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Feroxx
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25307836 - 07/04/18 08:45 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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for salycilic acid you can just use aspirin, no need to grow salix babylonica
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Lipa Kreepa
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Feroxx]
#25307882 - 07/04/18 09:12 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, but it looks like tneres more going on in aloe than that one chemical component. Plus aloe is an absolute staple for me. I have had some truly menacing burns and i work at a restaurant.... so burns follow me and my crowd plus its a great air purifyer and probably one of the easiest plants to have in a garden. Plus iTs organic and free! 
thanks ran-d!
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Feroxx]
#25307916 - 07/04/18 09:40 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Feroxx said: for salycilic acid you can just use aspirin, no need to grow salix babylonica
Thanks for pointing out that willow is also a good source.
Also, its worth mentioning again that Horsetails (Equisetum) are great for foliar for anyone that has access to them. They contain silica and also aid in microbial populations. Just boil water, let it cool for 5 minutes, then steep the horsetail overnight.
This info is from people with much more experience than myself.
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Feroxx
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25308000 - 07/04/18 10:43 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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black beans can be used for making rooting liquid as well
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merch137
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: El Torcho]
#25308079 - 07/04/18 11:35 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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El Torcho said: I know when I think of killer bud, I always think of ....... Vermont.

I damn sure don't think of california. Nor do I think of someone growing trash plants in completely trash soil that is having negative impacts if anything on the plants in the corner of his house named el torcho.
I only think of myself when this topic is mentioned because if I want it done right Its for surely got to do be done myself because people like ran-d have gone down entirely different paths and get acceptable but not optimal results and gets people like you acting like they know it all about everything. Everyone starts doing the same thing and wants to sell you the same shit results.
I found the path ran-d went down inferior and not worth continuing from the start, caught it early and changed paths, hes made that path into something workable although itll never be superior.
Anyone who backs hps over leds right now is a complete and total fuckin retard. Sell me your shit results you think is great because someone else got ok yields and you want to repeat inferiority. After 8 years of dealing with the ignorance and people sticking to hps leds are at the point hps is trash and it should be said bodly. So should soilless vs soil vs hydro, and anyone saying otherwise should be considered the one who is inexperienced or ignorant.
The lower buds off my plants would be in higher demands than the cream of most peoples crops.
-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137] 2
#25308150 - 07/04/18 12:05 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Donny, you're out of your element.
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merch137
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25308160 - 07/04/18 12:11 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have one of those kid 20x-50x microscopes and taking clones today.
If you want to compare the quality of trichomes I'll embarrass the shit out of you.
My hydro setups only one have been completely modded for no hands pumping of reseviors. The rest have to have the pumps remodded and glued down.
Absolutely nothing touches my trichomes nor are they to be distrurbed. And they have optimal vigor throughout the entire process of life.
i've had two people touch the trichomes when shown the plants and both times theyve pissed me off while you have all kinds of shit rampaging yours.
I should have more trichome density, which is also one thing I highly suspect from leds vs sun, and I'm not sure why.
-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
Edited by merch137 (07/04/18 12:41 PM)
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137] 2
#25308234 - 07/04/18 12:47 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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merch137 said:
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El Torcho said: I know when I think of killer bud, I always think of ....... Vermont.

I damn sure don't think of california. Nor do I think of someone growing trash plants in completely trash soil that is having negative impacts if anything on the plants in the corner of his house named el torcho.
I only think of myself when this topic is mentioned because if I want it done right Its for surely got to do be done myself because people like ran-d have gone down entirely different paths and get acceptable but not optimal results and gets people like you acting like they know it all about everything. Everyone starts doing the same thing and wants to sell you the same shit results.
I found the path ran-d went down inferior and not worth continuing from the start, caught it early and changed paths, hes made that path into something workable although itll never be superior.
Anyone who backs hps over leds right now is a complete and total fuckin retard. Sell me your shit results you think is great because someone else got ok yields and you want to repeat inferiority. After 8 years of dealing with the ignorance and people sticking to hps leds are at the point hps is trash and it should be said bodly. So should soilless vs soil vs hydro, and anyone saying otherwise should be considered the one who is inexperienced or ignorant.
The lower buds off my plants would be in higher demands than the cream of most peoples crops.
Stop acting like a know it all. We get it, your method is better than everybodys and all your equipment is the best and we all know it.
If hydro works for you then keep at it. It's personal preference and not an absolute way that everybody has to do it. It is possible to provide good info without putting down other people's grows.
Many people including myself also like smoking soil grown weed better than hydro.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137] 1
#25308249 - 07/04/18 12:54 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nothing touches your trichomes except that scope you just mentioned that will be touching your trichomes. 
Think about what you're arguing right now. You are trying to convince us that soil, the organic matter in which plants have evolved to live and grow in for millenia, is somehow bad for plants.
Chill out already man, we are all here to learn. This forum isnt for insults.
Time for a brew and a doobie over here. Hope everyone has the day off.
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merch137
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What you guys are now doing is making it look like Im attacking when i was being flamed you might want to go back a few fucking pages in the thread and see who was really being put down and why its being defended when its right and youre wrong.
-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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merch137
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Lophosaurus said:
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merch137 said:
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El Torcho said: I know when I think of killer bud, I always think of ....... Vermont.

