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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: LizardWizard] * 1
    #26915786 - 09/03/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm thinking about asking a mod to move this thread into a different forum, like the pub, so we can talk about things like harvesting out plants, drying our harvest, curing our herb, making hash from the herb we grow, making edibles, making various oils/extracts, etc etc...

....I feel it's super silly that we can't talk about all that stuff in this thread just because the thread so happens to reside in the "ethno-garden" forum :rolleyes: . I don't really understand why none of that can be talked about here considering this is a website about psychedelics/drugs and growing mushrooms and people post all sorts of different drugs. I live in a legal state but I can't talk about what I do with my plants after I've grown them in this thread :rolleyes: lol.

I want this to be a thread for cannabis growers and all things cannabis (from seed to harvest to drying to curing to smoking to making hash and edibles). I was thinking about making a separate thread for hash since I guess we can't post anything about hash in here...but I don't want to have to make a bunch of separate threads in different parts of the shroomery.








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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: Spellbound] * 1
    #26923204 - 09/07/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Just some rambles about my plants....

My plants/buds continue to appear free of mites and continue to swell up & frost up more each day.

Looking back at pics of the plants I grew last summer around this time of season and comparing them to the plants I have growing right now, the plants I have growing right now are actually pretty much right along the same point in development and look just as good if not better than the plants I had last year at this time of season. (makes me wonder how much more "dank" they potentially could have been if never impacted by the mites)


Three of my plants appear to be "late bloomers"...Wedding Cake, Strawberry Banana, and a seed grown plant that came out of the "Thin Mint" I grew last year. They're just now barely starting to "bud up" as of the past 3 days or so, calyx/pistils are just now clustering/stacking up enough to form baby-buds. I'm not sure if they are starting to bloom relatively late because of their genetics, and/or if the mites caused these plants to basically "stall" and slow down on development?...But all my plants had mites and only these 3 are late to bloom so I'm assuming it might just be their genetics :shrug: . I've never had plants start to bud-up so late in the season tho, I'm assuming these plants won't be done until the 1st or 2nd week or November.


The plant I have growing that came from seed out of my Thin Mint plant from last summer...It has appeared pretty similar to the Thin Mint in form & structure & even has a bit of that camphor smell that Thin Mint has, but now that it is starting to bud up I can tell the bud structure appears much different than the Thin Mint plant it came from. The bud forming seems way more "sativa" like in structure...At the pace this plant is going I'm guessing it's going to be the last plant I harvest and might not be ready until middle of November. I'm looking forward to smelling the resin on this plant as soon as it starts to become frosted, since this will be the first plant I've grown from my own seed I'm really not sure about the aroma/characteristics it will have. Not that I did any pollen chucking or anything, my hands played no part in the pollination, I actually don't know where the pollen came from so that's got me kinda interested in seeing how this plant turns out. It has a sister too in a small pot, that plant also has bud structure way different than the Thin Mint plant it came from.



The Lemon Wookie Glue smells lovely already (lemon, pine, gas)...Def the most aromatic/terp rich plant I have going right now.

The Granimals (Grape Pie X Animal Cookies) is the second most aromatic plant I have growing right now (pungent funk/garbage/chemicals, sweet & sour, grape/berries, some warm woody/spice)

The Vanilla Frosting is the third most aromatic....can't put my finger on it just yet, not too distinct yet, but mostly a sweet/floral & gassy essence.

My "Sour D X Lemon Kush" and my "Capstone" plants are both quite frosted already, more so than my other plants, the aroma isn't all that pungent yet tho on those plants.



Temps will be up around 108 to 110 in my area today. This should be the last heat wave of the year. Then 25+mph winds tomorrow (such gnarly dangerous fire weather :crazy:), I'm going to be making sure my plants & their branches are all secure & tied to their trellis this evening before the winds get here later tonight/tomorrow.





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Re: The Official Cannabis [Re: LizardWizard] * 1
    #26923212 - 09/07/20 02:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I know it's not canna cultivation, but...




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awwww....Cute lil critter.


Congrats on the lil one lizwiz :sun: :happyweed:






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: coda]
    #26929997 - 09/11/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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fuck the borg






I hear ya on that. This being the first time I've had to deal with em' (hemp/russet mites tho, not spider mites like you have IIRC), now I understand all the dread & hate growers have towards them. I was aware of how much these bastards are dreaded by cannabis growers, I def heard stories and mentions about em' but didn't really understand it fully until I experienced em' myself.

