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Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer * 2
    #25126026 - 04/09/18 02:56 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like there is another NON RUSSIA FBI investigation into Donald Trump that is serious enough to justify seizing documents from Michael Cohen's law practice. Mueller referred the investigation, so we do know Trump is the client involved.

Things just got very interesting. Keep in mind that the threshold for a raid on a legal office is significantly higher than a raid on a business. Whatever is going on, it is serious enough for a judge to sign off on a warrant.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/fbi-raids-office-of-trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.amp.html


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: koods] * 2
    #25126031 - 04/09/18 02:58 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

:justcantwait:


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: koods]
    #25126052 - 04/09/18 03:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Looks like there is another NON RUSSIA FBI investigation into Donald Trump that is serious enough to justify seizing documents from Michael Cohen's law practice. Mueller referred the investigation, so we do know Trump is the client involved.

Things just got very interesting. Keep in mind that the threshold for a raid on a legal office is significantly higher than a raid on a business. Whatever is going on, it is serious enough for a judge to sign off on a warrant.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/politics/fbi-raids-office-of-trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.amp.html



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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25126054 - 04/09/18 03:07 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

It's a mobile link it seems.


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25126060 - 04/09/18 03:09 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Does for me

Try this

https://nyti.ms/2HljKJB


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: Tmethyl]
    #25126064 - 04/09/18 03:10 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Trump dindu nuffin wrong. :crankey:


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: koods]
    #25126069 - 04/09/18 03:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Does for me

Try this

https://nyti.ms/2HljKJB



Works.  So this is about stormy?


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25126102 - 04/09/18 03:21 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Could be stormy daniels, although this kind of raid would not be approved for FEC violations. Apparently tax documents were seized in multiple locations. One thing to consider is that if evidence of money laundering by trump arose, this is the kind of action one might expect to see.

Everyone from fox to MSNBC seems to agree that this kind of raid (on a law office) would not be approved unless potentially serious crimes were supported by very significant evidence.

What seems to be clear is this doesn't have anything to do with Russia, but the evidence of the crimes were discovered during the Russian investIgation.

Trump is in trouble.


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: koods]
    #25126104 - 04/09/18 03:23 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Could be stormy daniels, although this kind of raid would not be approved for FEC violations. Apparently tax documents were seized in multiple locations. One thing to consider is that if evidence of money laundering by trump arose, this is the kind of action one might expect to see.

Everyone from fox to MSNBC seems to agree that this kind of raid (on a law office) would not be approved unless potentially serious crimes were supported by very significant evidence.

What seems to be clear is this doesn't have anything to do with Russia, but the evidence of the crimes were discovered during the Russian investIgation.

Trump is in trouble.



Do you smell impeachment a brewing?


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
    #25126121 - 04/09/18 03:31 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Idk. I prefer he be prosecuted for any crimes after he leaves office. Donald trump should die in prison , not simply be a disgraced president.


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: koods] * 1
    #25126148 - 04/09/18 03:42 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Just more evidence the Mueller investigation actually is a witch hunt on the trail for literally anything and everything. I've had my doubts about the FOX News rhetoric on this matter, but this just doesn't look right. Anyone looking at this objectively and unbiased has got to think something fishy is up with Mueller and his investigation. I've thought it was a dumb idea to have a second special counsel investigate another special counsel, Mueller, but now I think it's the only option after this stunt. Someone has to reign this jockey in and get him to focus on his mandate.

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Could be stormy daniels, although this kind of raid would not be approved for FEC violations. Apparently tax documents were seized in multiple locations. One thing to consider is that if evidence of money laundering by trump arose, this is the kind of action one might expect to see.

Everyone from fox to MSNBC seems to agree that this kind of raid (on a law office) would not be approved unless potentially serious crimes were supported by very significant evidence.

What seems to be clear is this doesn't have anything to do with Russia, but the evidence of the crimes were discovered during the Russian investIgation.

Trump is in trouble.





They did not seize Trump's tax records. They seized Cohen's. The only thing related to Trump that was taken were communications between Trump and Cohen, which are actually protected from scrutiny in most cases. This is, IMO, a last ditch effort to shake the tree and see what falls out. I think what they might find is petty stuff. Again communications between Trump and his lawyer will almost definitely be unusable.


