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Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful 6
#25103564 - 03/31/18 01:18 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran] 3
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Honestly this is such a better alternative to classic sgfc.
The classic design is prone to drying out. We see people with blue cakes in sgcf's all the time.
Monos don't need holes on the bottom for air currents. You could argue that there is some heat produced by the mycelium that's helping things but there is water on the walls long before the myc starts to recover. This should be the standard design for fruiting cakes.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: elasticaltiger] 1
#25103589 - 03/31/18 01:46 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I might build one tomorrow. Just need to borrow a drill from my buddy for the big holes.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran] 1
#25103592 - 03/31/18 01:49 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Don't be a pussy, heat up a knife on the stove and hack that shit out!
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: elasticaltiger] 1
#25103598 - 03/31/18 01:55 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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elasticaltiger said: Don't be a pussy, heat up a knife on the stove and hack that shit out!
lol. I'd rather not fuck her up haha. Do it once, do it right.
I also, might add to the OP, I'm gonna do some micropore tape dialed ones.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran] 1
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran] 2
#25104519 - 03/31/18 12:53 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice.
I want this tek to kill the shotgun fruiting chamber.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: elasticaltiger] 1
#25104540 - 03/31/18 12:59 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'll make one and try some cakes in it. I only need to mist once maybe twice a day in my SGFC. But it would be nice if I could leave for a day or 2 and not worry about who was misting em.
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Fascistbullyboy said: I'll make one and try some cakes in it. I only need to mist once maybe twice a day in my SGFC. But it would be nice if I could leave for a day or 2 and not worry about who was misting em.
How many cakes do you put in it? How big is the tote?
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55 litre tub. ATM I've got 8 half pint and 1, 1 litre cake.
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Shotguns really work better when you have them filled with substrate (like you do in the picture)
The more sub you pack in the more they hold their humidity and behave more like a mono.
When you only habe a couple of cakes you have to really mist a lot. As i said earlier, we see people with dried out blue cakes im shotguns all the time. I sincerely believe this tek will outperform a standard sgfc especially in situations where there are only a few cakes.
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elasticaltiger said: Shotguns really work better when you have them filled with substrate (like you do in the picture)
The more sub you pack in the more they hold their humidity and behave more like a mono.
When you only habe a couple of cakes you have to really mist a lot. As i said earlier, we see people with dried out blue cakes im shotguns all the time. I sincerely believe this tek will outperform a standard sgfc especially in situations where there are only a few cakes.
I have a bunch of half pint cakes that will be done in the next few days. I can see how they perform in it.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#25104613 - 03/31/18 01:25 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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This was definitely a thing people were doing back when I joined the board. I guess before monotub's completely took over. I've done the perlite in the bottom of a regular mono, too, and used with trays.
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Came here trough a link in elasticaltiger's signature. This looks good. I have been thinking about starting a Panaeolus bisporus grow and I will need a new fruiting chamber. This looks like a solid option.
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elasticaltiger said: Nice.
I want this tek to kill the shotgun fruiting chamber.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Dr. Freeman] 1
#25113683 - 04/04/18 01:04 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dunking our first two cakes to go into the chamber. 
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: McGrimm]
#25114219 - 04/04/18 05:41 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sweet. I've had to put mine on hold as I'm in Florida for 2 weeks. So I'll have to try with a fresh batch when I'm back.
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Thanks Ziran for the restoration!
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#25114959 - 04/05/18 02:00 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ziran said:
And dried and encapsulated 

What capsul size do you use, weight amount per capsul?
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: shroomysnake]
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Ziran said:
And dried and encapsulated 

What capsul size do you use, weight amount per capsul?
that is a question for psilo. check the OP link at the top of the post.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#25114998 - 04/05/18 02:44 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looks like 500mg capsules.
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That is bad ass!
Its this kind of hybridization that i like to see!
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#25115536 - 04/05/18 09:54 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Look like size 00 to me. I normally get 0.4 to 0.6 gram per cap.