In hindsight I'm actually surprised I didn't have issues with them at all last year or the year before (tho I do suspect one of my plants had a small infestation start to develop shortly before harvest last year)....That's one of the reasons I didn't really use anything to prevent them, since I had grown outdoors in the same spot the past two years with no real issues and being on a budget I didn't want to drop $ on things I might have not needed. But sheesh, it's been a lesson learned for me for sure.



I started to notice signs of them again on my two big plants two days ago, but mostly only within the small buds/leaves towards the inner/lower portion of the plants. I spotted em' by noticing some buds no longer had white pistils on their tips and they were brown/shriveled and looked "lifeless" and had relatively little aroma compared to the day before. I went through the plants once again by cutting away/removing more shoots & branches that had signs of mites (mostly stuff I'd be removing anyways/larfy) and I gave the plants another application of that Dr. Zymes. Today I'm not seeing any more signs of them. I'm thinking I'm going to have to purchase another bottle of the stuff and keep up on applying it every 3 to 4 days just to be safe & sure.

What I really fucking hate about these things tho....It's not like they merely stop buds from developing, they seem to actually suck the life/essence out of the buds entirely. So if a plant is in the middle of flowering and already has some sexy looking buds and a lot of resin/aroma to them, it's not like the plant just stops developing from the mites but rather all of the life/essence in the buds gets sucked out by the bastards. Even the trichomes appear literally deflated/shrunken once mites get into the bud....Overnight they can turn a bud that's super resinous with fat-bulbous milky trichomes with a nice rich & loud aroma into total trash with shrunken trichomes and shriveled/brown pistils and no aroma/resin/essence to them at all.




Coda....What do you use to prevent/combat the borg and how do you go about it? Sounds like this isn't your first rodeo with em'.






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: Icon]
    #26933599 - 09/13/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Coda....What do you use to prevent/combat the borg and how do you go about it? Sounds like this isn't your first rodeo with em'.




the best solution to mite eradication is a multi pronged attack and consistent treatment until the infestation is gone.  Plants are a lot easier to deal with in veg than flower since you have more options available to you.  First things first, reduce the foliage as much as possible.  For me i always like taking as many clones as possible, treating them, then quarantine them.  Then remove any and all dying or sick leaves, then focus on removing as many fans/branches as you feel comfortable with.  The less places they have to hide and feed the better, plus removing excess foliage also removes many mites from the plant.  Also keeping humidity high and a nice stiff breeze going discourages mite breeding and population growth.  I make sure to treat the walls and floor with something (usually a bleach solution) on treatment days.......

.......Outdoors, well, best you can do is just treat them and hope you can knock em down enough to allow your plant some room to thrive.







Thanks for the full run down of what you do to combat the bastards. :wink:

That's basically where I'm at with growing outdoors....At this point, in the middle of the flowering, I'm just trying to keep the mites wiped out enough so my plants can develop properly. Next time around I'll be using some bio-insecticides (possibly predatory mites) that should help keep an infestation from ever happening at all.


Sounds like you've got an arsenal and a regimen that works for you...but just a heads up about some other tools that I've come across in all of my recent reading about mites and getting suggestions from others about the issue...This "Dr. Zymes" stuff I've been using seems to be doing the trick (it is enzyme/citric acid based from what I understand, some sort of proprietary mixture tho). It is an insecticide and fungicide, good for soft bodied insects and molds/mildews.

And "Grandevo" and "Venerate" are the two bio-insecticides I'm considering using next time around. I've heard good things from a few people that use these through out the entire grow season as part of (the core of) their pest management regimen. They're safe to use during flowering all the way to the day of harvest.


(Grandevo uses the bacterium Chromobacterium subtsugae strain PRAA4-1T to provide long-lasting, broad spectrum control of sucking and chewing insects. It is toxic to insects and mites when ingested, reduces reproduction rates and repels pests after application. OMRI listed and NOP compliant.

