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ds442
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Re: Anyone into modifying cars on here? [Re: ds442]
#25207899 - 05/16/18 12:49 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Spent 8 hours washing and polishing then it started raining just as I was finishing. It rained for a few days. Got it all washed and shiny. It looks damn good for being 21 years old.
I wasn't really feeling it till I got the hood painted. Now I'm loving it.
If you are looking for some good car care products. Check out Adam's Polishes. Great products and everything is made in the USA.
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Re: Anyone into modifying cars on here? [Re: ds442]
#25209249 - 05/16/18 11:53 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Very much so. I am a Toyota man myself. Rebuilding the 22re in my 88 pickup. Going to pick me up another 2nd gen yota and swap in a 1uzfe V8. Ideally a 2wd single cab short bed. Keep it relatively low, not slammed. My goal is at 330whp. My dream is a first gen celica with a 2jzgte.
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I have no idea what any of that is. Sounds nice though. 330 whp in that truck should move pretty good.
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Re: Anyone into modifying cars on here? [Re: ds442]
#25212893 - 05/18/18 03:03 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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The 1uzfe is a Lexus V8. It's really popular with toyota guys. All aluminium so it's light. Earlier models are even non-interferance engines which is nice. It's compact for what it is and it can be had for like 500 bucks if you look hard enough. The m90 supercharger from mid 2000s terminator mustangs fit on the 1uz so there's several supercharged Lexus v8 toyota mini trucks out there.
The 22re is the little 4 banger found in the older pickups and 4runners. Widely regarded as one of the most bulletproof and reliable engines. They have a huge cult following as well.
None quite as ubiquitous as the 2jz fans. Arguably he greatest engine ever built as far as tuning potential.
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Quote:
Gonzo the Eternal said: Arguably he greatest engine ever built as far as tuning potential.
Disagree. Nissan RB26 is better IMO. Admittedly there's not much in it but I'd definitely go RB26 given the choice.
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Re: Anyone into modifying cars on here? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#25220047 - 05/22/18 03:57 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well I did say arguably haha but when you consider the 2j is cheaper, stronger, has a better aftermarket and is much more common I think that is the definition of better. RB26 has to be imported so it does have a cool factor. And it's by no means a bad engine. Top 10 in my book
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Hey, Look at that bitch in the Trans Am.

I am loving my car now. It is in such good shape. No rust at all even underneath. I got the modding bug again. I ordered a bird for the back window. The one on the hoods of the older ones. It is just the outline so you can see through it. Should look good. In between the tail lights it says trans am and a bird underneath is black and you can't really see it. I'm getting decals to go over that. Underneath that it says pontiac indented which you can hardly see. Decals to go in there. Then I think I will put some stripes on the hood scoops. I seen a picture of one and it looked sweet.
Then performance mods. I will be moving to California and I know it is strict there. I want at least 700 to the wheels. See what this LT1 can do. The only thing I hate about this motor. They put the distributor on the front of the engine behind the water pump. That's some shit you find on foreign cars. Stupid.
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Re: Anyone into modifying cars on here? [Re: ds442]
#25226738 - 05/24/18 11:25 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's a good motor though even though it has dumb design in some places haha how do you feel about boost?
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I like superchargers. With a big cam and good heads and intake. I could get there. Of course the trans will have to be upgraded as well. I think I will buy a beater while I work on it.
A couple more pics of the G8.

Damn I miss that car.
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Re: Anyone into modifying cars on here? [Re: ds442]
#25249676 - 06/05/18 08:48 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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A pic of the bird on the back window. I have the other decals on as well but I messed up the tail light the other day so I don't want to take a pic of it. $125 for a used tail light. I seen them for $ 350. I think it looks good. I have to wait till next month for the racing stripes because the hood just got painted.
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Re: Anyone into modifying cars on here? [Re: ds442]
#25253160 - 06/06/18 10:22 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've always liked that logo. Looks super sick my man. And I've always really liked the g8. I've seen some crazy g8s out there haha
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I love the G8. If I had the money I would get the same car and do the same things.
I think it looks really good on the Trans Am. I got a new tail light but it is tinted. I think they came that way on the firehawks. Not sure. I ordered some tint for the other one so they will match. It's been raining so I will post a pic of the back soon. It looks good with all the other decals.
I got the racing stripes coming and a few other decals as well. I have to wait a couple more weeks to put the stripes on. Then I'm going to wax the whole car. I hope the stripes look good. Otherwise it will be a waste of 110.
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Re: Anyone into modifying cars on here? [Re: ds442]
#25263734 - 06/12/18 02:54 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Anyone into modifying cars on here? [Re: ds442]
#25263770 - 06/12/18 03:21 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's the car with the slotted rotors DS?
She's sexy. Cars like that have such a strong nostalgia feel to them. I remember where I was when that body style first came out and I had such stronger feelings about cars when I was younger.