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: LRG]
    #25126176 - 04/09/18 03:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Why do you think that information would be unusable? If they obtained the information lawfully and review it lawfully, and they find what they're looking for, then it should be fair game. I think it's fair to suspect other money's been laundered through this guy if trump launders his payments to old affairs through him. I suspect they have good justification to go digging through all the stuff they got from Cohen, and they'll almost definitely find something if this Cohen's been doing this kind of shit for decades.


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: LRG]
    #25126182 - 04/09/18 03:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

You don't get a warrant to seize documents from a law office unless you have very strong evidence of a crime.


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: koods]
    #25126198 - 04/09/18 04:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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You don't get a warrant to seize documents from a law office unless you have very strong evidence of a crime.




:whathesaid:

Not just on his office either, on his home and the hotel he was staying in. Plus it was a no knock raid.

This makes it seem very likely Cohen has taken questionable or downright illegal actions for Trump.

It could just be the Stormy payoff, but it could be a lot more:

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seizing records related to several topics including payments to a pornographic-film actress.




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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: LRG] * 1
    #25126209 - 04/09/18 04:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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Just more evidence the Mueller investigation actually is a witch hunt on the trail for literally anything and everything. I've had my doubts about the FOX News rhetoric on this matter, but this just doesn't look right. Anyone looking at this objectively and unbiased has got to think something fishy is up with Mueller and his investigation. I've thought it was a dumb idea to have a second special counsel investigate another special counsel, Mueller, but now I think it's the only option after this stunt. Someone has to reign this jockey in and get him to focus on his mandate.

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Could be stormy daniels, although this kind of raid would not be approved for FEC violations. Apparently tax documents were seized in multiple locations. One thing to consider is that if evidence of money laundering by trump arose, this is the kind of action one might expect to see.

Everyone from fox to MSNBC seems to agree that this kind of raid (on a law office) would not be approved unless potentially serious crimes were supported by very significant evidence.

What seems to be clear is this doesn't have anything to do with Russia, but the evidence of the crimes were discovered during the Russian investIgation.

Trump is in trouble.





They did not seize Trump's tax records. They seized Cohen's. The only thing related to Trump that was taken were communications between Trump and Cohen, which are actually protected from scrutiny in most cases. This is, IMO, a last ditch effort to shake the tree and see what falls out. I think what they might find is petty stuff. Again communications between Trump and his lawyer will almost definitely be unusable.



Mueller's has HAD trump's taxes for a long time. They also have the emails between Cohen and trump. This is not about the porn star NDA, this is something bigger and far more important.

Who is liddle dick going to fire tonight?


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #25126211 - 04/09/18 04:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Very unlikely that an FEC violation could trigger a no knock raid. FEC violations are not even criminal, they are civil.

Cohen making payments on behalf of trump js kinda money laundering, tho.


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: koods]
    #25126221 - 04/09/18 04:21 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Washington Post reports; Bank fraud, Wire Fraud, and the election.

Cohen is a law firm is a client of one.


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #25126239 - 04/09/18 04:29 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Trump just leaves a wake of destruction and misery for anyone who gets involved with him and his business.


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: koods]
    #25126245 - 04/09/18 04:31 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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koods said:
Could be stormy daniels, although this kind of raid would not be approved for FEC violations. Apparently tax documents were seized in multiple locations. One thing to consider is that if evidence of money laundering by trump arose, this is the kind of action one might expect to see.

Everyone from fox to MSNBC seems to agree that this kind of raid (on a law office) would not be approved unless potentially serious crimes were supported by very significant evidence.

What seems to be clear is this doesn't have anything to do with Russia, but the evidence of the crimes were discovered during the Russian investIgation.

Trump is in trouble.




No, Mueller is in trouble, he's overstepping here. Trump can now fire his ass in the clear.


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Re: Feds raid the office of Trump's personal lawyer [Re: sweeper54]
    #25126247 - 04/09/18 04:31 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Get a good seat, and watch the Fireworks over DC tonight, the sick puppy is going to blow a gasket soon.


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