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Mostly_Harmless
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Milk, bicarb, sulfur, a few options for both prevention and control.
Mildew is fungal.
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Sofaking420



Registered: 02/09/18
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Mostly_Harmless said: Milk, bicarb, sulfur, a few options for both prevention and control.
Mildew is fungal.
Could this mildew be a product of mush cult? Even through they are in different houses? Like contaim spores or something ?
Do you have any advise to how to use the products you mentioned ?
I regularly clean my room with peroxide and bleach solution. I was told vinegar cleans mold and stuff very well.
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Ran-D



Registered: 12/19/10
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Lipa Kreepa said: I see what you mean ran-d. I have never burned that much power though. When i grew, i topped out around 400w. It was still a positive experience though... still totally worth it. I guess its all how you look at it. But ess the main question is, 'is it worth the risk? Weight wise or maybe cash wise (if thats your thing)?
And damn, i had no idea about that in cali. It makes perfect sense that they would be concerned w it. Esp since corporate and gov is in the business now. Permits and qualifications and legal tape is what they do best as they hold their seats as grand puppetmasters. What is the penalty for growing weed outside in a legal weed state? Fine... possible jail time?
Edit... to loph. Idk man, that looks really young to me. How long has it been blooming for?
For my six plants the penalty probably isnt much. The sheriffs have already seen it from their helicopter, but they won't come unless my neighbors complain. In that case, they would likely give me 10 days to get rid of em or move em indoors.
As far as commercial goes, thats another story. Certain counties collected millions in fees and taxes from legal farms then completely banned growing the next year. Those farms now face fines of $2 per sq ft. per day, which is like 80k an acre.
Shits crazy.
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Ran-D



Registered: 12/19/10
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: MeanGreen]
#25290490 - 06/25/18 07:07 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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MeanGreen said: Any of you guys followed the recent developments of the Rosin tek and tried making solventless crystalline THCA?
If you haven't, basically you can press buddered rosin at low temp & low pressure to squeeze out the terps and be left with relatively pure THCA in white crystalline powder form.
The logic seems pretty spot on to me, basically ghetto column chromatography if you think about it. The filter bag is the silica gel and the terp fraction melts at a lower point and travels through filter while the THCA stays inside the bag.
I'm gonna be trying this very soon, would be interested to hear other people's experiences.
Here's a video showing the process and end product:
And a good reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/CannabisExtracts/comments/7qg4ys/how_does_solventless_rosin_diamonds_work/
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer old school hashish to all this isolated stuff. I don't want pure THC, I want full spectrum.
Just preference though...
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Ran-D



Registered: 12/19/10
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Sofaking420 said:
Some people tell me it's actually a virus that gets in the plant. Is this true?.
Edit: opinions vary on whether it is truly systemic, but it is likely all over your plants invisibly if it is not inside them.
Systemic fungicides might work if you are into using chemicals.
Edited by Ran-D (06/25/18 07:11 AM)
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Humble Newcomer
Diddler de niños



Registered: 03/12/17
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25290603 - 06/25/18 08:49 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: If you aren't running at least 1000 watts why even waste the time growing indoor?
true. personal indoor grows aren't really worth it unless you can maximize and profit some. running 1000w is so expensive monthly. atleast here it is. 15cents/kw/hour. $54 dollars monthly on just lighting
My electric is usually like 120 in summer I just got a 239 bill. I have (2) 1000 watt mh/hps but during veg I only used one at 50% power for a while then both at half power when they were all in final pots. Now I'm at 75% power on both giving me around 1500 watts in 25square feet and I don't think I'm going to turn them up to 100.
I'm over the 50watt per square foot rule of thumb but I always kind of assumed it was an efficiency point learned by growers over the years. I was going to play it by ear when the electric bill came. I'm same price per kWh
This whole setup is used from a buddy who used to run them both at full power, that's 80w per square foot 
I didn't know so many outdoor bans we're happening. I agree, I know many people who couldn't afford a good proper indoor setup esp considering if a state gives a low plant count many would opt to veg for longer and get big plants, maybe even run a SCROG or similar. Bigger footprint needed means bigger tent, more lights.
There's also some kinds of people out there who are inclined to think indoor is complicated period, even with the simplest setup. Ilovegrowingmarijuana is an information rich forum I constantly go to when I have questions, they have a support ticket system almost like a mechanic shop people make a post using this template what soil or hydro what pH what nutes what's your problem and ten plus people a day post issues and ask for help.
But why don't I start an account there and join in?
They're all old, many with stage 4 cancers, wheel chair ridden, going to the hospital and chemotherapy regularly. Most of them are living paycheck to paycheck and can't afford dispensaries If they live in a legal state and the others that don't live in legal states talk about this being the first time they've really broke the law or smoked grass since the 60s and they're all having a laugh about the old times.
A lot of simple older people who can't afford to grow indoors, can't do the work of moving pots around, etc, that's for sure. A much bigger slice than I had considered. Shoot there's several people I noticed that grow illegally to make their own Rick Simpson Oil and put it in capsules and give themselves suppositories bc it's the only way to ingest 1g daily with zero euphoria. If I knew how to insert graphics I'd put the mind blown one in right there bc that just blows my mind
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Humble Newcomer
Diddler de niños



