verum subsequentis said:

I'm loading a bunch of syringes and agar into the pc as we speak actually.

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Let the fun begin!

Mush Hunter said:

The question is... When I finally decide, would it be better off to inoculate some grains first or would it be better to do some agar with an MS syringe? I was figuring if I was to go the jar way I could transfer grain mycelium to agar and do a tub with the rest of the spawn or MS to agar and isolate first and transfer agar to grain. Which would be a better plan of attack?

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cronicr said:

I have made entire cakes replacing the verm even for the dry layer, rolled in coir and cased and top fruited but verm does slightly better but was able to get stuntzii to pin on coir cakes

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Right on! Good to know!

impatientguy said:

Wow

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verum subsequentis said:

that's funny. i have a little coir cake experiment going on at the moment too. i had a bit of left over coir and not enough grain so i loaded up a jar with straight coir, pc'ed it with the grains and nocced it up with li.

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Awesome! Keep us posted! I’m curious how this will turn out

impatientguy said:

Mush Hunter said:

The question is... When I finally decide, would it be better off to inoculate some grains first or would it be better to do some agar with an MS syringe? I was figuring if I was to go the jar way I could transfer grain mycelium to agar and do a tub with the rest of the spawn or MS to agar and isolate first and transfer agar to grain. Which would be a better plan of attack?

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Not necessarily advocating it, but all of the pics in my sig are MS syringe to grain spawned to bulk.


I would personally rather grow out some multi-spore genetics and then select a clone from that. Just so you know your working with a substrain that will fruit.

But that's just how I roll. Lol

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I did it for 10 years

Now onto agar.  You can only MS spawn so many tubs before you're like

"WHY AM I STILL USING MS, WTF"

MS is a gamble in more than just whether or not they will fruit.  Yield, potency, consistency, etc.

When a tub under-performs or something, with MS it can be harder to tell if your successes or failures were a result of proper technique.  Simply because you have no baseline to compare it too, and never really will.

impatientguy said:

I've always had pretty consistent yields off of MS.  It's the potency that seems vary a bit, but not by much.

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impatientguy said:

I get an oz per jar from MS literally every time. So idk.


I'm def not saying its better than agar work, but it pisses me off to see people talk shit about working with MS.

It works great.

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Like I said, I did it for ten years with great results, and I've had people give me crap too; they can fuck off and die.

If it works for your particular situation, all power to you!


I'm just saying when you get bored with it, and you will eventually despite success, there is a lot of fun to be had; and better flushes to be seen.



Don't think I'm rushing or bashing you man.  Agar is just too easy these days not to suggest it.

A lot of people around here seem to think their way of doing things is the only fuckin' way that is right (kinda like religion, rofl)

But picture 10 years of nothing but brainlessly making the same tubs the same way over and over, eventually you'll tire of it, and when you do, it'll be a grand day for you.