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I wanna see colonized bags (with bulk sub) buried in one of those things.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: 36fuckin5]
#25120730 - 04/07/18 12:43 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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3rd cake has entered the chamber. there will be 2-5 more going in within the next week.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#25120771 - 04/07/18 12:58 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is awesome man thanks I might give this a go also!
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Shrooms4life]
#25120830 - 04/07/18 01:22 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Would I be able to cover up the holes on a regular SGFC to make one of these?
& then making it look like the tub in the pics.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: nothingtohide]
#25120856 - 04/07/18 01:30 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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nothingtohide said: Would I be able to cover up the holes on a regular SGFC to make one of these?
& then making it look like the tub in the pics.
Yes. I dont see why not. just drill your big holes and cover everything else with duct tape. Id recommend getting a new lid thou, just for not melting tape with your lighting.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#25120899 - 04/07/18 01:46 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you have to worry about melting tape you're way overdoing it with your lighting.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: 36fuckin5]
#25120907 - 04/07/18 01:51 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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fair point. just being safe lol
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
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Thanks a lot!
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: nothingtohide] 1
#25123498 - 04/08/18 01:58 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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first pins are in on the cake in the middle. Ive misted these cakes twice. No bluing yet with only 3 cakes in the chamber. I think we might be on to something
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran] 1
#25129761 - 04/10/18 10:10 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Will add this stuff to op later. I'm feeling lazy. Heres some pics. 4 more cakes going in tomorrow.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#25132190 - 04/12/18 12:31 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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That mushroom ended up 46 grams.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#25157026 - 04/22/18 06:31 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great job man! Perhaps I will try this TEK after I've tried standard unmodded tubs
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: iux]
#25157036 - 04/22/18 06:42 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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I just put my sgfc away because cakes were drying out. Might try this too
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#25157241 - 04/22/18 09:18 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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first pins are in on the cake in the middle. Ive misted these cakes twice. No bluing yet with only 3 cakes in the chamber. I think we might be on to something
Not to be mean but those don't look thriving
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: bodhisatta]
#25160117 - 04/23/18 02:43 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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first pins are in on the cake in the middle. Ive misted these cakes twice. No bluing yet with only 3 cakes in the chamber. I think we might be on to something
Not to be mean but those don't look thriving
Yeah. The first flush off of that cake on the right there was 44 grams wet.
Added the pics to OP
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#25165948 - 04/26/18 01:25 AM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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hello world.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
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Ziran said: hello world.

I fucking told you guys.
Ziran how did you feel about the maintenence level of the tub?
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Ziran said: hello world.

I fucking told you guys.
Ziran how did you feel about the maintenence level of the tub?
I mist like twice a day sometimes 3 times. And the chamber is about this full. I also have removed the tray cause she contamned out after the first flush but that's okay, the FAE went thru the roof to where it needs to be for cakes now. I feel this is a chamber where if its about half to 1/2 to 3/4's full it performs better. But most new growers don't end up with a packed full SGFC anyways, So it would definitely work better for newer people.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
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So you feel it still needs a lot of misting even though it's holding humidity better?
If I'm gonna do a side by side I think I want to do it as close to "set and forget" as possible.
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elasticaltiger said: So you feel it still needs a lot of misting even though it's holding humidity better?
If I'm gonna do a side by side I think I want to do it as close to "set and forget" as possible.
On a good day, I've misted once. on the days I'm here to watch surface conditions its 2 to 3 times. I feel it can go a day or two without misting and be a lot better off than a SGFC would be. No bluing and I've had a day and a half no misting a few times.
Bout as often as some of the mini mono's I've done where my tape wasn't tight enough. I feel if I tighten up the tape it would be even less misting.
I'll do another round of cakes and tighten up the MP tape even more and see where that gets us.
These two cakes were on the days I missed my misting a few times.
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Damn, this is a great idea. Wish I wouldve seen this when I first started. Probably wouldve worked out better for me. I definitely agree that SGFCs are more prone to drying problems, specially for noobies like myself.
Will definitely try this if I ever do cakes again.
