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El Torcho
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137] 1
#25306009 - 07/03/18 08:16 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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merch137 said: If you think those are best your best is almost trash. Some people expect different quality in results.
Post up a bud pic.....
Those are some really dank looking leaves you love to show off....
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Ran-D



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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
#25306010 - 07/03/18 08:16 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well the lighting in that photo makes it hard to say on the nitrogen but something is definitely wrong with those ladies.
I would have said that to anyone who posted that photo so dont take it personally.
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merch137
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25306012 - 07/03/18 08:17 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anyone who has eyes can tell theyve only been hit with the hose water for the past month since they came out of flowering.
-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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Ran-D



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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
#25306014 - 07/03/18 08:17 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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merch137 said: Rain has flushed my outdoors potted plants many many times.
Sounds like you never seen or done a flush and what it does to a plant either.
You can't really do that too well though since your ferts are in your soil so your customers are stuck with not only inferior bud but shit that almost for surely gives them a headache.
My soil doesnt need to be flushed, thats a salt grower problem. My flower will be clean.
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merch137
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25306021 - 07/03/18 08:21 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ran-D said:
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merch137 said: Rain has flushed my outdoors potted plants many many times.
Sounds like you never seen or done a flush and what it does to a plant either.
You can't really do that too well though since your ferts are in your soil so your customers are stuck with not only inferior bud but shit that almost for surely gives them a headache.
My soil doesnt need to be flushed, thats a salt grower problem. My flower will be clean.
Still inferior bud by a longshot, I've never seen anything close to my led bud and I dont have pics of anything if I showed whats left from last flowering its all early picked stuff to get the plants revegged.
I've been able to smoke vermont dispensary bud as my mom was a patient here, it was trash in comparison, organic grown bud was also giving headaches.
All the bud I've smoked since growing with leds has seemed inferior, almost as if I've become a weed snob but suppress it to not be a complete ass or I'd never buy anyone elses weed.
-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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El Torcho
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25306022 - 07/03/18 08:23 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ran-D said:
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merch137 said: Rain has flushed my outdoors potted plants many many times.
Sounds like you never seen or done a flush and what it does to a plant either.
You can't really do that too well though since your ferts are in your soil so your customers are stuck with not only inferior bud but shit that almost for surely gives them a headache.
My soil doesnt need to be flushed, thats a salt grower problem. My flower will be clean.
Don't you get it, Ran-D?
Merch tried soil, and he failed at it. He can eek by with hydro. That means he's smarter than everybody. And he has 15 years experience. Did he mention that yet?
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El Torcho
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
#25306026 - 07/03/18 08:24 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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merch137 said: I dont have pics of anything if I showed whats left from last flowering its all early picked stuff to get the plants revegged.
Hmmmmmm
That's convenient.
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merch137
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: El Torcho]
#25306027 - 07/03/18 08:25 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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El Torcho said:
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merch137 said: I dont have pics of anything if I showed whats left from last flowering its all early picked stuff to get the plants revegged.
Hmmmmmm
That's convenient.
i'll put 100 dollars cash that if me you or rand grow against one another my bud will be the best by far. There is no way that trash setup is outdoing hydroponics and leds sorry.
-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: El Torcho]
#25306031 - 07/03/18 08:27 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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El Torcho said:
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Ran-D said:
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merch137 said: Rain has flushed my outdoors potted plants many many times.
Sounds like you never seen or done a flush and what it does to a plant either.
You can't really do that too well though since your ferts are in your soil so your customers are stuck with not only inferior bud but shit that almost for surely gives them a headache.
My soil doesnt need to be flushed, thats a salt grower problem. My flower will be clean.
Don't you get it, Ran-D?
Merch tried soil, and he failed at it. He can eek by with hydro. That means he's smarter than everybody. And he has 15 years experience. Did he mention that yet?
Just because my soil was flushed doesnt signify failure, as previously mentioned I was competent enough to realize soilless mixtures outperformed soil. Which also got flushed. Much worse.
-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
#25306035 - 07/03/18 08:29 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thats cool man. Ive never tried your flower so I wont judge it.
Lets not judge outdoor cannabis based on some boof you got in Vermont though.
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Ran-D



