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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: musiclover420]
#25118869 - 04/06/18 04:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Putin has dirt on Trump, claims Russian treason defence lawyer
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Russian human rights lawyer Ivan Pavlov has been honoured in Sydney with a top human rights award. He has given SBS News a troubling insight into Vladimir Putin's Russia.
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A prominent Russian human rights lawyer who is representing intelligence officers arrested after the publication of the so-called Steele Dossier is convinced the Kremlin has a lot of dirt on US President Donald Trump.

FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump
Donald Trump asks ‘why did you wait?’ after CIA delayed drone strike to prevent civilian deaths
Trump asked CIA official why drone strike didn’t also kill target’s family: report
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Trump reportedly asked a CIA official why the agency didn’t kill a terrorist target's family during a drone strike.
The Washington Post reported Thursday that, after watching a recorded video of a drone strike in Syria in which officials waited until the target was outside of his family’s home, Trump asked, “Why did you wait?”
The agency’s head of drone operations explained to an “unimpressed” Trump there are techniques to limit the number of civilian casualties. Trump called for the CIA to start arming its drones in Syria and reportedly asked for it to be started in days.

What a POS...
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: musiclover420]
#25119524 - 04/06/18 08:23 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enlil said: I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the Obama cult of personality was the strongest "cult mentality" we've had in this country in my lifetime. We have a similar Trump cult today, but it's significantly smaller.
I don't know what to tell you, bro. People in a cult rarely realize they're in a cult. It's like a catholic calling out scientology as a cult when both ideologies believe in mystical sky faeries and elevate a man to the status of a demigod. Dems and repubs are little more than teams to root for. Neither stand for anything other than the desire to win and gain power.
I could say the same thing about the anti Obama cult Hell there are still people who think he is some Kenyan muslim extremist 
At least with Trump people are upset about things they really should be.
Also I've seen plenty of Democrats criticize Obama, most people realize he wasn't perfect. Funnily enough the bank bailout is one of the biggest complaints I've heard which was actually started under Bush 
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Whataboutism at it's best

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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: musiclover420] 1
#25119669 - 04/06/18 09:43 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said: I could say the same thing about the anti Obama cult Hell there are still people who think he is some Kenyan muslim extremist 
At least with Trump people are upset about things they really should be.
Oh the irony.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
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Oh. Are we talking about Blowhard or Dog Shit Barry?
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Things are hardly being kept secret, except maybe the fact they haven't found anything yet.
You wouldn't actually know if anything had been found yet or not because that information is classified. Good try though, dude 
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Mercurious]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Things are hardly being kept secret, except maybe the fact they haven't found anything yet.
You wouldn't actually know if anything had been found yet or not because that information is classified. Good try though, dude 
You can do better than that.

I'm sure plenty of republicans were saying the same thing about Nixon before the watergate investigation was over.
Also it's ludicrous to say they've found "nothing", I guess all the indictments we are aware ofso far are "nothing"...
Meanwhile Hillary was investigated fully at least 1-2 times and people still bring her up as some sort of excuse for Trumps behavior
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Mercurious] 1
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Things are hardly being kept secret, except maybe the fact they haven't found anything yet.
You wouldn't actually know if anything had been found yet or not because that information is classified. Good try though, dude 
You can do better than that.
Notice I said "maybe". Good try to make yourself appear right. 
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Mercurious said: There's an extremely good chance they HAVE found evidence by now
You wouldn't actually know if anything had been found yet or not because that information is classified. Good try through, dude
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: musiclover420] 1
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I remember Trump supporters said Hillary committed war crimes for supporting intervention in Libya (so did trump.) Now trump is mad because the CIA won't kill innocent civilians.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#25120859 - 04/07/18 01:31 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: The Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same imperialist, neoliberal capitalist coin.
This is timely:
A NEW STUDY SHOWS HOW AMERICAN POLARIZATION IS DRIVEN BY A TEAM SPORT MENTALITY, NOT BY DISAGREEMENT ON ISSUES
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Things are hardly being kept secret, except maybe the fact they haven't found anything yet.
You wouldn't actually know if anything had been found yet or not because that information is classified. Good try though, dude 
You can do better than that.
Notice I said "maybe". Good try to make yourself appear right. 
Actually, you said it in the context that things were hardly being kept secret, except for the fact that nothing had been found. Don't try to backpeddle now just because you got called out.
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You wouldn't actually know if anything had been found yet or not because that information is classified. Good try through, dude 
Correct, I do not. However, I said there was a good "chance." You do know the meaning of the word chance, right? Not too good at the semantics thing, I see.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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The Ecstatic said: The Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same imperialist, neoliberal capitalist coin.
This is timely:
I don't think they are the same.
There is a difference in morals.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Mercurious]
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Mercurious said: Actually, you said it in the context that things were hardly being kept secret, except for the fact that nothing had been found.
You're exactly right, "except maybe the fact they haven't found anything yet."
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Mercurious said: I said there was a good "chance." You do know the meaning of the word chance, right? Not too good at the semantics thing, I see.
You know the meaning of "chance" but not the meaning of "maybe"?
Sounds like it's time for a signature bet. Koods chickened out. Are you in?
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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The Ecstatic said: The Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same imperialist, neoliberal capitalist coin.
This is timely:
A NEW STUDY SHOWS HOW AMERICAN POLARIZATION IS DRIVEN BY A TEAM SPORT MENTALITY, NOT BY DISAGREEMENT ON ISSUES
R's and D's are not the same as true conservatives and true liberals.
Most voters are highly uninformed and just vote the party line regardless of certain issues.
As we both know, there's plenty of disagreement on the issues from the people that focus on those issues.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Mercurious said: Actually, you said it in the context that things were hardly being kept secret, except for the fact that nothing had been found.
You're exactly right, "except maybe the fact they haven't found anything yet."
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Mercurious said: I said there was a good "chance." You do know the meaning of the word chance, right? Not too good at the semantics thing, I see.
You know the meaning of "chance" but not the meaning of "maybe"?
Sounds like it's time for a signature bet. Koods chickened out. Are you in? 