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another cake update. Some are on their 2nd - 3rd flushes. I've only been bottom watering the cakes versus dunking them. Had 2 cakes go down due to trich, but fuck they were on 3rd-4th flush. So fuck I can't complain.
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Got several cakes going for my first grow, after searching for a good hybrid for a while, this post came up at the right time! Two 120ml cakes started pinning in their jars last weekend so i built this and fruited them, I found pins on one last night (5 days)! Very under filled (80L) FC right now though.
The chamber placement is a little weird but it's the best I could think of. I live in a small cold (<15c) flat, so it's in a corner by my pc which is mining, puts out a little airflow and heat. internal temp doesn't drop below 17 at night, with a lamp on top in the day it's at 22c.
I had been misting 3 times a day, fanning straight after plus 2 more times between. Starting to get the hang of it, noticing hydration and going by how I feel. Thought I saw some light bluing this morning, filled the lid with water (after seeing pins last night), it's either gone or wasn't there. If it was then it's most likely due to over fanning.
Will get some pictures when I can figure that out.
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The chamber placement is a little weird but it's the best I could think of. I live in a small cold (<15c) flat, so it's in a corner by my pc which is mining, puts out a little airflow and heat. internal temp doesn't drop below 17 at night, with a lamp on top in the day it's at 22c.
I had been misting 3 times a day, fanning straight after plus 2 more times between. Starting to get the hang of it, noticing hydration and going by how I feel. Thought I saw some light bluing this morning, filled the lid with water (after seeing pins last night), it's either gone or wasn't there. If it was then it's most likely due to over fanning.
Will get some pictures when I can figure that out.
Never fan, that's the beauty of this fruiting chamber. Mist only when the cakes look dry.
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I'm really digging how I'm doing my dunking now. I'll release how I've been doing it later down the road. Added a few more cake updates to OP
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another good 2nd flush.

I was also noticing that they wanted more FAE so I took one piece of tape off of one of my bottom holes. seemed to help a bit.
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Not sure what flush these two cakes are on. But by god. I'm pretty sure its flush 3 or 4. Only 6 cakes left.

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Awesome! I haven't been able to grow since summer 2011 but when I am able to again I will definitely try this tek out. Thank you so much!
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You're cakes are always so sick!
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probably the last flush one these two cakes. But hey! Lots of good stuffs!
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Thank you for this info. I am going to try this on my next go round since I have not had much luck with my sgfc.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: KStone]
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I plan on using this set up, trying to get a good idea on how much perlite to order for a similiar sized tub. How many quarts of perlite did you use?
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Camtaro420]
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just do the standard 4-5inches
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Yeah for sure, but I mean do you have an idea of how many quarts that is I am wondering if I should order 1 or 2 8 quart packs of perlite.
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Yeah for sure, but I mean do you have an idea of how many quarts that is I am wondering if I should order 1 or 2 8 quart packs of perlite.
the 8 quart bag will be plenty if Im not mistaken.
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Yeah for sure, but I mean do you have an idea of how many quarts that is I am wondering if I should order 1 or 2 8 quart packs of perlite.
the 8 quart bag will be plenty if Im not mistaken.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
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For my first grow ever (pf tek) I'm using this hybrid monotub build. Using micropore tape instead of polyfill.
Wondered if I could get your guys opinion about the conditions? I birthed 2 days ago, waited 24 hours to mist the first time. Now missing between 3-5 times a day, trying to make my cakes “glisten”.
But I’ll be honest I don’t quite know what I’m looking for. I get the theory but lack the experience!
Also I know my cakes look weird...made some mistakes which resulted in less than ideal colonization (see aforementioned comment about lack of experience).
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Ziran said: I might build one tomorrow. Just need to borrow a drill from my buddy for the big holes.
Wow I guess some things have changed since I took several years out but I don't remember sg havi g issues drying out if they were built properly are maintained as...
Since they should be misted daily it's quite easy tm bruise cakes from misting.
Coincedentaly I've had cakes dry out with no bruisning
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Wow I guess some things have changed since I took several years out but I don't remember sg havi g issues drying out if they were built properly are maintained as...