Venerate XC uses killed cells of the Burkholderia spp. strain A396 and spent fermentation media. It's toxic to insects when ingested, degrades insect exoskeletons and interferes with the molting process. Effective against both adults and nymphs. OMRI listed)









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I can't wait to make the full conversion to hydro... so done with all the organic soils and nutrients. What a mess and waste of $






Isn't growing via hydro/with salts and having to purchase bottled "nutes" more of a costly way to grow versus growing organically with organic amendments in live soil? I'm using the same soil I purchased 3 years ago and it's only getting better with each passing year, I'll continue to use this same soil for years & years.


I grow organically/live soil and I don't have to really purchase any "nutes" for my plants/soil at all....I compost all of my food scraps through the year and the following year that goes into my soil. I collect nettles from my yard and use those for my soil. I collect different plants to ferment and that goes into my soil. Around the beginning of veg I do a top dressing with alfalfa, kelp, bone & feather meal (cost me less than $15). I give the soil some fish emulsion a few times through veg ($10 in total). I give the soil a little bit of aloe & molasses through out the grow. Before & during early flowering I give the soil another top dressing with a few different "meals" a bit higher in -PK (bone meal, alfalfa, kelp, etc)....

....I've never grown via hydro or with salts/nutes in bottles, but it seems like that method of growing would cost a lot more than growing organically would since you have to actually purchase every bottle of nutes. With growing organically/live soil, one doesn't even really need to purchase anything unless they live in a desert. Besides a couple top dressings and a few fermented teas through out the year my plants/soil receive basically nothing but water.

As far as things I've bought specifically for the soil/nutrition this year, I'm at like maybe $50. And that's for 9 plants outdoors (medium/large plants). If I was growing with salts I feel that price would be much higher.





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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: koods]
    #26946284 - 09/20/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Nah it’s definitely a type of mold. There are orange spores. I’m thinking rust

Anyone experienced? From what I’d read this is going to be a losing battle? I’m thinking of just harvesting now as opposed to losing it all. It seems like this is very aggressive and it can’t be stopped.
I saw one or two spots two days ago and now it’s on nearly every leaf. Every night the plant is going to get wet. Theees nothing I can do about that. That’s just the nature of nighttime in September. I can’t even possibly monitor this plant closely. It’s ten feet tall, there’s just too much real estate and 1/3 of it is out of reach






I've never had to deal with any mold/mildew/fungi issues, it's pretty dry in my area until the very tail end of the grow season.

So I can't say from experience....

But that "Dr. Zymes" stuff I've been using to combat mites is also a "fungicide" and claims to be effective against mold/mildew as well. That's the only thing that comes to my mind that might be effective and can be used during flowering. I'm not too savvy on the issue of mold/mildew/fungi tho.

I don't know what you have going on specifically, what exactly the issue is....but I've heard good things about the stuff being used for various insect and fungal/mold issues...Check the product website to see if there are any stores in your area that carry it, or it can be ordered online.

I feel harvesting now would be much too early for most plants/strains in most locations in the US....But ya gotta do what ya gotta do. As long as it isn't impacting the development of the resin/buds specifically I'd let em' keep going for a bit. But again, I've never dealt with such an issue so I don't know how it impacts the buds/resin in particular.






I'm actually about to pick up another quart of the stuff today :yesnod: ...My plants continue to develop well over all and all the tops/main colas are quite frosted with resin. I'm actually quite surprised at the trichome density and amount of resin some of them have considering the mites impacted their initial development and the plants/buds went basically an entire month with out any direct sunshine because of the smoke blocking out the sun....but yesterday I started to notice a few lower/small buds on a couple plants that are showing signs of mites so I need to stay on top of it (I ran out of the first bottle almost a week ago).

But the flowers on my plants have received their first days of direct sunshine the past few days (smoke has been so thick the past few weeks that it's been dim/dark outside during the day), 3 days ago was the first time I've seen the sun and blue sky in over a month...My plants/flowers and I are looooving it lol . It's crazy how much the flowers have swelled up the past few days and how much resin they're packing on now that they're receiving the full spectrum of direct sunlight.

I'm expecting my first plants to be ready for harvest around the 10th of next month, the rest probably won't be ready until around Oct 20th to November 10th. Glad they'll be finishing up over a broad stretch of time and not all around the same week because I don't have much space to hang/dry them (my closet lol). Not a large space but I think it'll work out with the plants finishing at different times. I think I'm going to hang up some "chicken wire" or a mesh screen of some sort in my closet, that way I basically have an entire "wall" that I can hang branches onto.


There's a bunch of other posts I've been meaning to reply to in this thread, just been busy lately and haven't had the time or energy to do so.