Like, few cars that come out now, will I drool over in 30 years, I won't be 60 wishing for a 2018 Chevy Cobalt. Or, to really drive them point home, any of the modern sports cars by and large
Corvettes got ugly Camaros are throwing back to the old days with Dodge and everyone else, even the BMW sports cars I loved so much turned to shit
No, people will remember the Toyota Prius and the Honda Civic from this era. Makes sense tho, change in fuel prices and outlook on emissions
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Cobalts stopped existing 8 years ago.
Which BMW sports car did you love?
And what do you mean Camaro is throwing back to the old days woth Dodge? Is that a bad thing? Isn't the old style what you like?
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No what I'm saying is since every vehicle now is a throwback to the old cars, no modern cars now will ever be classics. It's impossible. If u liked a xx charger that was inspired by the original charger, well it's the original that was the classic and the later is the revival.
E60 M5. I forget tbe years I used to be a huge auto nerd back in the day. Mine was 08. Busted my ass for years and bought one.
E46 M3 was a beast as well. It wasn't just about power, the successors out power them which is always the case. It was about how the power was created (pre turbos by badass ingenious technologies that made me beam with pride). How the car looked.
And also, it was about my overall point how cars are nostalgic as long as it's not bullshit cash grabs. They were distinct cars with distinct personalities at the time when I worked there, it was a bonding.
Some of the recent revival cars I like. Some I don't. But no matter what I say it's a cash grab bc some of these companies have talent working there and they are capable of coming up with new car designs that will become the new nostalgia for 10 year olds today.
Many, like always will make bad designs and flounder, a FWD Cadillac that was shabby in quality and boxy like a chevette in the 80s comes to mind, a knee jerk reaction to the Asian 80s invasian and they're cheap purchase price and high fuel economy. And that was before the Catera! But that's how things go it's the jungle of evolution not all survive.
Unless all throw back to their roots and cash grab on an old design. Which is still risky, it's all risk.
But poor kids today.
Heck poor kids 200 years from now. They'll only hear the rumble of a fully tuned alcohol dragster in museum's. Probably the same with all high performance cars if not all internal combustion engines period.
They're only 30% efficient AT BEST and that's assuming 100% volumetric efficiency which is non existent on production cars even in racing versions unless they're forced induction.
Internal combustion engines utilize heat energy, essentially. We burn fuel for the heat, the expanding gases that push the Piston down.
Well 30% goes out exhaust valve down tailpipe and 30% is absorbed thru cooling jackets and blown into the atmosphere by your radiator and fan.
External combustion engines were even worse that's why they don't exist post steam age.
It's all how deep u look at it I guess
Touche on the cobalt
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We'll the modern charger has no ties to the old one. It's a sedan now:/
But I agree. They don't make cars like they uses to. I disagree a bit in that I can see some modern cars being classics soon. But not many. I only like cars 2000 and before. And most companies keep the parts of their cars that made them famous back in the day. Challengers, mustangs, camaro are all throwbacks in a way because they have to be. They can't abandon what made the car famous in the 60s. Then again Dodge doesn't give a shit. The Charger is a sedan and the Dart is the new Cavalier. Gross.
And the Ms will always be some of my favorite. Especially the e46. That's a classic. They are still great cars but they aren't the driving machines they used to be. No soul.
But nobody is going to give a shit about a Veloster in 15 years. They don't make cars to last 50 years as a brand. Like a mustang or an m3 or supra or skyline. There's hardly any cars that are meant to have a long life. Most ore just trendy shitboxes meant to make money like you said.
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Very true, I went into detail about non serviceable front ends in a thread somewhere, as bs as that is to someone like me, the vast majority of vehicles by 150k miles when u start having these failures, most cars are wrecked, totalled, neglected or been handed over so many times that it's just driven til it breaks and no one fixes it.
People like me who want to service and repair and make one last and be financially efficient are a small percentage.
But it's not bc they make it like crap, it's a heck of an achievement to get them to past that long without additional grease.
I also went back and forth on if they're classics and it's kind of an opinion thing I guess anyone who gets a 2020 Camaro as a kid will live 2020 Camaros as an old man in 2080...
I think the word I wanted was lazy. It's just lazy. Half the problem is Camaro name or mustang is whatever is constantly reinvented and that makes sense bc of mass production and huge financial risk etc. U can't always create a new wildly different sports car.
But for u to have a perpetual model like mustang or Camaro or taurus it's double lazy to steer the body style back to the original design. That's just double lazy. That removed the small risk of reinventing the body and making it different even tho it's the same.
Camaros. 1st to 2nd to 3rd gen. All three very different yet very similar. And two of them became huuuuge iconic cars.
It's real complicated because the financials make it so much more forgiveable. But it's lazy as shit.
