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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: MeanGreen]
    #25284123 - 06/21/18 08:15 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)



One on the right row looked wilted and wimpy soon after planting in soil but one on the left looked to perk up and get sharp shortly after. Now two on left are perky and sharp and the sad one looks even sadder.

Same conditions. Same soil mix. All big healthy tops. I find it interesting it's almost like it's the plants choice on wheteher to try hard or not.

Switching to flower tonight for first time, lights out in 45 minutes :laugh:


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Humble Newcomer] * 1
    #25284544 - 06/22/18 03:55 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Here are better pics of the mutant Mango Sapphire branch & plant:
 

Note that I haven't topped this plant at all, only pinched the main stem until it cracks at every new node. I've been using this technique for a few years,  it really helps bush out a plant.


Good thing I took it out of the tent to take pics looks like it has a bit of mag deficiency I didn't catch under the leds.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: BattyKoda] * 1
    #25285429 - 06/22/18 03:20 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

My plants are a little close together, but doing well.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Psilosion]
    #25285448 - 06/22/18 03:32 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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Here are better pics of the mutant Mango Sapphire branch & plant:
 

Note that I haven't topped this plant at all, only pinched the main stem until it cracks at every new node. I've been using this technique for a few years,  it really helps bush out a plant.


Good thing I took it out of the tent to take pics looks like it has a bit of mag deficiency I didn't catch under the leds.



Intresting how it looks to be polyploid or something similar, leafs an branches everywhere.
I wonder how it´s going to turn out when bigger.

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My plants are a little close together, but doing well.




Your wheather seem to be wonderful for growing plants.
They must love that sunshine.
Nice plants.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D] * 1
    #25288823 - 06/24/18 07:37 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

Sidewinder (another Magash strain) "bleeding"


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: mmcc] * 1
    #25289989 - 06/24/18 09:26 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

This is my Blackberry Fire plant again. I'm trying to figure out when to stop feeding it. I stopped yesterday just to be safe, but how long do you guys think this has before it's ready to be harvested?



I'll try to get a better pic later in case you can't tell from this pic


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #25290047 - 06/24/18 10:05 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm guessing it's only been about a month. I've never really grown weed before so I'm not sure what signs to look for and how long it will take from that. I have some reading to do




needs more time. post another photo when you can. looking good.

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moving this to this thread. Im wondering if shade grown weed will smoke/taste different than full sun/light weed. what do you guys think?


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25292833 - 06/26/18 10:53 AM (5 years, 7 months ago)

I'm glad I didn't get my hopes up too much



In the back there's three bruce banner tops I stabbed in pots and they're perky.

These were all tops that were planted on 6/18.

Here's a pic from 6/21 that I posted saying hey the banners look perky and the others are starting to wilt.


It's neat that you could tell plant suicide in a sense, I didn't use humididomes but knowing what they're for I kept them at 50% humidity and sprayed once a day wetting the soil and foliar watering. 24hr cfl light.

Ant tips on getting more to attempt at new life next time? I monitored soil moisture with the knuckle deep finger check. All conditions were good.

Is this where rooting hormone comes in? I've heard of it ans have no clue what it's for.

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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: MeanGreen]
    #25298805 - 06/29/18 11:33 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

Couple notes...

If using municipal water, its good to filter it. I use one of these.


And don't underestimate the power of mulch, especially outside. Not only will you preserve water, but it will allow mycelium to thrive on the surface of the soil that would otherwise be dry. Rice hulls work great for pots. 


Tops...


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25305333 - 07/02/18 08:38 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

They're definitely on the lime green side of things which i havent seen in a long time, unless on plants im not feeding outdoors.

These are picked off the same plants, two sets of leaves from two different mother plants I havent been taking much care of nor have nutes for, found some nitrogen deficient leaves and compared them to healthy leaves.



If I didnt give optimal nitrogen and kinda deprived it a bit I could balance her out to a nice lime green color. All strains of marijuana I've grown for the past many years have been staying darker greens. Even those darks are light from not really being fed.

The succulents behind them are completely yellow in your pic.
https://files.shroomery.org/files/18-26/029272512-20180629_100728.jpg


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: El Torcho]
    #25305871 - 07/03/18 06:07 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

This thimbleberry is going down into some clay/soil, and living off mostly rainwater.


