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Shroomdoomie
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: bodhisatta]
#25107906 - 04/02/18 06:20 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Those spawn bags don't look 100% healthy but if you get some shrooms 
Think got like that after the 1st shake, so they can colonize, I think its normal.. not a trusted culv or expert again stating that but they recolonized like that after I shook the original colonization once it was 70% colonized.
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
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Shroomdoomie
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: Shroomdoomie]
#25107979 - 04/02/18 07:28 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Update: Misted it until there was tiny droplets on the sub, Gonna see whatsup in two days and see if I can begin fruiting.
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
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bodhisatta 
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: Shroomdoomie]
#25107988 - 04/02/18 07:38 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomdoomie said:
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bodhisatta said: Those spawn bags don't look 100% healthy but if you get some shrooms 
Think got like that after the 1st shake, so they can colonize, I think its normal.. not a trusted culv or expert again stating that but they recolonized like that after I shook the original colonization once it was 70% colonized.
I meant all of them including the before shake ones Recolonization almost always happens unless they're completely fucked The first two pictures look bacterial
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Shroomdoomie
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: bodhisatta]
#25107991 - 04/02/18 07:45 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oooo, It's Hydrated and sterlized Milo grain, are you talking about the actual grains themselves or the mysc growing on them? 
First time I heard they look unhealthy, hmm. I really hope this first grow goes through well, I wanna try cloning and some stuff. If all goes as planned, My next grow I want to try 2 stillair tubs, for a first time grow even if this gets botched. Still it was a great learning process in patience and knowledge..hopefully it goes well tho haha
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
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Shroomdoomie
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GUYS!!!, Just 1-2 hours after misting, My sides of the tub started pinning BIG TIME instantly, I think I'm going to take into fruiting conditions tonight and cover the sides.
https://ibb.co/ksppH7 https://ibb.co/jDK6x7 https://ibb.co/kWLeH7 https://ibb.co/b6p6x7
Edit: Question, I know I should've been layed the inside and covered it but now I have no choice but to do it on the outerside. MY question is, will covering this now to stop these pins, fuck everything up and these pins will turn into contam?? Or is it all good?
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
Edited by Shroomdoomie (04/02/18 09:06 AM)
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bodhisatta 
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Upload your pics here. I don't click on any of those links.
Side pins are fine. The sides of the tubs don't need tape, never needed tape, and blocking the light from the sides doesn't stop side pins.
Just let your side pins grow.
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Shroomdoomie
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bodhisatta said: Upload your pics here. I don't click on any of those links.
Side pins are fine. The sides of the tubs don't need tape, never needed tape, and blocking the light from the sides doesn't stop side pins.
Just let your side pins grow.
Sorry for large picture guys, can't rescale them though..

 There getting bigger and longer literally by the hour, and okay, forget the black tape then, I guess not much I can do.. I searched what to do with side pins once all fruits and they mature as well, flip methods and pick em right? Wish me luck.
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
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Shroomdoomie
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Will keep you guys updated, it's on a fruiting light cycle 12/12, misting etc. Keeping lid slightly cracked during the light cycle of on, going to close it up when its off. This tote is defiently a big pain in the ass for a no air tub,due to it being hard to create nice even air gaps, unlike the totes in Bod no air tek. defiently going to reuse this one next time and turn it into a poly fill mono tub. Screw this.
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
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elasticaltiger
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: bodhisatta]
#25108770 - 04/02/18 02:47 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Those spawn bags don't look 100% healthy but if you get some shrooms 
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw this. I feel like I've been telling people this a lot so I was starting to wonder if my eye was being too critical.
Guess I should trust my gut more.
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Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.
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Shroomdoomie
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: elasticaltiger]
#25108877 - 04/02/18 03:36 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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elasticaltiger said:
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bodhisatta said: Those spawn bags don't look 100% healthy but if you get some shrooms 
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw this. I feel like I've been telling people this a lot so I was starting to wonder if my eye was being too critical.
Guess I should trust my gut more.
Those pins look alright right?
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
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Shroomdoomie
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: Shroomdoomie]
#25109758 - 04/02/18 10:54 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Guys if worst comes to worst, if my top sub doesn't pin but my sides and bottom keep pinning and growing like crazy, is there anything I can do to save this? and atleast get some sort of flush from my first time growing?
At this point I'm just hoping for the best seeing if I can rehydrate my top sub, :/ and just greatfull the knowledge I've gotten from this attempt.
Would there be some way I can just cut off the sides and use the bottom, and dump the top layer or most of it out? IF no pins form at top and it gets worse? Eh, shooting my shot here fellas, let me know.
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
Edited by Shroomdoomie (04/02/18 10:58 PM)
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Shroomdoomie
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: elasticaltiger]
#25109912 - 04/03/18 12:02 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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elasticaltiger said:
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bodhisatta said: Those spawn bags don't look 100% healthy but if you get some shrooms 
I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw this. I feel like I've been telling people this a lot so I was starting to wonder if my eye was being too critical.
Guess I should trust my gut more.
Hey guys, brother tiger, as far as the spawn myc being unhealthy perhaps so, but as for the substrate I really think my only problem is it being dry plus perhaps some FAE issues, but honestly my sub looks exactly like this, except of course the bottom and side pinnings, what I'm lacking is humidity.