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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #26951085 - 09/23/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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To all the people dealing with spider mites with a whole bunch of expensive or poisonous or unhealthy products, I had an infestation outdoors about a week ago, drenched the plants with 70% isopropyl with  a spray bottle, after that I did the same with 5% strength (not kidding, diluted a 30% to 5% in the sprayer, I know, it's high) peroxide.....






Did you dilute the alcohol at all?


Before I got a bottle of that enzyme/citric acid based stuff that I've been using to deal with mites (which seems to be working wonderfully) I used a mixture of rosemary essential oil, lavender essential oil, castile soap, and iso-alcohol...and that wiped them out for the most part.

A lot of the miticides that people suggested and those that I was looking at are basically just that, a mixture of essential oils and some soap/emulsifier and alcohol along with a huge price tag slapped on it.

From the bit of reading I did, seems rosemary EO in particular is great for killing mites and eggs...Many essential oils will do the trick tho.

Within a day after applying the mixture on my plants I couldn't smell any signs of rosemary or lavender at all. The amounts I used were 15ml of essential oils, 5ml of castile soap, and 15ml of 70% iso diluted into about 1500ml of water.

The mixture did cause some phytotoxic damage/burn marks on a couple of my plants a little bit, nothing severe tho.





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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #26956161 - 09/26/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, I diluted it from 99 to 70% like I stated; then I sprayed the fuck out of em.





I didn't catch that part....I assumed you were working with 70% iso to start with and was wondering if that was diluted.







For anyone that is savvy with salts, do you have anything to say about this?.....I'm thinking about using a small amount of this stuff on one or two of my plants via foliar just out of curiosity.

The "salt substitute" stuff that's sold in stores is composed of potassium chloride, fumaric acid, monocalcium phosphate, and silocone dioxide.

Seems like a nice source of potassium, phosphorous, calcium, and silicone :shrug: ...and it's only $2 . And aren't those some of the same common salts that are found in bottled hydro nutes? (just way cheaper in price)

I plan on sticking with a live soil/organic approach to growing my plants and I won't ever put salts into my soil, but I have been very curious about using small amounts of salts via foliar :strokebeard: .

I'm curious about diluting the stuff tho....I was thinking about using 1 teaspoon per gallon of water?









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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: koods]
    #26956233 - 09/26/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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It’s probably almost entirely potassium chloride






Yea that too....

There's no way to know the actual ratio/content of each salt in that product. I figured it was probably mostly one of the salts and only traces of the others.

I read the label of that product while at a store a few days ago and what it is composed of caught my attention and had me thinking about using a bit of it via foliar lol.





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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #26960383 - 09/29/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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welp, mites came back for me.  Looking like im just gonna take more cuttings this weekend and nuke the moms to start over.  At this point it just seems to be the best option and i dont want to waste any more time.





Damn...

Sry to hear dude.

I was wondering how that situation was going for ya.


I seem to have my situation with the russet mites pretty much under control at this point. It's been a little over a month since I first spotted them. The first few applications of the Dr. Zymes seemed to wipe them out enough for my buds to start to develop properly (about 3 applications over a 10 day period). Then I ran out of the stuff and went 6 days with out spraying any, and on the 21st I started to spot signs of them again on some lower buds on two plants. I got another bottle and sprayed more Dr. Zymes on the 22nd and once again last night. At this point I feel I should be able to cruise into harvest with out them coming back, I just plan on spraying the zymes every 5 days or so from here on out.






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How close do you think this one is Liz Wiz?






A week tops, but that horizontal bud in the middle of the first pic could use another week or 2 for sure.





Before reading your reply/answer, I took a moment to think about how much longer I feel those have to go...and I too thought it looks to have about 7 more days, 9 at most.

Looks killer!






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.....and when plants are overfed (they say even when it happens at the beginning of the bloom stage) all those nutrients that have been given in excess give rise to hard to light weed with an acrid smoke, burning in the throat and/or leaving you with a cough or a scratch.





Over the years I've definitely come across some herb that is like that and I've always wondered what the deal was. Doesn't burn well, has a relatively harsh & hot smoke, and sometimes there is even a sizzle and or crackle/pop as the herb burns.

I always figured it was caused by a plant that was pumped up full of too much nutes :shrug: , and even a "proper" cure won't fix it (nor a flush).