With a little bit more nitrogen given to them the entire plant would look almost like the middle leaf, which is around where those outdoor plants look about to be at.

Ph if not proper/stable could also be causing nitrogen problems and the plant to not reach its color. Rainwater can also leech/dilute a more concentrated soil.

I've had almost no weed of many strains even look green, they all get so dark they look almost blue when healthy, im mostly looking under leds. Right now they look green and yellow mostly, and its the unhealthy parts that even look green.

I wouldnt even bother with soil unless putting it in the ground directly to be lazy with the plant. If I were going to take care of the plant outdoors I'd do some kind of dwc or something. Liquid nute feeding soil compared to hydro is two different ballfields (how many gallons to water a large 15 gallon pot?). Soil just has way too much bullshit you cannot control and keep optimal at all times, especially outdoors.

Growth outside is also complete shit until the plant has overgrown your indoor setup. Smaller plants transplanted outside underperform in comparison until they get very large. The only reason i would grow outside is for quantity, as I highly doubt it can match quality using the same methods.

But I don't see HPS touching the current top leds, and if you disagree with that you may need to grow against my leds, of which I just blew the majority of them storing thermal foam ontop of the tent blocking and destroying the fan. Then once we agree on this maybe we can talk about hydro and indoors vs outdoors.

i've got a lot of mixed feelings for outdoors growing, its easy to be biased indoors, I seem to be able to get better looking plants indoors but they seem to be able to grow to fullsize outdoors easier.


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[quote]sublimistri said:
id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote]

[quote]sublimistri said:
this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]


Edited by merch137 (07/03/18 07:16 AM)


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
    #25305941 - 07/03/18 07:14 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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They're definitely on the lime green side of things which i havent seen in a long time, unless on plants im not feeding outdoors.

These are picked off the same plants, two sets of leaves from two different mother plants I havent been taking much care of nor have nutes for, found some nitrogen deficient leaves and compared them to healthy leaves.



If I didnt give optimal nitrogen and kinda deprived it a bit I could balance her out to a nice lime green color. All strains of marijuana I've grown for the past many years have been staying darker greens. Even those darks are light from not really being fed.

The succulents behind them are completely yellow in your pic.
https://files.shroomery.org/files/18-26/029272512-20180629_100728.jpg




No, theyre not. Take what you want from that picture my plants are not lime green. If your plants are darker than that you are feeding too much nitrogen.

Yes the jade is yellow. Jade plants dont like full sun when its 110 degrees out. Its also close to 10 years old. Not sure why that is relevant to cannabis in any way.

Also, that "healthy" leaf in your photo is definitely not any darker than my plants.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25305946 - 07/03/18 07:18 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

What healthy leaves actually look like. Only thing you see here is slight heat stress.



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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25305950 - 07/03/18 07:24 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

It looks a bit darker than my first glance, however I still suspect even the healthiest of leaf to look about like this


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[quote]sublimistri said:
id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote]

[quote]sublimistri said:
this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137] * 1
    #25305954 - 07/03/18 07:28 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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This thimbleberry is going down into some clay/soil, and living off mostly rainwater.


With a little bit more nitrogen given to them the entire plant would look almost like the middle leaf, which is around where those outdoor plants look about to be at.

Ph if not proper/stable could also be causing nitrogen problems and the plant to not reach its color. Rainwater can also leech/dilute a more concentrated soil.

I've had almost no weed of many strains even look green, they all get so dark they look almost blue when healthy, im mostly looking under leds. Right now they look green and yellow mostly, and its the unhealthy parts that even look green.

I wouldnt even bother with soil unless putting it in the ground directly to be lazy with the plant. If I were going to take care of the plant outdoors I'd do some kind of dwc or something. Liquid nute feeding soil compared to hydro is two different ballfields (how many gallons to water a large 15 gallon pot?). Soil just has way too much bullshit you cannot control and keep optimal at all times, especially outdoors.

Growth outside is also complete shit until the plant has overgrown your indoor setup. Smaller plants transplanted outside underperform in comparison until they get very large. The only reason i would grow outside is for quantity, as I highly doubt it can match quality using the same methods.