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Knots, small pins - Bodhisatta
  Knots, primordia, small pins - Tmethyl
    Primordia and knots - Tmethyl
 Primordia/knots - NatureBoy
 Primordia and knots - Creekfreek
  Hyphal knots, macro close-up - Tmethyl
   Primordia and knots - Dodgem
 Cubensis hyphal knots on rhizomorphic mycelium - Tmethyl
 Cubensis "roping" mycelium, also primordia and knots on right side, 1pint BRF(Brown Rice Flour) jar - Tmethyl
 Pins, Primorida, and Hyphal knots in monotub - Elkart
 Primordia growing on a pin, and various hyphal knots - Tmethyl
 Cubensis hyphal knots, primordia, and pin, extreme close up! - Tmethyl
 Hyphal knotting close-up, inside a monotub (one day before fruiting) - Tmethyl
 Hyphal knots, primordia/pins - k00laid
 An expensive shot of Hyphal knots and Primordia (and some pins) growing on a "cash casing" - RogerRabbit

Seems exactly like knots, I'm 99% sure this is what it is..
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
Edited by Shroomdoomie (04/03/18 12:05 AM)
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elasticaltiger
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: Shroomdoomie]
#25110085 - 04/03/18 02:30 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Were not talking about the knots. Were talking about the inconsistent blueing affect on your substrate. The knots look fine / normal. But the blueing being inconsistent is troublesome because you have what looks like, in some places, blue bruised mycelium directly underneath white fluffy myc. Normally when blueness from drying happens the bluing is pretty even.
So to me it implies there is something else going on that is bruising the myc. Might just be some harmless bacteria or it might be verticilium in the works. MAYBE it's just drying but that's an unlikely maybe.
You could still get a decent flush out of it barring any trich explosions.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber
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Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.
"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT
Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)
Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen
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Mercurious
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: elasticaltiger]
#25110111 - 04/03/18 03:09 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Upload more pictures of this section in a few days. Looks more like trich forming.
It's possible that it's bruising like tiger said, but it looks more green than blue to me. Hard to tell from these photos.
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: Mercurious]
#25110138 - 04/03/18 03:55 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Toss it, its contaminated.
Hard tell in that pic but it looks luke trich
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Edited by leafygreens (04/03/18 03:57 AM)
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Shroomdoomie
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: leafygreens]
#25110141 - 04/03/18 04:00 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for the replies guys, but due to this being my first and only tub nothing else can get messed up just a waste of time if it is trich, I'm going to let it ride and update you guys and see if in the end result it is trich, If it is so just a question? Theres nothing I can do to save it? I mean pins are forming and everything else is good except that one spot.. I also thought is there anyway I can just lmfao kind of like cut off the sides, bottom etc, and dump the top sub? I'm guessing no but its worth asking, I'll keep you guys updated.
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
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Mercurious
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: Shroomdoomie]
#25110151 - 04/03/18 04:06 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's a pretty big spot. And in my experience, when it's that big it's not just on the surface - it's in the middle too. Trying to nip/tuck it is just going to agitate the spores and get it into your house. The best you can do is toss it and start over when that happens.
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: Mercurious]
#25110161 - 04/03/18 04:26 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Spring is coming and spore count in the air is going up considerably more and more, IMO I don´t think you will create a disaster at home simply by having a tub go south, as soon as it is 100% confirmed that it is sporulating something bad or that chances are lost that it will give a flush then I would just throw it away, but since it is possible to get a flush from this tub I would keep it honestly and just keep an extra eye on it to make sure I know what´s going on with the sub. I´m fruiting two tubs right now that have a tiny green patch in the middle of the sub but it´s not growing and the mushrooms are developing nicely, I could have just thrown those tubs away but I would also have thrown 600g mushrooms away
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Shroomdoomie
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Re: NEED HINTS AND ADVICE, MY SPAWN+SUB READY TO FRUIT? LARGE HD PICS LOTS OF EM [Re: Mateja]
#25110174 - 04/03/18 04:45 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mateah said: Spring is coming and spore count in the air is going up considerably more and more, IMO I don´t think you will create a disaster at home simply by having a tub go south, as soon as it is 100% confirmed that it is sporulating something bad or that chances are lost that it will give a flush then I would just throw it away, but since it is possible to get a flush from this tub I would keep it honestly and just keep an extra eye on it to make sure I know what´s going on with the sub. I´m fruiting two tubs right now that have a tiny green patch in the middle of the sub but it´s not growing and the mushrooms are developing nicely, I could have just thrown those tubs away but I would also have thrown 600g mushrooms away 
Thanks Mateah just what I was thinking. +1, will keep you guys updated
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
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Shroomdoomie
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No not Side pins, No not bottom pins, Yes the first surface pins are here ladies and gents! [Re: Shroomdoomie]
#25110316 - 04/03/18 07:22 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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 pix upload
And there growing fast asf, hopefully by tommorow or the day after I'm pinning like crazy..
Might start a grow log at this point instead of spamming this one thread lol.
-------------------- My first fail / successful grow - 120 grams dried - ShroomDoomie's grow log, Huautlas Mexican strain 1st grow
36fuckin5 -''If nothing else, throw it in a hole outside and cover it with some shit.''
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