My herb last year was super smooth...The smoke was thick and very oily/resinous and expansive, I'd blow out some of the thickest & most oily clouds of smoke but it was silky smooth on the throat & lungs. Left nothing but a light fluffy ash behind.






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #26960449 - 09/29/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I've never harvested at the time advertised as harvest time. :shrug:

I go by trichomes too, weird.






When you harvest, are your buds still pushing out fresh new pistils at all? Or have pistils usually stopped emerging entirely by the time you harvest? Or is this quite variable depending on the strain?



I have one plant right now that has mostly stopped pushing out new pistils as of the past few days (just a few at the tips of the buds, the rest are red/brown) and the buds don't appear to be growing larger any more or at least not at the rate they were swelling up before....So by looking at the pistils and the buds as a "whole" they appear pretty much ripe and ready for harvest, but the trichomes still appear mostly clear/milky .


Should one be paying more attention to pistils or trichomes? I feel that if a bud is still pushing out new pistils then it still has time to go, and if a bud isn't pushing out any new pistils then it has essentially stopped developing...???


The past two years I've paid more attention to the pistils and the way the buds looked as a "whole" rather than going off the trichomes specifically...I harvest when it just looks ripe to my eyes :shrug: . (I usually let em' go for at least a few days beyond the point I think they're ready).

Last year there was such a drastic difference in the amount of terps/resin/aroma/flavor/potency between my two Thin Mint plants that were harvested about a week apart. The plant that I let go just a bit longer packed on a ridiculous amount of resin/terps during those last few days. After seeing that it's made me want to let my plants go as long as I can lol.







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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: LizardWizard]
    #26972188 - 10/06/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Nice Liz...Is that Strawberry Cough in all of those pics?

Looks yummy. I actually saw some Strawberry Cough at the weed store last week, it's been a long time since I've seen or heard anything about that strain (back around 2005 to 2010-ish it was around my area a lot).

One of the "mystery seed" plants I grew this year has buds that have a bit of a mildly sweet strawberry-like essence to em' .

It looks like you trim while fresh rather than after drying?

I remove fan leaves at harvest but I don't trim until the colas have dried.





I took down my first two plants last night around 3am...The Vanilla Frosting and the Granimals.

We've had a stretch of warm weather the past week or so (day temps around 95 degrees) and it seems like the plants are really hurrying up to be harvested. If we didn't have so many days of relatively dim red filtered sunlight from the smoke in the air I feel these plants would have likely gone at least another week or so. I think the smoky days/red sunlight may have shortened up the season a bit in my area :shrug: .

I was hoping for and had my fingers crossed for at least a few days of pure full spectrum sunlight shining on my plants before they got the chop, and that's exactly what we've had over the past 5 days or so. Crystal clear sunshine and hot days. All of my plants seem to be in "fast forward" and are ripening up much quicker than I anticipated.

I'll be taking down two more plants tonight and/or tomorrow night (Sour D X Lemon Kush, and Capstone).....and then my big in ground Lemon Wookie Glue plant in 3 days or so, and then my other big in ground plant in probably 5 to 7 days. The Strawberry Banana and the Wedding Cake will be the last to come down, they're both barely in the middle of flowering at this point and prob won't be ready until the very end of this month.

The straw-nana and the Wedding Cake smell so dang good tho....The resin on the SB straight up smelled literally exactly like bubble gum when it first started to develop, it's crazy! The SB is also one of the most resinous strains I've grown if not thee most resinous strain I've ever grown, it became coated with tons of thick sticky terpy resin pretty much right from the beginning of flowering, the only other strain I've grown that is on par with this amount of resin is the "Slymer" I grew two years ago.

The SB still does have that full on bubblegum essence underneath but has more distinct berry & banana notes popping out now, first time I've smelled "banana" in cannabis (tho I kno there's been several strains with that essence over the years). And the Wedding Cake has a super complex smell that I can't get enough of, it's deep & complex like a cologne, but it has some nutty-chocolaty notes (reminds me very much of nutella/hazelnut) along with fresh baked cake/buttery smells, along with pine/kush notes on the back end, really complex tho there's a lot going on in that aroma. I always wanted to smell the fresh live resin of Wedding Cake lol, finally got to!





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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: mushroomnate]
    #26974791 - 10/08/20 01:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Sounds like you have your hands full in the midst of croptober @openmind!
I love a good Strawnana!