Registered: 03/12/17
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Lopho - in general they say up to 12 weeks flower time total. I've read some strains supposedly finish in 8-10 weeks which means all strains will vary but again bc trichome color is the final say of when to harvest every harvest is ultimately your say, so no one can quote it exact.
Rules of thumb I've noticed is ppl stop feeding Cal mag at week six of flower, many stop feeding altogether or reduce to minimal feedings low on nitrogen at this time to let plant yellow off.
From week 6-12 the plant uses what's left in soil and then burns off it's stored reserves and fan leaves turn yellow and die off I've heard that's nitrogen deficiency and normal I've heard it's senescence and normal ams I've also heard it's bad growing and you can keep your plants green til harvest and anyone who has dying fan leaves is an idiot. 
Amazon has some sweet Jewelers loupes, most are 20 or 40x I got a 60x I think or maybe a 40x with LEDs but it was only ten bucks and it feels solid. Took three weeks to get from China but I dont care I plan ahead.
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MeanGreen
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25290624 - 06/25/18 09:15 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: Call me old fashioned, but I prefer old school hashish to all this isolated stuff. I don't want pure THC, I want full spectrum.
Just preference though...
I agree too, it's just for the novelty kinda. But isolates aren't available in my country, I'd like to at least give it a go once. Although it has its place I guess, for people who need high levels of thc and cant'/don't want to inhale any carcinogens.
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Humble Newcomer
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: MeanGreen]
#25290634 - 06/25/18 09:20 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I do like the idea of extracts for cleanliness it also satisfies my itch to tinker and learn things, I guarantee I'll be all up in that after I get rosin down and a few other things down.
I've never had a good edible experience after several wasted bags of decent mids so that's one of my first goals. And make good real hash. Besides learning how to grow in general of course haha my main focus and learning my space. Now that I'm seeing my electric bills I wish I had started more plants I'm understaffed in the tent. Oh well. Learn as much as u can and do it again and learn more. Years of exciting learning I hope
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Ran-D



Registered: 12/19/10
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Use coconut oil for the edibles. Ibusually infuse mine with the lower grade bubble hash.
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Humble Newcomer
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25290676 - 06/25/18 09:40 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I did. I looked at decarb charts, I did the math based on a conservative THC percentage and then ate double and triple and quintuple the recommended dosage.
I've done decarb in oven first before a 4 hour cook in Crock-Pot with coconut oil and water mix I've done no decarb before 4 hour Crock-Pot I've done no decarb before a 24 hour Crock-Pot.
I've done Graham cracker firecrackers in foil in the oven.
I'm going to do one or two last hurrahs and then I'll know for sure that there is in fact people who have zero to near zero efect.
I am mildly more relaxed and notice I don't desire to smoke cannabis. But that's at 5x recommended dose and very unsatisfied in general.
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Psilosion

Registered: 03/23/17
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I don't feel edibles either other than in massive doses I get drowsy, but I don't get high.
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Ran-D



