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LizardWizard said:
I should have left you on ignore. Third time I've had that thought since removing you from my nig list, and since third time is the charm...
Woah woah woah, slow down there Liz. Are you sure you want to lose the help of such a master grower? Haven't you seen the plants he posts?
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Hobbit GDF said: I know it's none of my business, but why not just let shit slide. he was trying to help you, knowing you didn't need help, just offering it. anyway, my point is, why type negativity and just let shit slide. seems like it would be better that way but who am I Ya know. that's for everyone on here, not anyone specific, isn't it easier to just not type anything, than spend time typing negativity? I mean Im spending time writing this because I don't like to see this shit and I care about all you guys. there has to be a different way ya know.
Enjoil is a bully who posts more unwarranted negative attacks in here than anyone else. He also contributes the least photos of grows. He only posts the same pictures of the same little struggling plants over and over. He is also prone to threats of violence. Why do you never call him out for his bullshit, but rush to his rescue when others take issue with him? If you were about letting things slide and not being negative you wouldn't enable his behavior. I'm not a terribly big fan of some of the shit Liz posts sometimes, but at least he is more constructive and adds to the conversation without pathetic and childish threats of violence over the internet.
I'll stop digging at enjoil randomly if it really upsets you that much, but I will absolutely shut him down when he is a bully to people. I have him on ignore so this only comes to my attention when other people quote him or interact with him negatively. The frequency it happens is fucking annoying, kind of defeats the ignore feature.
Now, moving on, When do y'all start mixing TLO soil for the summer crops? I like to get it going in late february or early march. I find early april to be the latest I can mix with enough time to digest before summer.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Nichrome]
#27599898 - 12/30/21 01:30 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Nichrome said: What is TLO?
True Living Organics. A snobby way of saying I build organic soil full of microbes.
I'm not particularly fond of the term but it's what the kids say so, fuck it
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Nichrome] 1
#27599991 - 12/30/21 03:20 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Nichrome said: So "soil"....lol
Depends on what you are working with....
What are you working with?
Dirt by any other name 
I like to work with a base mix of quality potting soil such as EB Stone or similar organic soils. Given the issues with varying quality in bagged soils lately I find myself defaulting back to a base of sunshine mix and remembering why I like working with it. I like to work with a mix peat/coir based soil but am not apposed to a properly composted forest humus and will sometimes work some in from the local woods. For aggregate and drainage I like using crushed red lava rock the best. It provides a tiny fraction of micro nutes while looking prettier than perlite that floats to the top during watering. It's also free and all around out here as apposed to perlite that is becoming more scarce and expensive.
Worm poo is my compost of choice when mixing a base. I will use that before anything else, but an not apposed to heavily composted herbaceous matter or steer manure. If I'm mixing soil for a real feeder that likes to stretch big I'll toss in a few shovels of chicken manure from the pen. I'll collect elk and deer turds when I'm out hunting and mushroom hunting and toss a bucket of that in as well, which is part of why I like such a long composting time.
For PH buffer and cal/mag I like to use dolomite lime, oyster shell, and hydrated lime.
That pretty much covers the base mix. I'll mix in glacial dust from the source sometimes.
For fertilizer I'll mix in different things each year.
Fish meal Guano (bat, sea bird, ect) blood meal bone meal neem meal humic acid kelp meal alfalfa crab meal Rainbow mix bloom
I tend to use sources that also provide calcium without going over the cal tox limit. I find far too much attention is paid to NPK and not nearly enough to calcium. It seems to be the thing people have the most issues with deficiency of.
Sometimes I'll supplement through the grow with fish emulsion or a bottled bloom nute when it needs a boost. For the past two years I have treated the plants with a light foliar spray of silica during vege and early flower, they REALLY respond to it.
I prefer to let my soil mix sit for a full five to six months if I can. Less than that and the microbes don't have enough time to really break everything down and make it available.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr Piggy]
#27599995 - 12/30/21 03:26 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Oh shit, I forgot to mention! One of the best soils I ever made had a base of spent coir sub from monotub cube grows. I really let it compost down for a half a year before using it to make a soil mix. Holy shit those plants were happy!
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: joze] 1
#27600223 - 12/30/21 06:38 PM (2 years, 28 days ago) |
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Yo, I grow indoors in a 2x2x5 grow tent.
Get an AC infinity inline 4" fan, little more expensive than some from daddy Bezos... but they are whisper quiet and a quality build. Hook that up to a Phresh 4x12 carbon filter so the fan is outside of the tent pulling air through your filter that is hanging inside of the grow tent.
No smell, problem solved.