I've known about the Straw-nana strain for a while but growing this plant is actually the first time I've seen & smelled the stuff and first time I'll be smoking it. I'm not the biggest fan of straight up fruity strains and expected it to be a different type of SB smell so I never picked it out from the store or from my weed dude when they've had it, but the fresh resin on the plant is much more like a classic bubble gum essence (I can def smell the banana & berry in there too tho).


But indeed!....Croptober is in full swing here. :yesnod:

I've been at it for 3 hours tonight taking off fan leaves, chopping colas, and hanging them up. I've got 2 plants down so far tonight and decided to take a break and smoke a bowl and hop on here for a bit at an hour that's odd for me to be posting lol.

I was planning on also taking down one of my big in-ground plants entirely tonight but I'm feeling doneski for the night and when I checked the time after I came back inside it was waaaay later than I thought it was (I was "in the zone" and didn't realize how long I had been at it pinching leaves and chopping branches lol).

I think I'm going to try to get at least a chunk of that plant done, go at it for an hour or so and then call it a night.....

.....it's crazy how long it can take to take down a plant, at least for me. I don't know how long it usually takes someone to take down a plant and get the goods hung up since I've never helped anyone or worked on a grow with harvesting, but sheesh. It's like a meditation for me tho (getting in the zone lol) and a "touch down" of sorts bringing part of the cycle to an end. Hoping I can get the dry & cure dialed in a lil better this year.




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    #26977067 - 10/09/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My closet is currently chock full of hanging buds....


I've got like 40 feet of twine strung up in there and each line of twine is completely filled from wall to wall with 10 to 12+ inch long colas/tops.

Problem is...I still have one big plant that I need to take down within the next 72 hours lol. I'm going to have to figure out a way to rig up at least two more lines of twine in there.

This is sooo much more flower than I've had the previous years...fuckin' eh lol.

My hash bags will be getting a proper work out this fall :grin: . And I'll be using straight up flowers instead of trim/larf.



I spotted a caterpillar/bud worm of sorts on the outside of one of my buds yesterday (on one of the few plants I still have going), it was actually one of the only times I've seen them on a plant and not just signs of their damage (I squashed em' right away)...But other than that I haven't really noticed any signs of caterpillars in my buds this year at all (fingers crossed I don't find out when it comes time to trim). I was so caught up in the situation with mites and other things going on I didn't apply any BT this year, tho I did apply spinosad pretty heavily two times at the beginning of Aug.





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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: koods]
    #26978554 - 10/10/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Fuck, I hate those caterpillar/inch worm assholes. They only got like two handfuls of bud this year which is much better than last year. The trick to finding them is looking for their little black droppings or discolored buds if they have been there for a while.

I just bought a really nice 6'x6'x6'6" greenhouse for my wife and it only cost about $350. I'm going try a few Auto-flower plants in there during the winter to see how they do.....





They can be devastating :yesnod: .

I usually spot them (or their damage rather) by seeing a tiny dead/brown/dry leaf poking out from the bud, or a tiny brown spot on the bud....pulling on the dead leaf or the brown spot usually pulls out a chunk of dead/rotted bud. I'll dig into and cut out all the nasty rot from the bud.

And yesterday afternoon that's exactly what I spotted...A little brown spot on the bud, I pulled the bud apart and right in the middle of this fat beer-bottle sized bud was a teeny tiny 1/4 inch long caterpillar/worm. And of course causing the bud to rot. I cut the entire top off that bud.

I went over most of the plant and couldn't spot any other signs of them inside the buds, tho I am expecting to find some more damage/rot from them I'm just hoping they haven't got into too many of them.

The worst is when one harvests what looks to be immaculate dank chunky frosted buds, but then finds a bunch of rot/mold from caterpillars inside the buds when they start to trim and break down the colas.

I'm very curious to see how that winter time autoflower grow goes for you, I've thought about doing the same thing but after the winter solstice. If possible I'd def try to give em' a lil bit of supplemental light...Days are short and the sun is relatively dim, but bay area winters can be pretty mild and sunny :yesnod: . And ruderalis genetics tend to be hardy and cold tolerant.




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Those caterpillars, are those from the small white butterflies? I haven't seen any festing on buds, they seem to enjoy my strawberries' leaves more than the weed leaves, and never seen them IN a bud, but are they really caterpillars or another type of worm-like bug larvae?....





