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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#25117855 - 04/06/18 08:56 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Actually the hype around Reagan was IMO bigger than Obama and Trump.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#25117860 - 04/06/18 09:03 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So agreeing with the views of President is a cult now?
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: musiclover420]
#25117862 - 04/06/18 09:04 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enlil said: You don't think dems have a cult mentality? Have you talked to a bill maher fan? With all due respect (as much as is due), you already drank the koolaid. I see very little difference between dems and repubs. Any difference is just marketing/branding. One is Nike and the other Adidas. Both are overpriced, underbuilt, and made with slave labor.
Dems do as well but to much more varying degrees. Look at hillary, plenty of Democrats hated her and voted for someone else or stayed home.
Some R's hate trump too but all the ones in power seem very hesitant to even call him out for fear of losing party support. Almost all of them consistently vote with their party, that is a cult mentality. Hell even people like McCain have come out and spoken against trump only to fall in line and vote for the very things they spoke out against. Like Trump's pick who has a history of literally torturing people :
Who is Gina Haspel? Trump's pick for CIA chief linked to torture site
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Donald Trump’s pick for head of the Central Intelligence Agency, Gina Haspel, reportedly oversaw a black site prison in Thailand where terrorism suspects were tortured.
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Haspel also drafted a cable ordering the destruction of CIA interrogation videos in 2005.
A US justice department investigation into the tapes’ destruction ended without charges, but the event helped spark a landmark investigation into US detentions and interrogations.
Christopher Anders, deputy director of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Washington legislative office, claimed Haspel “was up to her eyeballs in torture”.
Anders urged the CIA to declassify her torture record before the Senate considers her nomination.
This was echoed by John McCain, the Arizona senator who was tortured during the Vietnam war.
“Ms Haspel needs to explain the nature and extent of her involvement in the CIA’s interrogation program during the confirmation process,” McCain said. He called the torture of US detainees during the Bush era “one of the darkest chapters in American history”.
I think you guys are the ones who've drank the "both sides are exactly the same" koolaid 
I still think both sides are being played to varying degrees but it doesn't take much looking around to see which side has consistently fucked over the lower/middle class for decades...
I've also yet to see remotely the same level of racism or sexism from democrats for what that's worth. Wife beating seems like a R past time at this point...
"I've also yet to see remotely the same level of racism or sexism from democrats"
You might want to get your eyes tested.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Brian Jones]
#25117869 - 04/06/18 09:08 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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That was as well, but I wasn't alive to see JFK.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Patlal]
#25117872 - 04/06/18 09:10 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Patlal said: So agreeing with the views of President is a cult now?
I don't recall anyone saying that. Can you quote the post? Or did you just pull that shit straight out of your ass?
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: koods]
#25117922 - 04/06/18 09:31 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: musiclover420]
#25117935 - 04/06/18 09:39 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enlil said: It takes a lot of denial to believe that the dems are any less morally bankrupt.
My whole point is some are and some aren't, while the GOP has a strong collective/ cult mentality which is very dangerous.
Anyways I think it takes just as much denial to believe that both parties are equally bad.
I never said they were equally bad. I said theyre both bad. Both guilty.
To lambast only one party is to completely miss the point.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Enlil] 1
#25117982 - 04/06/18 10:04 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Neither stand for anything other than the desire to win and gain power.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Patlal] 1
#25117984 - 04/06/18 10:05 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Trump will have done his 8 years before this investigation is over...
If nothing major came up after a year of interrogating everyone, then it's over. Trump has many enemies and yet, nobody the FBI investigated could bring solid evidence. The FBI is an extremely competent branch of government. It is recognize as one of the best in the world. I am 110% sure they would have found actual evidence by now if there were some...
LOL. You really don't understand how federal investigations work, do you? There's an extremely good chance they HAVE found evidence by now and are using it to flip witnesses and gather additional evidence to solidify a case. It's a widely known practice that's used by the FBI all the time. The Jared the Subway guy case I mentioned is one of many. They had direct evidence he was molesting kids just a few months into the investigation and did not arrest him 'til four years later. There are many, many more examples like his. Just because you want something to be true, doesn't mean it is. The goal is to get as many parties as possible and in the Russia case, they are going after dozens of subjects. Apparently, you don't understand the gravity of that and how long an investigation of that caliber takes.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Mercurious] 2
#25118149 - 04/06/18 11:28 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Mercurious]
#25118271 - 04/06/18 12:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mercurious said: LOL. You really don't understand how federal investigations work, do you? There's an extremely good chance they HAVE found evidence by now and are using it to flip witnesses and gather additional evidence to solidify a case. It's a widely known practice that's used by the FBI all the time.
The goal is to get as many parties as possible and in the Russia case, they are going after dozens of subjects. Apparently, you don't understand the gravity of that and how long an investigation of that caliber takes.
Each week koods posts about what they're going to look into next. Things are hardly being kept secret, except maybe the fact they haven't found anything yet.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Enlil]
#25118281 - 04/06/18 12:18 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Patlal said: So agreeing with the views of President is a cult now?
I don't recall anyone saying that. Can you quote the post? Or did you just pull that shit straight out of your ass?
I wasn't addressing you personally.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Patlal]
#25118295 - 04/06/18 12:21 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, but you were addressing someone. I searched throughout this thread for hours looking for the part where someone made that claim, and I didn't find it. I wracked my brain, because I know you would never be so intellectually dishonest as to resort to a strawman argument. It must be there somewhere. Please help me find it.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Enlil]
#25118304 - 04/06/18 12:25 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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If it is a cult, then we ought to start drinking cat blood.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Enlil]
#25118306 - 04/06/18 12:25 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enlil said: No, but you were addressing someone. I searched throughout this thread for hours looking for the part where someone made that claim, and I didn't find it. I wracked my brain, because I know you would never be so intellectually dishonest as to resort to a strawman argument. It must be there somewhere. Please help me find it.