It's unfortunate to see you don't understand how context affects the meaning of things. Your context and mine were completely different. So you're either being willfully ignorant to make yourself appear right or you just don't get basic English nuances.
And I'm smart enough to know that nothing is a sure thing; I don't make bets. You'd be wise to do the same.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Mercurious] 1
#25121292 - 04/07/18 04:42 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mercurious said: There's an extremely good chance they HAVE found evidence by now . . . I said there was a good "chance." You do know the meaning of the word chance, right? . . . I'm smart enough to know that nothing is a sure thing
I see. Your confidence went from "extremely good chance" to "a good chance" to "nothing is a sure thing".
I'm extremely confident they won't find collusion with Russia; so much so that I'm willing to give you two to one odds: if you win, I change my sig for 4 months; if you lose, you change your sig for 2 months. Deal? Or is your confidence now less than 33%?
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#25121568 - 04/07/18 06:49 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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^i wouldnt challenge fal to any sig bets regarding russia
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#25121588 - 04/07/18 06:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mercurious said: There's an extremely good chance they HAVE found evidence by now . . . I said there was a good "chance." You do know the meaning of the word chance, right? . . . I'm smart enough to know that nothing is a sure thing
I see. Your confidence went from "extremely good chance" to "a good chance" to "nothing is a sure thing".
I'm extremely confident they won't find collusion with Russia; so much so that I'm willing to give you two to one odds: if you win, I change my sig for 4 months; if you lose, you change your sig for 2 months. Deal? Or is your confidence now less than 33%?
Man your logic is truly astounding. You really gotta ditch that whole black and white outlook on everything. It's really not conducive to intelligent thought. I can still believe there's an extremely good chance of something happening and also stand by my own assertion that I don't make bets because I am smart enough to know that anything can happen, regardless of strong odds. Aside from the fact that I simply don't give enough of a fuck about you to care about winning or losing.
I think the whole thing is stupid and your aggression about the subject is akin to a high school bully going "C'mon, what are you, a pussy?" I feel sad for ya to be honest. That level of competitiveness is unhealthy. I certainly don't need to prove the conviction of my own beliefs to some random stranger on the internet and even if I won, you're too irrelevant for me to get any level of satisfaction over seeing you post some stupid signature for a couple months. That shit is childish. But I mean, you do you. If goading internet strangers into making stupids bets with you fills some void in your life, by all means go ham with it.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Mercurious]
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Mercurious said: There's an extremely good chance they HAVE found evidence by now . . . I said there was a good "chance." You do know the meaning of the word chance, right? . . . I'm smart enough to know that nothing is a sure thing
I see. Your confidence went from "extremely good chance" to "a good chance" to "nothing is a sure thing".
I'm extremely confident they won't find collusion with Russia; so much so that I'm willing to give you two to one odds: if you win, I change my sig for 4 months; if you lose, you change your sig for 2 months. Deal? Or is your confidence now less than 33%?
Man your logic is truly astounding. You really gotta ditch that whole black and white outlook on everything. It's really not conducive to intelligent thought. I can still believe there's an extremely good chance of something happening and also stand by my own assertion that I don't make bets because I am smart enough to know that anything can happen, regardless of strong odds. Aside from the fact that I simply don't give enough of a fuck about you to care about winning or losing.
I think the whole thing is stupid and your aggression about the subject is akin to a high school bully going "C'mon, what are you, a pussy?" I feel sad for ya to be honest. That level of competitiveness is unhealthy. I certainly don't need to prove the conviction of my own beliefs to some random stranger on the internet and even if I won, you're too irrelevant for me to get any level of satisfaction over seeing you post some stupid signature for a couple months. That shit is childish. But I mean, you do you. If goading internet strangers into making stupids bets with you fills some void in your life, by all means go ham with it.
I got you to go from "extremely good chance" to "a good chance" to "nothing is a sure thing". If you think a silly signature bet is me being a "bully", then you should report me, or else you're truly a snowflake. Either way, my point has been made.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
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You have no point lol. If you think saying something has an extremely good chance of happening is mutually exclusive from saying anything can happen, then you're truly ignorant. Anything less than a 100% chance of something occurring means anything can happen, genius. I never changed any of my statements and still stand by my original statement that I think there is a very good chance there was collusion while ALSO saying anything can happen, nonetheless.
The only time I said "good chance" instead of "very good chance" was to show you what something meant in context (which you still apparently don't get). Is me accidentally not writing "very" the second time actually all you have as an argument? Do I really have to pick apart your own dribble to show you how you're wrong? This is getting sad, dude. If all you've got is mindless doublespeak for arguments, then you're in for a rude awakening.
The only points you've managed to make so far are that you have no idea what context is, no idea what mutually exclusive statements are, and absolutely no idea how to properly debate or argue.
You're just some guy who thinks he's slick when in actuality, only knows how to deflect and talk in circles.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Mercurious] 2
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Mercurious said: You have no point lol.
My point is that I'm confident enough to make the bet, you're not.
Obviously no bet has 100% certainty, or betting would be pointless.
Funny thing is, you have nothing but ad hominem and straw man arguments, and you pretend you're the smart one.
You're style is identical to the poster known as Buffy, who stopped posting the same time you started.
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