You can skimp a little on lights, you can skimp a little on tents, but if smell is a concern do not skimp on the fan and filter. That fan/filter combo should only set you back about 200 bucks and the filter will last a few years as apposed to the garbage filters amazon sells for cheaper. If smell and space are your primary concern then that is the combo that will solve your problems. I got the AC infinity Cloudline T4 fan without the temp controller and it cost a lot less. You want the fan running continuously 24/7, a controller could shut it off if a certain temp is achieved.
My entire indoor grow setup is:
Secret jardin 2x2x5.5 indoor grow tent HLG 135w Rspec LED grow light (same power as a 250w hps while drawing maybe 1/3 the power) AC Infinity Cloudline T4 inline fan Phresh filters 4x12 filter and prefilter Small clip on no name 4" mushroom fan for air circulation in the tent.
That's it and about as simple as it gets. It all packs down to a couple of boxes when I don't feel like having a grow going and only takes up four square feet total when I have it out. You should be able to achieve 8 oz a run with that setup once you get a few under your belt and can read you plants. Easily four ounces with your eyes closed and one hand tied behind your back.
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Hobbit GDF said: So what strains are you guys & gals looking forward to obtaining?
I recently found seeds for the best strain I ever grew. MTG seeds B-4. It's a cross of a "stabilized blue dream" and Chem4. Most phenotypes are a sticky hybrid, but every now and then this stringy sativa pops out that is an incredible smoke. Super sensitive to nutes, one foot between internodes, every single branch has to be staked up, 110+ day flowering... Just an absolute princess and challenge to grow, but the smoke is un god damn real. I'm hoping to find it again.
I also got a freebee thrown in of Cherry OG (Purple Afghan – OG Kush x OG Kush-Cherry Bomb). Looks greasy as hell, supposed to be a fruit flavored OG. I'm into it.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: joze] 1
#27601032 - 12/31/21 10:36 AM (2 years, 27 days ago) |
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If a fan and a carpbon filter will eliminate the smell for the most part, I can pull that off. My girlfriend and I smoke weed so our apartment already smells a bit, but I just can't have it reeking so my landlord can smell it down the hall.
Not for the most part, completely if it's set up correctly. When I run that setup the air in the room it's in is as pure as it gets. Fresh oxygen from the plants being pumped into the room and the filter is eliminating all the airborne scents and particles. Your lung health will improve. Sometimes it's as fresh as a thunderstorm in there.
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Nickoloxious said: Update on the ladies. Has been very hot & dry recently, watering everything almost daily. 
 ~ Black domina;
 Purple buds;
 Super buds;
 White diesel;

These little ones are reaching for the sun! They do seem to be hungry for some more N though, do you mind if I ask what soil you have them in and what you're feeding with?
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The overall good health of the plants coupled with a slightly light green color and yellowing moving up from the oldest growth at the bottom spells out nitrogen deficiency to me. They're just hungry, that's all.
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Doc9151 said:
My suggestion is to look at the plant in some shade instead full sun, those pictures can be deceptive.
Look at the bottom of the super buds plant, there is very clear and distinct fading that starts at the bottom and becomes less the further up the plant you go. If you look at the bottom left of the black domina there are a few leaves all in the shade. Without the sun on them you can see the very clear yellow fading in the leaves.
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They're in some mid grade potting soil. there should still be some level of nitrogen & nutes already in the soil as it came with 8 months worth of feeding. Not to mention I added dynamic lifter to the medium when I re-potted them. So I haven't really been feeding them all that much recently. When I do It will likely be with Seasol, comfrey tea or as Lizard wizard suggested, my piss... I believe that the plants aren't eating as much because we're in the midst of a heatwave. with several days now of consecutive 40*C (100*F ) heat and very low humidity (less than 25%). My priority at the moment is keeping the roots cool and moist. For the time being I doubt they'll readily absorb excess nitrogen if I were to add it to the soil. I'll see how things go once the temps start dropping again in a couple of days and if the plants don't regain their proper green foliage, I'll begin feeding.
Mid grade soil will not come with eight months of feeding in it for a cannabis plant. If dynamic lifter is the fertilizer I am looking at it will not have had enough time to break down in the soil and be available to the plant, especially if it is pelletized like in the description. Blood meal, bone meal, and fish meal are fantastic dry mix fertilizers, but they require eight weeks minimum to break down in a soil and be available to your plant. I don't think comfrey or urine are going to cut it, urine just introduces unwanted salts anyway. When my girls want a boost of N I feed with liquid fish emulsion and it gets them perky. It's cheap, organic, effective, and mixes in with water easy. They should still be growing in 100 degrees, mine only stopped putting on growth for a couple of days when we hit 118F. The leaves that have faded will not regain green again. Look for a good green on the new growth to see if they are recovering.
How well is your soil draining?
