] * 1
    #25779331 - 01/30/19 02:25 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I haven't been on the shroomery lately...In fact, this is the first time I've been away from here for this long since I first started to post around here 10+ years ago....I think my last posts in this thread was back around October when I was just taking down my last two plants.

I've been meaning to post pics of my plants and the bud from last summers grow, but all the pics are on a computer that's not working now.





Since I was here last....My buds have cured up nicely :yesnod: . I recall I was initially not all that impressed with how the South Fork Kush turned out, but after curing over the past 2 to 3 months it's actually some pretty damn fine smoke :yesnod: . This being my first grow I wasn't sure how much of a change/improvement a cure can do to buds compared to how they are when they've just finished hanging/drying. The aroma of the SFK has changed a bit and has taken on a subtle floral aroma that I like a lot. The texture of the bud is nice too, it has a soft feel when pulling the buds apart (but not really overly moist) and the buds are very oily & greasy. This is a strain I would consider growing again. It had no issues with caterpillars or rot or anything. Large resinous buds.

The Tangieland turned out pretty good....The main colas were super duper dense & chunky and pretty resinous. But the caterpillars loved this plant and I lost a portion of my prime buds to caterpillars and rot/mold on the inside of the buds. It was lame, breaking up some of my biggest & prettiest buds only to find mold/rot on the inside all the way up the entire cola. I'm not a big fan of this plants aroma either. This strain can put out some dank, but it's not a strain I enjoyed much and the caterpillars loved it. This is not a strain I will grow again.

The Frosted Cherry Cookies...Even after curing, I'm still not impressed by this one at all. The buds weren't very "frosted" and had the least trichomes of the 4 strains I grew. Its aroma is very mild and shallow/not complex, almost non existent really, just a very mild & plain sweet/herb smell...Certainly no cherries or cookies or anything scrumptious in its essence. Lots of really big fat dense nugs, but not great quality at all IMO, not a lot of trichomes/resin. I will never grow this strain again.

The Slymer...Oh boy!....The buds I got from the Slymer I grew are not only the absolute best looking outdoor buds I've EVER seen, but also some of the best herb I've seen in general, if I didn't know I would never guess this stuff is "outdoor". Lots & lots of resin...Even the larfiest smallest buds on the lowest part of the plant that never got much sunlight were totally frosted white in sticky resin. This was the dankest herb out of the 4 strains I grew and some of the dankest herb I've seen in a while in general. Since it has been curing its become even more fire. The aroma has turned sweeter and more "creamy", its aroma reminds me of a "Key lime pie" sort of thing. Soooo so so sticky, the buds are nothing but resin....The smoke is all sorts of thick & oily but not harsh at all. Gives a pretty clear & mellow balanced high, not uppity/racey and not stoney/sleepy...I will certainly grow this strain again some day and this is a strain I do recommend growing.






I picked up some seeds for the upcoming grow season...I got 6 seeds of "Lemon Wookie Glue" from equilibrium genetics, I'm stoked on this strain and growing from seed for my first time. I'm going to try to get some other seeds/strains from equilibrium genetics as well.






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    #25784181 - 02/01/19 04:04 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Now that I've grown my own herb, entirely organic with live soil and under the sunshine, knowing what I put into it and the quality that turned out...The slymer I grew is hands down some of the best herb I've ever seen & felt between my fingers, regardless of indoor or outdoor.....

....it really makes me wonder about some of the herb I've smoked over the years and what the fuck some other growers are doing :crazy: . In regards to possible pesticides/sprays used, salty fertilizers, poor flush/dry/cure, etc etc etc....Sure there is lots of quality/dank around my area (nor-cal), but I have certainly come across some herb over the years that was obviously not flushed the best, or dried cured well, or wasn't really grown all that well. Having a harsh smoke, or crackles when smoked, or doesn't burn into a clean/fluffy ash, etc etc etc.






My basic "method" of growing last summer....

-20 gallon fabric pots

-Roots Organic Original soil (Perlite, Coco Fiber, Peat Moss, Composted Forest Material, Pumice, Worm Castings, Bat Guano, Soybean Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Fish Bone Meal, Kelp Meal, and Greensand)

-A small amount of DR. Earth 5-5-2 blended into soil before planting (Feather Meal, Fish Bone Meal, Kelp Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Potassium Sulfate, Seaweed Extract, mycorrhizae/probiotics).