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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25306050 - 07/03/18 08:36 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I didnt mean to derail the thread with an argument so ill try to get back on topic...
I've been seeing a healthy population of assassin bugs in my yard. Hopefully they eat caterpillars, which is my only real pest problem. Might add some moth traps and/or parasitic wasps to eat the eggs this year.
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El Torcho
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
#25306063 - 07/03/18 08:44 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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merch137 said:
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El Torcho said:
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merch137 said: I dont have pics of anything if I showed whats left from last flowering its all early picked stuff to get the plants revegged.
Hmmmmmm
That's convenient.
i'll put 100 dollars cash that if me you or rand grow against one another my bud will be the best by far. There is no way that trash setup is outdoing hydroponics and leds sorry.
I'll put up $1000
Hey man, if you like fake titties.... that's your thing man.
Have fun with your garbage chemical hydro. Probably even still see the scar lines on those plastic titties. . .
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merch137
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25306065 - 07/03/18 08:45 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: Lets not judge outdoor cannabis based on some boof you got in Vermont though.
I hate to do it, but intuition tells me the sun won't give the results of the leds.
Below the first month in soil was nothing compared to what they did in peat moss, every plant I tried after this followed suite. Since then I've tried various self made soilless mixtures to alter performance. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Monday, July 30 2007 Cuttings received and potted here they are today

8/4/06
Some seem to be growing fast, seems like all thier roots are getting used to the soil and the plants are getting used to being outside in florida.
  
8/23/07
 
08/29/07 Today I bought some peat moss and it had a recipe on soil for succulents 1 part perlite, 2 parts verm, 1 part peat moss. I transferred all my kanna cuttings to this pot since they have very small root systems and walmart ran out of pots.

9/11 update

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-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
#25306067 - 07/03/18 08:47 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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...wait, this thread is about succulents? Well fuck me, I'm in the wrong place.
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Feroxx
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25306072 - 07/03/18 08:51 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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merch137
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
#25306073 - 07/03/18 08:52 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: ...wait, this thread is about succulents? Well fuck me, I'm in the wrong place.
Every single plant I tried followed suite.
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merch137 said: every plant I tried after this followed suite. Since then I've tried various self made soilless mixtures to alter performance.
This seems to be one of the only images I can find of multiple plants



-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25306075 - 07/03/18 08:53 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Real answer, you probably bought shit soil the first time. Good job finding the problem and mixing your own though.
Again, I don't always buy bags of soil, I'm down with using compost and mixing your own, but when I have to buy it the reason I spend the extra money on brands like Roots Organics is because they are designed by cannabis growers for cannabis growers. It is a quality product. Not like the bullshit miraclegro or whatever you get at Lowes.
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merch137
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25306077 - 07/03/18 08:54 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've used bagged soil, and I've also used soil florida soil.
I didnt like none of the shit. "Good" soil don't exist in a superior fashion to other methods.
-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: merch137]
#25306083 - 07/03/18 08:56 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude, you are basically building the same soil you are dissing. Peat moss and perlite are the main 2 ingredients in most soils.
Youre trolling me right? How did I let it go this far...
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merch137
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25306085 - 07/03/18 08:57 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: Dude, you are basically building the same soil you are dissing. Peat moss and perlite are the main 2 ingredients in most soils.
Youre trolling me right? How did I let it go this far...
Coco and perlite are the main two and only two I use atm with no verm, mostly perlite as I've discussed in this thread.
Coco is used over peat due to its ph.
Also, its used in soilless mixtures not soils. Or atleast theres a big difference between these two if youre mixing in dirt.
-------------------- Those that know their mushrooms say...[...] Amanita. [quote]sublimistri said: id probably just trip it out then make them a friend and grow my own belladonna secretly to dose them on. [/quote] [quote]sublimistri said: this is the exact reason I wanna grow belladonna, because ima get that bitch back. [/quote]
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