But I don't see HPS touching the current top leds, and if you disagree with that you may need to grow against my leds, of which I just blew the majority of them storing thermal foam ontop of the tent blocking and destroying the fan. Then once we agree on this maybe we can talk about hydro and indoors vs outdoors.

i've got a lot of mixed feelings for outdoors growing, its easy to be biased indoors, I seem to be able to get better looking plants indoors but they seem to be able to grow to fullsize outdoors easier.






So much misinformation :facepalm:


I personally never have pH problems. Good soil acts as a buffer. Its pretty easy to keep it optimal too, not sure what "bullshit" you're talking about.

Outdoor is not only for quantity. Its also for people who like their plants to reach their full potential. Plants under the sun have a more complete terpene profile, thats a fact.


One more time, nitrogen overdose IS REAL.

And lets address these incomplete liquid butes people are recommending. These bottles that read "12-0-0" or "0-12-4" or whatever are the ones causing deficiencies. Micronutrients aside, only feeding nitrogen during veg is one of the biggest mistakes of the weed game. Plants need ALL nutrients at ALL parts of growth.

I still dont have a single yellow leaf and I wont all season. People who have plants losing leaves and changing colors during flower are the ones with deficiencies.


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25305976 - 07/03/18 07:50 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm way behind? But you believe that a little rain water will wash away all the nitrogen? :lol: ok dude.

Go read some of Jeff Lowenfels books and maybe you will understand soil a little better.

"After I learned the reason why my [chemical] fertilizers weren't effective in the proper way, I was like a person that recieved a new life." - Justus von Liebig





I strongly believe you were just trying to say these were over nitrogened?


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id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote]

[quote]sublimistri said:
this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
    #25306065 - 07/03/18 08:45 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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Lets not judge outdoor cannabis based on some boof you got in Vermont though.




I hate to do it, but intuition tells me the sun won't give the results of the leds.


Below the first month in soil was nothing compared to what they did in peat moss, every plant I tried after this followed suite. Since then I've tried various self made soilless mixtures to alter performance.
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Monday, July 30 2007
Cuttings received and potted here they are today


8/4/06

Some seem to be growing fast, seems like all thier roots are getting used to the soil and the plants are getting used to being outside in florida.


8/23/07


08/29/07
Today I bought some peat moss and it had a recipe on soil for succulents 1 part perlite, 2 parts verm, 1 part peat moss. I transferred all my kanna cuttings to this pot since they have very small root systems and walmart ran out of pots.:crankey:


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[quote]sublimistri said:
id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote]

[quote]sublimistri said:
this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
    #25306073 - 07/03/18 08:52 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

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...wait, this thread is about succulents? Well fuck me, I'm in the wrong place.





Every single plant I tried followed suite.

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every plant I tried after this followed suite. Since then I've tried various self made soilless mixtures to alter performance.




This seems to be one of the only images I can find of multiple plants





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[quote]sublimistri said:
id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote]

[quote]sublimistri said:
this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D] * 1
    #25306115 - 07/03/18 09:12 AM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I think the florida soil was in bottom middle as well as up one and to the left, possibly all three bottoms if I ran out of mixture


Theres sand in the bottom parts of this image where grass cleared, I found/used some dirt.

I also tried sand, which makes the soil compact, which is what I try to do the opposite of with lots of perlite, one of the things anyways.


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[quote]sublimistri said:
id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote]

[quote]sublimistri said:
this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]


Edited by merch137 (07/03/18 10:00 AM)


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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Lophosaurus] * 2
    #25306594 - 07/03/18 02:47 PM (5 years, 6 months ago)

I don't mind a little color in my girls, I like the fall look. 








These were taken down a little while back. All my ladies are grown indoors in recycled organic soil, the base of which is now 7 or 8 years old. Things like kelp, alfalfa, crab meal, gypsum, fishone meal, neem, rock dusts, etc.

Well made AACT will do wonders, so do seed sprout teas. Aloe and yucca extracts and some humic and fulvic acids.

I do occasionally run into issues here and there, but when it goes right...it goes sooo right. Never that generic nutrient line taste or smell in any strain. I'd rather have an ounce of top shelf than a pound of commercial.


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