I damn sure don't think of california. Nor do I think of someone growing trash plants in completely trash soil that is having negative impacts if anything on the plants in the corner of his house named el torcho.
I only think of myself when this topic is mentioned because if I want it done right Its for surely got to do be done myself because people like ran-d have gone down entirely different paths and get acceptable but not optimal results and gets people like you acting like they know it all about everything. Everyone starts doing the same thing and wants to sell you the same shit results.
I found the path ran-d went down inferior and not worth continuing from the start, caught it early and changed paths, hes made that path into something workable although itll never be superior.
Anyone who backs hps over leds right now is a complete and total fuckin retard. Sell me your shit results you think is great because someone else got ok yields and you want to repeat inferiority. After 8 years of dealing with the ignorance and people sticking to hps leds are at the point hps is trash and it should be said bodly. So should soilless vs soil vs hydro, and anyone saying otherwise should be considered the one who is inexperienced or ignorant.
The lower buds off my plants would be in higher demands than the cream of most peoples crops.
Stop acting like a know it all. We get it, your method is better than everybodys and all your equipment is the best and we all know it.
If hydro works for you then keep at it. It's personal preference and not an absolute way that everybody has to do it. It is possible to provide good info without putting down other people's grows.
Many people including myself also like smoking soil grown weed better than hydro.
So you've smoked hydro grown by someone who had no quality control, so shitty soil grows were better. I can grow some good soilless shit too, the hydro is a faster plant and produces better all around.
Theres many reasons hydro grows can be shitty. Even something as simple as nute decision, and unstable ph.
-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
#25308295 - 07/04/18 01:15 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, I've been smoking for like 25 years. I've had plenty of hydro. I buy from about 10 different dispensaries and have tried different kinds of Hydro from many different growers.
I don't think I said soil was better, just a different choice and one that I prefer when I buy weed. I'm not looking for fastest growth either so that has no appeal to me. I would rather make some awesome soil and water and not worry too much about feeding
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I've tried dispensary weed too.
I wasnt the one who grew it is my answer to that problem you had there.
I dont have to worry about feeding either I pump a resevoir once every two weeks.
If outdoors so far theyve only been fed once for one to two months and still looking fine with rainwater. For marijuana id pump it every two weeks.
-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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This is the blackberry fire plant that I was trying to decide if I should start flushing. I might be able to get better pics later. The noon sun was in the way.

This is my Sour D. The next to flower.

These are my two Gelato clones. I think I'm either going to re-pot or put them in the ground soon. Right now they are in 3 gallon containers
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Some of my lower quality long ass flowering sativa chopped very prematurely at like day 90 something, the grow that showed the flaw in not having a pump installed inside the hydroponics res.

