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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Mush Hunter]
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Mush Hunter said:
Tormato said:
Mush Hunter said:
Tormato said:
You get more surface area to fruit grating cakes to coir


But if the end result is the same then how is the larger surface area beneficial?


Anytime I have ever grated cakes to coir the output was greater! That's really why I only do bulk now :shrug:



Soon I will attempt a bulk! Just haven't decided if it will be with BRF to bulk or if I will just go straight to WBS or Oats.


I started with Rye Berries then moved to WBS....now I do Oats majority of the time :rockon:


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Tormato]
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Tormato said:
I started with Rye Berries then moved to WBS....now I do Oats majority of the time :rockon:


Ya, I have been checking out hauled oats myself and like what I've been seeing! :takingnotes:

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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Mush Hunter]
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Mush Hunter said:
Tormato said:
I started with Rye Berries then moved to WBS....now I do Oats majority of the time :rockon:


Ya, I have been checking out hauled oats myself and like what I've been seeing! :takingnotes:


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Tormato]
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i think you mean whole oats.:shrug:


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: verum subsequentis] * 1
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verum subsequentis said:
i think you mean whole oats.:shrug:


I thought he meant hulled :lol:


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Tormato] * 1
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maybe, i've never used them. whole oats for me (and wbs, rye, millet...) but mainly oats


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: verum subsequentis] * 1
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verum subsequentis said:
maybe, i've never used them. whole oats for me (and wbs, rye, millet...) but mainly oats


Hulled like they still have the hulls on them :lol:


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: verum subsequentis]
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I really like Milo  great grain to work with as well:thumbup:


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: impatientguy]
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Another issue I see is the potential stick factor of coir vs verm


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Tormato]
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Tormato said:
verum subsequentis said:
i think the coir would colonize and loose it's water holding property. it's too nutritious and that's why it's not used as a casing layer.


:whathesaid: Totally agree! The myc would devour it!


People have done it and that's exactly what happened.  You would essentially have to case/roll them twice, first with coir, then with verm.  It's just adding vectors and if I recall properly from back in the day, people had better results with regular old cakes dunk n' rolled with a dash of gypsum.  I tried reinventing the wheel a lot myself when I was new, lol.

Experimenting is fun anyways, but yea, it has been done already.

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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: plurfekt]
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Hulled oats is what I meant and Bod's tech is what I have been looking at doing :thumbup:

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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Mush Hunter] * 1
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Mush Hunter said:
Hulled oats is what I meant and Bod's tech is what I have been looking at doing :thumbup:


Ah, well good luck man :mushroom2:

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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Mush Hunter] * 1
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Mush Hunter said:
Hulled oats is what I meant and Bod's tech is what I have been looking at doing :thumbup:


:rockon:


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Tormato]
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The question is... When I finally decide, would it be better off to inoculate some grains first or would it be better to do some agar with an MS syringe? I was figuring if I was to go the jar way I could transfer grain mycelium to agar and do a tub with the rest of the spawn or MS to agar and isolate first and transfer agar to grain. Which would be a better plan of attack?

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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Mush Hunter]
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Mush Hunter said:
The question is... When I finally decide, would it be better off inoculation some grains first or would it be better to do some agar with an MS syringe? I was figuring if I was to go the jar way I could transfer grain mycelium to agar and do a tub with the rest of the spawn or MS to agar and isolate first and transfer agar to grain. Which would be a better plan of attack?


Agar is always best when dealing with MS syringes


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Tormato]
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I thoughts so but confirmation on the subject is always nice. :cheers:

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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Mush Hunter] * 1
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Mush Hunter said:
I thoughts so but confirmation on the subject is always nice. :cheers:


Agar is so much fun! You’ll get addicted quick! :super:


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Tormato]
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Tormato said:
Agar is so much fun! You’ll get addicted quick! :super:


I can see that happening :grin:

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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: Mush Hunter] * 1
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i'll second that. always take spores to agar. and it is quite fun.


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Re: COIR vs VERM on BRF??? [Re: verum subsequentis] * 1
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I'm loading a bunch of syringes and agar into the pc as we speak actually.


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