-I used a carbon filter for city tap water, I would fill up a 5 gallon bucket and let it sit out for at least a day or two before using it.

-I got into a pattern of watering every other day (even through peak summer, 100+ temps, they only needed watering every 2 days). The soil was pretty airy and breathed nicely but also seemed to retain moisture really well, even with the fabric pots. It being my first grow, I figured I would be watering every day, possibly multiple times, but that was not the case.

-Once a week I would give them some EWC tea with molasses

-Once a week I would give them some tea made from the DR. Earth

-Once to twice a week I would give them a simple foliar spray with aloe



-Closer to flowering I started to top dress with Dr. Earth 3-9-4 (Fish Bone Meal, Feather Meal, Potassium Sulfate, Alfalfa Meal, Kelp Meal, Seaweed Extract, micronized humic acids)

-During flowering I also used DR. Earth 3-9-4 in tea once a week and would use the remaining solids to top dress the soil.

-I used a small amount of magnesium-sulfate in soil-tea and foliar-spray a couple times in the middle of flowering.

-I used small amounts of spinosad and BT a few times in the early to middle phases of flowering.

-During the last 2 to 3 weeks of flowering the soil & plants received nothing but water, this was not done as a "flush" since I was growing organically. I was just simply watering them.



-I harvested the plants late night/early AM, between 10pm and 4am.

-I removed fan leaves when harvesting but left all other leaf intact.

-The colas/branches were hung up on string in a shed and left to dry for 5 to 6 days

-Trimmed after drying for 5 to 6 days, buds placed in jars and burped once to twice a day for a week. After that first week they were "burped" at different times just depending how they felt.









For this up coming grow season.....My plan is to re-use the soil from last year, but I'm going to have two more pots this year and larger in size so I'm going to need more soil either way....So I intend on mixing last years soil up with several new bags of fresh roots-original soil, as well as adding some amendments, some meals and guano and other goodness, specifics of which I'll likely go into in a different post....I actually plan on getting my soil blended up and set in pots sometime before this month is over.




...just a random ramble, thinking about the upcoming grow, can't believe it's damn near here already.





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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25790934 - 02/04/19 03:30 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Nothing beats homegrown.





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Problem is...Now I don't ever want to go a year with out growing my own herb :lol: .

I want to move away & out of the house/town I currently live in sometime soon, but finding a place to rent where the landlords won't care about growing in the backyard and/or having a backyard that receives lots of sun all day isn't always easy to find.

The only thing I like about where I live now is the somewhat big backyard that's nothing but earth/dirt and receives nothing but sunshine from damn near sunrise to sunset. So I can have a vegetable/food garden and still have plenty of room for my plants....and our "landlord" is a family member that doesn't mind that I'm growing weed in the backyard. Having a decent sized backyard with nothing but dirt that receives lots of sunshine all day and a landlord that doesn't mind a few plants seems like it'd be some tough criteria to find lol.







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Glad you're stoked on your herbs OM. Can't say I've ever tried Slymer…

I was very disappointed with Magash's genetics to be honest. I have some way better stuff in line for this season, including some gear from Equilibrium as well.

I think I will be growing my herb in a different location this season so I will likely be starting from scratch. Depending on the location I would like to blend the local soil with amendments if possible. If I have to buy soil I will likely go with Pride Lands from Greengro.

I'm finally closing the loop in my veggie garden. Layered it with composted horse manure, plant compost, leaves from my fruit/birch trees, some grass clippings and some straw on top, letting it sit until spring. My boxes have a decent worm population already so they should be doing work. Will likely do a soil test once we get closer to spring. The goal is to eventually grow cannabis the same way, with little to no outside inputs.


I have been practicing pressing/rolling my bubble hash into "temple balls". It actually improves the quality more than I expected.





Yea I'm pretty happy with my first grow. Now that I kinda know what to expect, I plan on improving this time around.