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Romix] 1
#27602221 - 01/01/22 09:41 AM (2 years, 27 days ago) |
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Y'all, there are a thousand sources of nutrients better than urine. I think guys just like to play with their pee 
Aka, that sativa is showing signs of both too much N and possibly PH issues. I agree it would be good to bump up the cal/mag, but what's your medium again?
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If you're that hard up for sources of nutrients then go ahead and piss all over them, but I happen to be able to find many sources of nitrogen that are far better. Come on, you just like playing with your pee.
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Seriously, what is your problem with using a bit of pee on your plants? You do realize urea is used even in facial cremes, right? I already told you salts are really not an issue, so what is it? Are you that disgusted by a bit of urine? There's people drinking piss for a variety of reasons, including getting high, so what's the worst thing about smoking a plant that drank your piss?
My issue is there are so many fertilizers that are BETTER at the job, all without smelling like piss. It's not that there isn't nitrogen in human urine, it's that there are so many BETTER sources of fertilizer. Also it should be noted that human urine is not sterile and can spread infections, no matter what hippies tell you. Perhaps if you composted it off by pissing in your pile, but urine direct to plants makes me laugh every time. It makes indoor plants smell like piss, and outdoors it can get other animals competitive about where you're peeing. I've had that issue.
If you're using urine as a fertilizer it's not because it's the best source of N or phos you have on hand, it's because you like playing with pee. It's okay to admit that, but don't try to convince me otherwise
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hummingbird said: Ah, the old night soil. I do see composting toilets getting more popular in the future. A lot of bagged compost has some amount of biosolids in it these days.
I pee on the fresher side of the compost pile when it's not single digits outside. That's the actual extent of my pee use in gardening.
Oh yes, now night soil is a great compost! I'm currently putting together all the systems I'll need for my off grid home and this is at the top of the list. I'm going back and forth about building my own or just saying fuck it and going with the sun mar 1000C. I used to compost my pig's shit for a year and use it in the garden after a long good breakdown. That stuff was black gold! Also, pigs are the best and cutest waste disposal units there are. Don't even have to be bigguns, I raised american guinea hogs, they max out a little over 250 lbs. Sometimes what a compost pile needs is a little moisture, warmth, and N. Nothing wrong with the occasional pee in the pile. I'm not "scared" or "squeamish" about human waste, I've just noticed there is a bit of a fetish about human urine with some growers where they make claims about it that are not true. I'm not specifically targeting anyone with that, it's just a trend that won't go away. Urine is certainly not on the top of my reclamation list of things that come out of me. I prefer to get N from alfalfa, kelp, fish, and neem cake. Worm poo is great for it too, with added C from their tract lining.
Liz, I'm gonna give you an ignore break for a little while. Most of the time I like interacting with you but you've been too nasty lately. Talking about my partner like that is over the line. That's taking a simple debate and making it very personal. I hope whatever is making you bristle at everyone lately works itself out.
A quick google search will disabuse anyone of the notion of urine's sterility. Don't cherry pick.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Bph]
#27603459 - 01/02/22 09:18 AM (2 years, 26 days ago) |
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Bph said: Lol. My wife is looking around the bedroom for food. She said there is no way this weed plant is smelling like that. She thinks there is a bowl of menudo under the bed or something. :
The first time I grew MOB I came in the house and asked my wife when the pie was going to be done. She gave me the exact look I deserved to get as there was no blueberry pie in the oven
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: A.k.a] 2
#27606935 - 01/04/22 03:49 PM (2 years, 23 days ago) |
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A.k.a said: ’m kind of surprised people doing f1 and f2 seeds is so big. With the range of stuff you’d see that early seems rare you’d get what you were wanting from them.
It has been my experience that F1 crosses tend to be homogenous and F2 is where all the variety really starts popping out of the background.
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It's not a strain until it's stabilized.
Blue dream isn't a strain, it's a cutting of one plant that came from a pollen chuck.
A very nice, very lucky outcome.
But a pollen chuck and an endlessly cloned single plant to start.
I will die on this hill.
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Mr Piggy] 1
#27607383 - 01/04/22 10:08 PM (2 years, 23 days ago) |
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Now we get to argue about F1 Hybrids (not meaning sativa-indica) and whether or not they count as strains if the company endlessly clones the mother and father to make F1 seeds that destabilize at F2.

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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: openmind] 2
#27607927 - 01/05/22 11:21 AM (2 years, 22 days ago) |
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To be clear, I never said anything negative about F1s, pollen chucking, or unstable plants... Only that they are not actual strains.
I've never actually bred cannabis. I have pollen chucked for fun, taken things past f2, and kinda tracked traits... but that's not breeding. I had a lot of fun with my crosses and this year my two healthiest plants were from last year's bagseeds. Guess what? I'm about to pop bagseeds from those. Just mystery pollen floating in from who knows where, yee haw. 
I'm glad other people are having fun crossing things and seeing what happens, keep it up.
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