Maybe you should find another hobby
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: XUL]
#25118308 - 04/06/18 12:26 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know of a lot of cults, but none that drink cat's blood.
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Patlal]
#25118311 - 04/06/18 12:27 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enlil said: No, but you were addressing someone. I searched throughout this thread for hours looking for the part where someone made that claim, and I didn't find it. I wracked my brain, because I know you would never be so intellectually dishonest as to resort to a strawman argument. It must be there somewhere. Please help me find it.

Maybe you should find another hobby
I can't. It would shatter my reality to find that you were anything less than wholly sincere in your rhetoric. PLEASE HELP ME!
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Enlil]
#25118317 - 04/06/18 12:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enlil said: No, but you were addressing someone. I searched throughout this thread for hours looking for the part where someone made that claim, and I didn't find it. I wracked my brain, because I know you would never be so intellectually dishonest as to resort to a strawman argument. It must be there somewhere. Please help me find it.

Maybe you should find another hobby
I can't. It would shatter my reality to find that you were anything less than wholly sincere in your rhetoric. PLEASE HELP ME!
There there...
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: The Ecstatic]
#25118682 - 04/06/18 03:22 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lol
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Re: Court filing shows Mueller suspects collusion between Trump campaign and Russia [Re: Enlil]
#25118832 - 04/06/18 04:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enlil said: I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the Obama cult of personality was the strongest "cult mentality" we've had in this country in my lifetime. We have a similar Trump cult today, but it's significantly smaller.
I don't know what to tell you, bro. People in a cult rarely realize they're in a cult. It's like a catholic calling out scientology as a cult when both ideologies believe in mystical sky faeries and elevate a man to the status of a demigod. Dems and repubs are little more than teams to root for. Neither stand for anything other than the desire to win and gain power.
I could say the same thing about the anti Obama cult Hell there are still people who think he is some Kenyan muslim extremist 
At least with Trump people are upset about things they really should be.
Also I've seen plenty of Democrats criticize Obama, most people realize he wasn't perfect. Funnily enough the bank bailout is one of the biggest complaints I've heard which was actually started under Bush
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