I had never tried Slymer before I grew it...Slymer is a specific pheno/clone of the strain "Chernobyl", which is [(Trainwreck x Trinity) X Jack The Ripper]  . "The Golden Ticket" is another specific pheno/clone of Chernobyl .

Some really greasy & sticky stuff :yesnod: .


Right on about closing that "loop" and getting a compost process going....I intend on getting a proper compost heap going this year, just using grass & trimmings from around the yard/garden as well as veg/green scraps from the kitchen.


What strain(s) from equilibrium do you have? I picked up some "Lemon Wookie Glue"...But I would also like to get  "Orange M-con" [(LA Confidential x Heirloom Malawi) x African Orange], or Orange Romulawi [(Romulan x Heirloom Malawi) ♀ x African Orange], or one of their CBD strains....I'm not aware of/haven't looked into all that many breeders, but Equilibrium genetics is one of the few that has caught my eye & interest.

....and it just so happens that their seed is available locally from a couple weed stores in the area :awesome: .








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What you described sounds like charas lizard. I supposed that might be what true temple balls are...

Anyway, I use Frenchy Cannoli's method. First I make bubble hash (have been going 73-159u, only because I don't have a 45 bag at the moment), then of course dry it, then I fill a glass bottle with hot water and let it sit on the hash, slowly adding pressure and pressing it out for about 30 minutes, essentially decarboxylating the hash. Once the texture is right I roll it into a nice shiny ball.

I did a wash yesterday, maybe I will take photos of the rolling process...





As I was reading that post I was thinking that's basically charas, but yea that's probably how "true" temple balls are done the OG way.



About pressing bubble hash, this is something I was going to bring up in the thread even before your mention about hashish.....So you prefer to have your bubble pressed?

Reading about bubble hash online, it seems like most hash makers/smokers prefer to leave their hash loose & unpressed...?...Claiming that once the trichomes are ruptured from being pressed that this degrades the quality, and that exposing the hash to any heat also degrades the quality. I was actually surprised, at first, that so many folks much prefer to leave their bubble unpressed.

I can see both sides to it...Leaving hash loose/not pressed seems to me like it would only expose the hash to more surface area causing it to loose its "essence" and over-all quality quicker than it would if it was pressed.

But I also can see the argument against exposing it to heat and pressure....but then I can see some heat & pressure being a catalyst causing the hashish to "cure" and change slightly overtime.

I guess it just all comes down to personal preference. When I get around to running more trim into hash I'll probably do a little bit of both to see what differences I note between pressed & unpressed.



I got some bubble bags as a gift for christmas :grin: ...So far I have only done one run with my frosted cherry cookie trim, figured I would start with my lowest quality stuff first since it was my first time making bubble....I didn't get all that much, I used probably around 2 ounces or more of trim and small buds and only got like maybe a gram or two of mediocre hash...It wasn't melty at all, some bubbled a bit when smoking but it wasn't that great IMO, not terrible but nothing special.

The quality of the FCC wasn't that great to begin with, so I'm hoping the other strains I have yield a better quality and quantity. I'm saving the Slymer for last, that should make some pretty decent hash I'd think.








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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: hummingbird]
    #25799770 - 02/08/19 04:54 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

There is a big difference between someone open blasting butane, using any random "brand"/quality of butane (I worry about other crap impurities in butane), and having a basic vac-purge set up (if at all lol)....

...versus extracts produced in an labratory with a proper closed loop system, with lab grade butane and other solvents (sometimes butane isn't the only solvent used) that's been distilled and purified, proper vacume-purge-ovens, full on proper lab equipment, tested for residual solvents, etc etc etc.




I'm very much a "natural" sorta of person (tho I hate using that word, "natural", lol, you get what I mean tho)...I love growing organically and keeping things simple and wholesome and clean and as close to the earth as possible...I thoroughly enjoy bubble hash & rosin...and when it comes down to it I really mostly prefer high quality flower more than anything...

....but!...I gotta say, cannabis extracts have come a loooong way from "shatter" and open blasting butane (but no doubt some Joe is out there doing that at this very moment lol). There are some truly beautiful full spectrum cannabis extracts these days though, which basically contains nothing but the entire spectrum of cannabinoids, terps, and other goodness with out any plant mater, no chlorophyll, no fats/lipids/waxes, etc...Just the oily essence of the plant.