Since they should be misted daily it's quite easy tm bruise cakes from misting.
Coincedentaly I've had cakes dry out with no bruisning
It doesn't really have issues. Its just high maintenance. I'd rather only have to mist once a day versus 3-4 times depending on climate/weather.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Asura]
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Is it ok when i put cakes in regular mono with 6 holes and perlite at bottom?
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As a first time grower, I followed elasticaltiger’s signature link to this page. I think I am understanding the just of it, but get a bit lost on the polyfil and the special tape everyone is talking about. I don’t remember reading about that in the SGFC tek I read.
Is there a beginner’s tek explaining this hybrid fruiting chamber for us newbies?
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: DrMyco]
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the big holes above the perlite are replacing the sgfcs swiss cheese holes. you just need to restrict the air in and out, just like a monotub.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
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What is point of drilling the holes if you’re just going to plug them back up? Or is there a certain time to plug and certain time to leave open?
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So you can adjust airflow according to your needs. In Summer when it's more humid (in most places) you can leave your Poly a little looser for more FAE and not lose humidity. In Winter when it's drier you can stuff them a little tighter.
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So you can adjust airflow according to your needs. In Summer when it's more humid (in most places) you can leave your Poly a little looser for more FAE and not lose humidity. In Winter when it's drier you can stuff them a little tighter.
Ah makes much more sense now. Is it just the large holes that get plugged? Are the smaller holes for the air coming in? Or do you have to plug the tiny holes as well?
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: DrMyco]
#25703139 - 12/26/18 04:13 AM (6 years, 23 days ago) |
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the very top two holes get plugged with less poly/MP tape and the other 4 are where you plug em tighter. the small holes are left open and will allow the air to come in through the bottom passing the wet perlite providing humidity into the chamber.
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Hey Ziran and to all. I'm a first time grower and just read this thread. I inoculated my first BRF cakes yesterday. Intrigued by this hybrid fruiting chamber posted here. I was going to try TNT style with aquarium tube water heater, because I live in Northern CA and my house is a little cool this time of year (between 60-65F) I will need to raise FC temp. I am unsure about hole size and placement on a TNT. Holes would need to be above water line I get it. But how many and size not so sure about. Would this Hybrid FC work with a tube heater buried in the perlite. Seems like it might need close monitoring so perlite does dry out from tube heater. Any advice is much appreciated.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Zero Gravity]
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heat the room your FC is in not the FC itself. and just build one like in the tek for best results.
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Thanks Ziran. I'll give it a try. Guess I need to get a space heater.
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Hey man great post
im looking to build the same fc as the one in the pics titled your build you seem to have replaced the poly fill with paper and tape? is that correct or is it something else
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yes. I use micropore tape. You can use either or, I just prefer the tape.
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Wish this was a thing when I was trying to mix mono with sgfc in the oddest way possible. Big 'ol F
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
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Cool tek.
I made a similar SGFC by drilling 1/4" holes on all sides except the top (lid). Its been working pretty great in my opinion. It was inspired by the monotubs. Great stuff guys
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can you put perlite under the mix? instead of puting the monotub on top of the perlite.
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what?
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as a casing layer. Just an idea. But would it inhibit mycelium growth?
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Perlite as a casing layer....no..just no.
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I mispoke [Re: Trich]
#26079799 - 06/28/19 07:32 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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not a casing layer. underneath it all. I went back and started reading mushroom cultivator from 1983 and realized my mistake. Frackin nube
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time heals all wounds [Re: Trich]
#26091949 - 07/05/19 05:42 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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agar said:

The CASING LAYER above is a mixture (by volume) of:
5 parts course vermiculite. 3 parts perlite (treated -> see note) 1 part hydrated coir. 1 part oyster shell flour
NOTE: 1/2 the volume of perlite used. Was ground to a chunky flour consistency in a food processor. Then, remixed the the chunky perlite.
I have been tinkering with trying to find a "casing" mixture. That, requires no pH adjustment. (other than long term & could even be omitted))
As pH adjustment of peat is where many novices FAIL. 