I'm not sure what species it is...That is something I've wondered about though, what the species of butterfly/moth/caterpillar that outdoor growers in my area deal with. Probably a few different types.

There is a small brown/golden butterfly that I often see landing on my plants during late summer & fall...I rarely ever see any other butterfly landing on my plants so that might be the one. At night I've spotted a few moths on my plants too.

These bastards eat their way directly into the buds and then shit inside the buds which spreads rot, I wish they just stuck to the leaves lol. I've noticed they also tend to target the most prime fattest dank buds on the plant, and they go right into the heart of it.






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I've been smelling this Wild Rose plant for weeks now, every time I smelled it on the plant it was a hard to put your finger on green scent with some weird funk underneath that really escaped all designation efforts.

Now that it's drying the green scent is still there, but it has calmed from a fresh green to a more faded green, and it's less present and less mysterious, though not less interesting, as it is followed by a funk that I can only describe as strongly animalistic. No exactly musky, but more reminiscent of horse sweat, a stable impregnated with carbolineum, and the smell of cured leather. I've just picked a few buds from the drying plant so I can put them in a slightly warmer place as I'm very tempted to find out how it's scent translates in a smoke...


description onine says citrus and gummy bears aroma, won a couple cups for best indoor strain so should give it a run down Artisun lane.

edit: it's dried out now, smells like a slightly herbaceous cured leather now. Smoke report in a bit.





At first I thought you were describing an actual rose plant lol...So that's the name of the strain, "Wild Rose"?

Interesting aroma/essence.


The plant I grew from a seed that I pulled out of my "Thin Mint" bud from last year has a bit of an unique aroma that I haven't smelled much of before in cannabis...I can't really put my finger on it or explain it, but it's got some sandalwood/sweet and onion/herb notes. There are some notes/components of the aroma that I have smelled before in cannabis, but the overall essence as a whole I've never smelled before ever. It's not the most pleasant smell and when it first started to flower it actually kinda stunk, but I think it might turn out to be some very tasty smoke.

I'm looking forward to smelling what it cures into.

And not to keep rambling on about aromas...but I got some "Biscotti" for the first time yesterday (Gelato #25 X Girl Scout Cookies X South Florida OG), and it straight up smelled like a spiced christmas cookie. I've never smelled such a rich "spice" like smell in cannabis before, straight up like cinnamon and cardamom and sugar cookie. Smells like I walked into a coffee shop or a bakery during christmas. Really complex aroma tho. There is one note/component of the essence that triggers some real deep nostalgia for me, it's an aroma I smelled as a kid but I can't remember what it was or when/where I smelled it.







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We’re about to get the remnants of Hurricane delta. Heavy rain and moderate wind and I’ve alreay got this girl tied down in a bunch of places but these buds are really weighing her down.

I’m thinking about harvesting. Unless I support each branch they’re gonna break






Those buds are looking pretty chunky. Nice.

Hard to tell from the pic but looks like the buds are getting close to being properly ripe if not already.

What sort of smell do the buds have? And what strain or genetics does that plant have? I know I've probably asked you a few times but I always forget lol...IIRC it was some sort of afghan strain or from some seeds you made last year?






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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: koods]
    #26987398 - 10/15/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Any suggestions for curing and storing a few pounds of herb?


The past two years I've used glass quart sized jars, but this time around I'll have a lot more to store.

I like the "clean" aspects of glass and how the jars seal very well.

I was thinking about just getting larger jars and more of them. I really do like glass, tho that will cost more than totes or bags.

Plastic turkey bags seems like a cheap option but I feel like plastic-film materials don't really "seal" completely and let out some essence. I'm not a fan of plastic in general but it's something I thought about.

Same thing with plastic totes/typical storage containers....I don't know of any that seal completely and I feel that sort of plastic will off-gas a bit or have a mild plastic smell to em'.


I think that covers the most common things used but I'm open to hear about ways that curing & storing relatively "large" (large for a personal grow, a few pounds) amounts of herb can be done.





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Re: Cannabis Growers [Re: ChikhaiBardo]
    #26990072 - 10/17/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.....


I think I'm just going to stick with glass jars. A few dozen quart and 1/2 gallon size jars should be enough to store most of my herb.