I totally hear and understand where ya'll are coming from in regards to butane extracts...and I myself prefer flower and solventless extracts, but there are some absolutely phenomenal cannabis extracts out there these days. I dabble with em' occasionally, but prefer flower most of the time...I consider these types of extracts to be like the "caviar" of cannabis, they sometiems look like caviar too lol, with the way the THCa crystalizes in the soup of terps.


It's nothing but a golden sauce, usually crystals of THCa that have precipitated in a soup of terpenes...It's the epitome of cananbis extracts, leaps & bounds beyond your typical BHO "shatter" . The aroma and flavor is un-real, creamy & rich on the tongue...Provides more of a "rich" and balanced/wholesome high too, compared to most shatter which is mostly just THC.




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    #25801883 - 02/09/19 03:17 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Yeah, if the terpenes are actually from cannabis, that kind of stuff is good. Some people are doing that. I've heard that stuff called caviar or diamonds. The added terpenes in a lot of extracts are fermented from waste streams like coffee grounds and spent brewers grains and extracted with petroleum solvents. That seems kinda sketchy to me, idk.

It just seems like so much added work and waste too, when well grown og flowers are just so awesome already. Why we gotta make weed into crack?






I'm not talking about extracts that have terpenes added or re-introduced...or extracts that contain non-cannabis derived terpenes.

Those sorts of extracts are garbage IMO. A lot of those cartidges in vape pens that people get these days contain those sorts of extracts. A lot of them are made from a THC distillate (containing nothing but THC, no terps or anything else), then mixed with terpenes (which are sometimes cannabis derived, and sometimes not). They've been called the "hotdogs" of the cannabis industry lol, seems like a fitting description lol.



What I'm talking about are full spectrum extracts....Nothing is added...It's nothing but the pure essence of the plant. The extact process removes the plant matter, chlorophyll, fats/waxs/lipids, all that's left is the essence of the plant, all cannabinoids & terps. Nothing less and nothing more.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BTBzth0FCmr/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BSeKlb6DbVh/




I don't really view these full spectrum extacts like "crack", but I can't understand that view in regards to those diamonds of pure THCa....FSE contain the full composition of what's inside the trichome with out any wax/lipids/plant matter in the mix. They contain nothing else other than what's INSIDE the trichome.


I can understand viewing the act of dabbing kinda like "crack", it's just the act of vaporizing though which is technically less harmful than inahling combusted plant matter.....These extracts don't need to be dabbed though, one can use them how ever they like....I like to take solar tokes of the stuff, putting a little bit on top of a bowl of herb and using a magnifying glass to vape/smoke it :drooling: . Or it can be put into a joint, etc etc etc.



But yea...I do hear ya'll and understand where you're coming from :yesnod: .







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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: openmind]
    #25801902 - 02/09/19 03:29 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

...on the topic of starting seeds as early as possible but keeping them from going into flower during the spring time.....


I don't have any space indoors to give my seeds/plants an early head start.


I'm thinking about germinating them outdoors in a small & very basic "green house/hoop house"...Then having some CFLs over the plants that turn on for a few hours in the evening to give them a few more hours of light to prevent them from going into flower early.

Not sure when I'm going to start em'...I'm thinking sometime in April but not sure yet.

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    #25802199 - 02/09/19 06:36 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Don't use a CFL on seedlings outdoors.  It will attract a lot of attention...

These plants are so vulnerable their first weeks of life (ain't they always vulnerable).  Beer cups in one of these would be a great start.  Can start even sooner than planting day but I wouldn't risk that.

They'll get huge.  Don't need a 15lb plant for the cops to find or feds.






I'm in california, it is legal to grow here so I don't really have any worries about cops or attracting attention from the "law". The only reason I wouldn't want to attract attention is because of theives....which is a little concern for sure :yesnod: .

I'm allowed to grow 6 plants....though from what I understand, as far as the county laws where I live, the county has "banned" plants from being grown outdoors if they're not in a greenhouse/enclosed structure of sorts.