this was like day 40ish

-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
#25308507 - 07/04/18 03:42 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anyone got opinions on trimming off the lower branches on the plant vs not doing it? Been wondering if there’s an advantage or pros to trimming them off vs not doing it
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: ItsAxe419]
#25308594 - 07/04/18 04:47 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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If your talking about lolipopping, then yes that can be benficial. IT can help eliminate pest issues and stop wasting energy on anything but the canopy. You are talking about the really low spots that will only get to be tiny little flecks of bud? Not even popcorn buds, were on the same page right?
First off, how large are your plants? If theyre in full on veg mode, and arent too short, it shouldnt be an issue at all... but if its still young, it might be best to wait a minute to not cut short its available photosynthetic pigments... those chemicals are our friends but if the canopy is already established and theyre not doing too much down there anyway, losing them wont hurt anything. Ill tell you a secret... its really hard to kill off a cannabis plant happy growing and good luck
If you really wanted to do something w them... you could always clip em and clone them to beef up the garden. Cloning cannabis is easy. Just watch out for super duper moist humidity domes. You dont need to see big droplets of humidity on the inner walls of the dome. Just a light plume. Heavy condensation beads and little air flow can cause clippings to rott and mold. Open them up daily and blow some in there
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Lipa Kreepa
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Okay... lets take a ride down imagination highway for a moment....
so say a grower has a male plant and he wants some pollen. Though he didn't have much resource on hand, only gave a little over half a fuck and wanted to basically just sit the root mass in an opaque container w just enough light nutrient solution to cover the root mass and then a small bit more. This solution would be bubbled w a stream of air, lets say all day and night. Or would this be overkill w the bubbling? Burning out motors is never good. The sol. would be changed every 4-6 days. Light would be the same as it would for any indoor setup but prbly weaker wattage since its just a male and would be flying solo dolo.
Would something simple like this work? I have no knowledge of hydroponics, only w organic soil. If not, How about using a net pot w coco resting directly above the water line?
Lets say that buying a bunch of hydroponic equiptment is not something the grower is interested in doing. So just w the regard of using ghetto fixings, such as what were mentioned above. Only for the one plant too. Nothing to grow a monster either. As small and quick as possible. One mature pollen sack w prbly please this fictional individual.
Thoughts?
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Today I started to bend three of my plants. Just simply gently bending over the main stalk roughly 45 degrees, then tying it to some bamboo. Just trying to get the lower branches to start reaching up themselves and opening up the plants a bit in general, in hopes of more hearty colas rather than one main top. Exactly like what's going on in this video here (though my plants aren't nearly as big)>>>>>
My Cherry Cookies has two main stalks/tops instead of one (when I bought the cutting it was already like this). I wasn't planning on bending over the tops of this one, rather just spreading them apart a little bit and opening up the branches in general....
.....Well when I was gently pulling apart the two tops on this plant just to look around it before I was even getting starting on tying it, I glanced down and realized that the skin of the stem had split at the "Y"/node where the main-stalk splits into two tops. I really wasn't pulling them apart all that much, I've done this before a couple times with the same amount of "force" over the past week or two just looking around the plant and getting an idea of how I was going to train/bend it.
It looks like it is mostly just the skin that split, I don't think it ruptured/exposed all that deep into the vascular tissue. The two main top stalks are still totally erect and I wouldn't have noticed unless I glanced down at the node (but it was definitely a fresh split)...The split is right in the middle of the node/"Y" and doesn't reach down too far.
I wrapped some of that stretchy green plastic wrap around the base of the top stalks just above where the node split, to "close" the split and hold the two top stalks together a bit (but there's no wrap directly on the split itself).
I'm really hoping the split wasn't deep into the tissue, and hoping the plant heals itself.....Out the few plants/strains I'm growing, that's the one I was looking forward to the most
It really didn't look all that bad....the way people do HST or full on bending/damaging stems a bit looks more intense looking than this little split...but when doing that proper the skin never splits open, so that's what I'm worried about.
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ItsAxe419
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Lipa Kreepa said: If your talking about lolipopping, then yes that can be benficial. IT can help eliminate pest issues and stop wasting energy on anything but the canopy. You are talking about the really low spots that will only get to be tiny little flecks of bud? Not even popcorn buds, were on the same page right?
First off, how large are your plants? If theyre in full on veg mode, and arent too short, it shouldnt be an issue at all... but if its still young, it might be best to wait a minute to not cut short its available photosynthetic pigments... those chemicals are our friends but if the canopy is already established and theyre not doing too much down there anyway, losing them wont hurt anything. Ill tell you a secret... its really hard to kill off a cannabis plant happy growing and good luck
If you really wanted to do something w them... you could always clip em and clone them to beef up the garden. Cloning cannabis is easy. Just watch out for super duper moist humidity domes. You dont need to see big droplets of humidity on the inner walls of the dome. Just a light plume. Heavy condensation beads and little air flow can cause clippings to rott and mold. Open them up daily and
Yeah we’re on the same page. Thanks for the advice I’m probably gonna do it. I have 48 plants in 100-300 gal grows and a light dep greenhouse with 75 in 15gal grows but im just gonna use the ones I’m going to grow in the huge pots not the light dep.
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