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We'll the body style has never been back the the original. They're are aspects of the original. General shape, tail lights, front fascia. But the 1st gen and second gen camaro share about as much as the most recent mustang and the 2006. Every generation is different. Yet retains some of the soul. I wouldn't call it lazy. It's a mustang. People bought it for a reason and Ford wants them to keep buying it for the same reason. They can't change the car every generation. There has to be some consistency. Otherwise what's the point in having an iconic car of you change it everytime a new one come out? It's iconic for a reason and it needs to stay that way. Porsche hasn't changed it's shape at all and that's a damn good thing. A 911 is a 911 and anyone who likes cars can tell you it's a 911 from 200 yards away. That's good marketing. A mustangs tail lights tell you it's a mustang from far away. It's about recognition. They can't keep coming up with new body styles because people like mustangs because they look like mustangs.
I'm with you. I buy a car to last. I'm rebuilding my 88 Toyota Pickup and it'll last me until I die. I can do everything myself and I hate the disposable car ideology.
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mmm guess I would disagree with you here. Not that any of it matters.
A 911 is an amazing example actually well done, probably the best example u could have given there because even 30 years ago they looked the same just bubblier. Rounder curves.
But there's a lot of differences there, 911s aren't ubiquitous to the point of mustangs and Camaros and so every car in a special niche like that gets special rules. In fact I say 911 is the exception.
BMWs for example, even in 1990 the 7 serries wasa hideous boxy car no one can believe cost 100k, which is an upgrade compared to the earlier body style which was literally a box with wheels. That cost 80k. They quickly became very sleek. Five series is another example of absolute drastic change in a short time. From e28 to e34 to e39 to E60. Wow. Craaaaazy Changes each time.
Most cars change dramatically during their run, from gen to gen and even between gens.
Every single BMW im aware of except the Z8 received facelifts halfway thru their run off the same body style. They didn't spend those millions for nothing.
People want constant change. Especially in the models we see all tbe time.
911 is a rare exception I think. The industry and it's need for constant change proves my point I think, I don't like any cars my dad liked I think the 50s cars are hideous boats I think 64 1/2 mustangs are hideous and over loved I guess a 96 cobra would be the only mustang I like and thats bc with a stick shift and the full leather bucket seats in there and a throaty exhaust it's completely unlike every other mustang. Because it is. Many of them even change chassis and then it's literally a complete new car.
Drastically different design elements, different feel different design fr ground up. It's not the same car it never was.
It's brands. And brands are bullshit bc people who buy into brands buy into, oh a Chevy is a Chevy. Or a half ton is a half ton. No, one body style is plagued with problems die to fundamental design errors and one isn't. But both are branded as same thing.
It's a fools errand to base future vehicle decisions based on branding. The looks change the performance and reliability drastically change. It's apples to oranges (None of this is applied to you, the mass thinking public in general is my audience there) And it's absolutely only done to give a pseudo feeling of familiarity or reliability and it's all koolaid.
There was a mustang that was MacPherson strut suspension and as u turn the wheel hard on the track, because of steering angle geometry of those systems vs short a long arm, the tire patch contacting the track actually gets cut in half, u lose half of the tiny tiny spot of contact you had previously. I bet the previous owners who came in riding the coat tail of earlier mustangs and their massive success we're pissed. In fact, its nearly able to take legal action on that, it's almost false advertising.
Iconic car means when I see it in a movie 10 years later I remember exactly what it was like to drive that particular car. Because that car was iconic it stood out that CAR.
You can build a brand but as soon as u change stuff it's not the same nor does it deserve or, time shows us, even earn the respect it deserves. Coke changed their recipe and what happened. Can you call their new flavor iconic? Hardly.
That shit is branding and it's lazy, it's lies amd it only works on the Ill informed. And it's double lazy when they go back and heavily base their car off previous designs.
We could go back and forth about which fascia and how much but the point is very clear to me, the very notion of releasing to the world a new design that looks like your best 20 years ago is like me showing up at Halloween already drunk dressed like myself 20 years ago.
It's fucking lazy and it shows how many drink the koolaid.
Buying a brand or staying local to anything in today's automotive industry is the same as voting straight ticket Republican or democrat. By nature it's lazy and stupid.

I guess what I mean is I think the souped up new Camaros look sick but I'd be an idiot to buy it based on previous knowledge of Camaros or thinking I'm going to have Chevy's bulletproof reliability or without havinf the dealership put it on a lift and let me walk under it to look in detail at how easy ALL of my future maintenance will be.
Each time a new body style comes out, each time the chassis is new, its an entirely new vehicle. With the fast pace of technology increasing available options for cars and capitalism fueling aggressive sales and harsh business tactics, over 50% of R&D as far as short term reliability is done by the customer base amd 100 percent of long term or weird situation (like Ford explorer fires fr cruise control switch at master cylinder) only come from us.
Oh and also service departments report earning up to double what sales departments earn for the car manufacturers.
So you can have Chevy pride and all but a car is your second largest invesent for most people and many get upside down and all that so, yeah, stupid reasons to spend bank
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