But I don't think this law is enforced much...Lots of people grow in their backyards around here. Just about my entire neighborhood smelled like weed through most of the summer & fall last year lol. I think as long as it's out of the public view (plants aren't growing over the fence line) and as long as you're not growing a bunch of plants far beyond the legal limit, and as long as no nieghbors are complaining about the smell....then there really isn't anything to worry about around here as far as getting caught up with the law.

and if so, at the worse...I think it'd just be a simple ticket/fine from the county for growing outdoors.


But yea...Last year I started some seeds in "beer cups" (just some random bag seed I had saved over the years, I started em' in terrible soil and pretty sure I over watered and none of them made it past week 2). That's probably what I'll do again thoguh, using some cups, then transplanted into 1 gallon pots or just straight into their final 20 gallon pots.







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Start at least one now, just for an experiment. I actually have 4 going now and one doesn't seem to be an autoflower so I might just let it get big and move it outside in the spring. The 4th seed is just some seed that I found in a drawer where I keep my weed. Most likely a Sour D strain that self-fertilized itself.





I was thinking about it. I don't have anywhere indoors to start plants, but in a small green house. Lately it's been getting rather cold at night again and the days are pretty damn short still.

But I do have some seed from my plants from last year (had to of been self polinated) that I was thinking about popping em' super early just to see how they do and then throwing them into a light dep so they flower quick & early...not as part of my main grow, but just as an experiment to see how & what the plants do.







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Not sure when I'm going to start em'...I'm thinking sometime in April but not sure yet.



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April is a good time, might not even need lights at that point. Be prepared to get some big ass trees if you start em that early and keep em healthy all season.
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Start at least one now, just for an experiment.




I have a bunch of volunteers popping up in my backyard in the area where I throw my washed material. They are hardy little bastards, surviving freezing temps and heavy rain/windstorms with little to no direct sunlight. I'm not going to do anything with them but I suppose if you wanted to breed some tough plants they might be useful. :shrug:






A buddy of mine has that going on in his back yard too lol, lil seedlings popping up, but more so during the spring time.

Really surprised to hear they're already popping up though, and surviving the cold temps and storms we've been having lately, especially with little to no direct sun light. Dang!







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    #25804222 - 02/10/19 05:54 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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....I am falling in love with making hash. Excited to start washing different strains this season.






How do you go about drying your hash?

Shortly put into a nutshell, what's your method of making hash?




I've only done one run so far with my FCC trim. After scooping up the hash out of the bags I placed it on a "pressing" screen, then I folded up the screen with a paper towl around it and gave it a gentle squeeze. I then tried to break up the hash into as small bits as I could and left it out to dry over night. I got such a small yeild and to me it was mediocre quality so it was all smoked kinda quickly, even before it was properly dry.

Next time around I don't plan on squeezing the hash on the screen, rather I'm going to place paper towels beneath it and let that pull the moisture out....Letting the hash air dry before I press it in any sort of way.

I was even thinking about making a drying "chamber" of sorts to try to speed up the drying process...By de-hydrating some magnesium-sulfate and placing it into a small tray/container of sorts. Then placing the pressing screen on top of the de-hydrated MgSO, with the hash on top of the pressing screen. And having it all covered/enclosed somehow. That stuff can absorb/pull quite a bit of moisture.





I know the idea behind making hash is pretty basic and there's only so many ways it can't be done lol....But the way I went about it....

-I used distilled water

-About 60/40 water/ice

-I did the washing/"work bag" in a seperate bucket.

-Gave the work bag with the herb in it a good stir with a wooden spoon for about 8 minutes

-After stiring, I let the work bag/bucket settle for 10 minutes

-Then poured the hash water from the work bucket into the bucket with the bags

-Let the hash water settle through the bags for 10 minutes or so

-Then pulled up the bags, using a spray bottle of ice water to move all the hash towards the center of the bag and then using a spoon to scoop up the hash.

-I washed off each bag with cold water immediatley and hung em up to dry.





I'm looking foward to seeing how the 3 other strains of trim/small buds I have turn out after washed....The FCC was my lowest quality stuff...I'm hoping the other strains are more melty and give a higher yield. I'm going to save my Slymer trim for last, since it's the most sugary and oily and the best quality, I'm hoping I have a things dialed in a bit once I get to that stuff.






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