Registered: 12/19/10
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Humble Newcomer said:
I'm going to do one or two last hurrahs and then I'll know for sure that there is in fact people who have zero to near zero efect.
That's a bold statement.
I have built a high tolerance so it takes a lot for me too, even when its extremely potent. One tablespoon of mine will have a normal person FUNKED up. But I can drop a couple tablespoons in my coffee and be fine.
There's nothing like a good edible high though. It can be psychedelic.
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Lophosaurus
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Registered: 08/09/07
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: MeanGreen]
#25290697 - 06/25/18 09:48 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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OK Thanks guys. I'm going to order one of those jewelers things now and resume feeding until I get it.
I agree with the hash thing too. I was excited to get some nice Moroccan hash or bubble hash when I moved to this legal state, but all the dispensaries carry is super potent wax and similar things. I prefer flower. Good hash is 2nd
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Humble Newcomer
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Psilosion]
#25290701 - 06/25/18 09:51 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've been told yes that's possible (not getting high from edibles) because THC becomes THCsomethingdifferent when it leaves your liver after ingestion, unlike smoking, and then I've heard no you're doing it wrong decarb it for only 7 minutes at the high temp side of rhe decarb chart and that makes all the difference, the same guy swore that at 220 or whatever the low and slow way was actually vaping off a lot of the cannabinoids.
It'll be nice to have several ounces of the best bud around to put all of these rumors to bed and find definitiveky what works with my physiology. I'll prob even make a post about it to make sure I get everyone's insight and recipes and dosage recommendations so we can either a) have a sad consensus that I'm left our of the party or b) end up having an incredibly uncomfortable time meeting Mary Jane for the first real time in all her splendor
Sometimes you just gotta put in the work
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openmind
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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25291124 - 06/25/18 02:51 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: ....So yea, my 6 plants are technically illegal, even though theyre legal. 
Same here (on the county level).....I've waited to grow for so long, now that it's "legal" I'm finally just saying "fuck it" and putting a few plants among my backyard garden. I figure the worst case scenario is a neighbor complains or somehow it ultimately leads to a knock on the door and I'm told I have to remove the plants, or potentially a ticket (If one is within the state law and has 6 plants or less, I'm assuming it's just a fine for violating the county law)
It's still early in the season but my nieghborhood already stanks like herb so I'm not the only one around here with plants outdoors ....My next door neighbors seem pretty chill too so I don't think they're going to complain.
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As far as commercial goes, thats another story. Certain counties collected millions in fees and taxes from legal farms then completely banned growing the next year. Those farms now face fines of $2 per sq ft. per day, which is like 80k an acre.
I know where you're talking about, I've heard about that too...so ridiculous .
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Ran-D said:
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer old school hashish to all this isolated stuff. I don't want pure THC, I want full spectrum.
I hear ya, I'm the same way....but some classic rosin is more or less a full spectrum extract of sorts, or at least it's got a broader spectrum than basic BHO or bubble/water hash. All that's being done is squeezing the oils out of the buds and the plant material is left behind.
There's also some true full spectrum solvent extracts out there that are sooo so good!...The absolute epitome of a cannabis extract, it has the entire spectrum of goods...It's beautiful in aesthetics, has ridiculous aroma and flavor, and the high is super nice (closer to a strong bud high rather than that of a purely THC high)...It's basically the pure composition of a "trichome", but with all of the plant material/chlorophyll and fats/waxes/lipids removed, everything else is intact.
Check it out>>>
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But!!!....When it comes down to it...I too prefer me some good ol' bubble hash or buds. Since solvent extracts have become all the "hype" in recent years it's hard to come across quality water/bubble hash, I rarely see water hash anymore. I plan on getting some bags to make some after my harvest .
I prefer high quality buds over hash or extracts in general....but I do dab from time to time . I just like the balanced high from buds more. Dabs will get me super high, but something is usually "lacking" in the high...flowers are always more satisfying.
With rosin, or those full spectrum oils...the high is much more balanced and "richer" compared to the high from some basic BHO that's mostly THC.
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KenInVic
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Lophosaurus said: I'm guessing it's only been about a month. I've never really grown weed before so I'm not sure what signs to look for and how long it will take from that. I have some reading to do
I would suggest you are at least 3 weeks out before you want to consider stopping feeding and going into the final flush. As already noted, find a magnifier and watch the colour state of the the trichomes (not the pistils). Flowering ranges from about 7 weeks to 9 weeks depending on strain. You're not there yet.
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Humble Newcomer
Diddler de niños



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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: KenInVic]
#25291229 - 06/25/18 03:57 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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So bubble hash is what you make with the five gallon buckets and different sizes od holes in different bags? Use ice to help freeze the trichomes off and agitate it?
I've seen a video of hash company that freezes the flower and rubs them over a fine mesh screen on a large table with gloved hands for a few minutes. They cold compress the trichomes in a handheld hydraulic press into a gorgeous brown brick. Not sure if that method of prep would have a different name.
Also how does everyone make rosin? I've heard some people have that $300 rosin press or however much it costs people love it. But there's videos of how to do it with an iron and wax paper too some people get good at it
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Ran-D



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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: openmind]
#25291522 - 06/25/18 06:33 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ill dab some rosin, I was referring to the THCa isolate or whatever that I keep seeing everywhere.
And yea, no BHO. Butane psychosis is real.
Edited by Ran-D (06/25/18 06:34 PM)
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Humble Newcomer
Diddler de niños



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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Ran-D]
#25292833 - 06/26/18 10:53 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm glad I didn't get my hopes up too much

In the back there's three bruce banner tops I stabbed in pots and they're perky.
These were all tops that were planted on 6/18.
Here's a pic from 6/21 that I posted saying hey the banners look perky and the others are starting to wilt.

It's neat that you could tell plant suicide in a sense, I didn't use humididomes but knowing what they're for I kept them at 50% humidity and sprayed once a day wetting the soil and foliar watering. 24hr cfl light.
Ant tips on getting more to attempt at new life next time? I monitored soil moisture with the knuckle deep finger check. All conditions were good.
Is this where rooting hormone comes in? I've heard of it ans have no clue what it's for.
Have a good day everyone
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