I'm trimming and storing only my tops and most prime buds, everything else will be going into hash and edibles...so that will save me some space and $ on storage containers.



For curing the herb from my big plants I think I'm going to use brown paper grocery bags. IIRC I've heard about people using paper bags for curing, seems like a cheap option...Filling the bags up 1/4 to 1/3 of the way with the top rolled down & folded closed. I feel that should slow the drying down and allow the herb to cure a bit. After spending some time in those bags I'll then trim, the tops will go into jars for storage and everything else will go into hash or edibles/infused oils.





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    #26991361 - 10/18/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't interpret that as not being able to name breeders, just seedbanks.





That's the way I always looked at it too....:shrug:

One of the breeders I grew seeds from this time around is "Equilibrium Genetics", but they're not a vendor and they don't sell seeds. I got the seeds from a weed store that I walked into.





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    #26992968 - 10/19/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Today is week 10 day 1. At this point I am just working on flushing and ripening the buds up. Once the trichs are where I want them, I will give them their 3-5 days in the dark to reduce nutes in the buds(plants store their nutes in the roots when in dark period, so this helps keep nutes out of what I cut off. It also helps to increase a little late resin production, as well as help start killing off the chlorophyll, for a smoother smoke.







Right on.


Those buds are looking pretty chunky & fat for indoor :yesnod: .

What strain? What sort of aroma/essence does it have?







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Couple more shots of the Jah Goo x Larry OG (created by a friend of mine who is definitely not a breeder or vendor so don't censor me bros). :lol:


I made this selection from some F1s, so this is just a tester. So far me likey.






Nice!

I really like the parents/genetics behind that one, both of those parents are varieties I enjoy a lot.


I was hoping the "Sour D X Lemon Kush" I grew this year was going to have a bit of that classic Kush/OG essence to it but it doesn't at all. Next time around I really want to grow one of the classic OGs (Larry, Tahoe, SFV, Fire, Rascal, etc etc etc..).

I looove that earthy, skunky, rubber, pinesol, jet fuel essence of an OG. To me that's like the quintessential "dank weed" essence.

The "Lemon Wookie Glue" I grew has some of it going on (lemon, pine, gas), but not quite like an OG.





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    #27002713 - 10/25/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Croptober has been in full swing here for me lately....

I had a short 3 day window a couple weeks ago where I was able to get out and go camping way up in the Sierra for a few days while my closet was full of buds hanging to dry and my other plants continued to ripen up.

The timing of my plants finishing at different times worked out nicely because my closet was literally packed full after taking down my first plants...I strung up 6 lines of twine in my closet and each line had 10 to 12+ inch colas/branches hanging from wall to wall, around 40 to 50 feet of line at least

I'll be taking down a portion of my last plant tonight and then the rest of it a couple days later, the Wedding Cake :drooling: .

I'm not even trimming my herb much this year at all and it's still taking a while to break everything down. I've been at it for 3 to 4 hours each day for the past 10 days and still have a chunk to go through. Once it's dry I break the buds off the branches and give them a quick "once over" trim with my fingers (I prefer using my fingers much more so than any scissors) and then into the jars they go. For the most part I'm keeping only the top 1/3rd to 1/2 of the colas/branches for my smoke, the rest will be going into bubble hash.


Everything has been looking pretty alright so far tho....Some of it is pretty dank :yesnod: . Only a few colas have had a few spots of caterpillar damage. And there's a tiny bit of rot in the center of some of the buds from the Granimals. I think two of my plants might have had a "dudding" disease of sorts but I'm not sure (buds are frosted but have almost no aroma/essence to them and the plants seemed a bit stunted)...Overall so far I'm happy with this years crop. It could have been better, no doubt the yield and quality was impacted by the mites and smoky days to an extent, but I'm very happy to have something to harvest at all and even impressed with some of the tops considering it all :yesnod: .

I'll give a full comprehensive ramble about my grow this year when everything is officially settled for the season (trimmed, jarred, & cured for a month or two...and after the hash has been made). I might even finally post some pics lol.


The plant I grew that came from a seed that I found in my Thin Mint buds last year, it turned out to be fuego! Probably the best plant I've ever grown, I wish I took a clone of it and wish I knew who the father/pollen source was but it produced some quality flower/resin and has nice potency & high. I'll give a long ramble about that plant specifically some other time lol.




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