I am not aware of any of the numerous casing mixture recipes. That contain PERLITE:
Researching the properties of perlite. I found this information.
Water retention by horticultural perlite is not an indiscriminate action.
The amount of water adsorbed on the surface of perlite particles is a function of the particle size distribution.
Coarser perlite particles holds less water than finer particles.
Thus, by adjusting the range of particle size employed.
The amount of moisture retained can be regulated to suit particular requirements.
Given that fact.
I decided to try perlite in a casing mixture.
I also included "coir" for this reason. Coir will colonize rapidly. Which should bring mycelium to the casing layer surface rapidly. (CAC'ing effect)
I first hydrated the coir. So, the volumes would be equal.
Then, added all ingredients. Measured with a measuring cup.
Then continued to hydrate the mixture. Until is would pass a hand "squeeze" test. Meaning, when you pick up a handful, it doesn't drip. And, when you give it a firm gentle squeeze, it does drip. (drip, not pour out)
I then bagged up the mixture. (plastic bag) Used a rubber band to close the bag. (not so tight, steam cannot escape) Nuked the bag 3 times, for 5 minutes. (flipping between each sequence)
Then, sealed the bag tight & cooled overnight.
Casing layer was applied to a colonized tray, today.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#26164407 - 09/01/19 08:30 PM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you think something along these lines might work for fruiting pans and mexicanas?
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: bongoman]
#26176974 - 09/09/19 01:16 AM (5 years, 4 months ago) |
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hmmm, I don't see why not. if your conditions are on point yeah. Its definitely a lot more humid inside the hybrid chamber than a standard SGFC
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#26500983 - 02/24/20 06:40 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi Hero,
can you tell me how you dealt with temp. maintenance with your Grow Tek? I am new to growing and want my first grow to work well.
I was thinking of heating rey berry bags in my 70 qt tub. Bags on a rack and heating pad inside the tub on a towel so I am only heating the air.
Then after mixing inoculated berries in substrate in same 70 qt tub, placing tub on rack and heating pad underneath rack and placing box over tub to insulate . This way I am heating the air inside the box where the tub is located.
I would do this until it starts to pin; at which point perhaps I just pull the heating pad?
Any thoughts?
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Sardo]
#26501731 - 02/24/20 03:12 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sardo said: Hi Hero,
can you tell me how you dealt with temp. maintenance with your Grow Tek? I am new to growing and want my first grow to work well.
I was thinking of heating rey berry bags in my 70 qt tub. Bags on a rack and heating pad inside the tub on a towel so I am only heating the air.
Then after mixing inoculated berries in substrate in same 70 qt tub, placing tub on rack and heating pad underneath rack and placing box over tub to insulate . This way I am heating the air inside the box where the tub is located.
I would do this until it starts to pin; at which point perhaps I just pull the heating pad?
Any thoughts?
just buy a small heater than can heat the room. direct heat to them is no bueno.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#26501759 - 02/24/20 03:35 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks. Got the "No Direct Heat". Just heat the air around the berries or box.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#26803146 - 07/04/20 09:15 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Beautiful.
Something I could never figure out, why the aluminum foil under the cakes?
I thought the cakes were supposed to merge with the substrait?
If not, than what's the reason people have nutrient substraits under the aluminum foil?
Thank you.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: nektar61]
#26803153 - 07/04/20 09:17 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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wondered about it myself- never done cakes, only cake-to-bulk... I think aluminum foil tends to stay sterile for one thing
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#26803262 - 07/04/20 10:07 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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I been sleeping on this one, looks pretty damn good man. I really like it. Gives me ideas.
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26805790 - 07/05/20 07:02 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I been sleeping on this one, looks pretty damn good man. I really like it. Gives me ideas.
cant wait to see it pasty!
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: SawCeeJack]
#26808849 - 07/07/20 11:23 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Ziran]
#26902630 - 08/27/20 04:06 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I whole heartedly agree. Way better than SGFC!
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: paul2day]
#26902729 - 08/27/20 04:55 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ha! I literally have this exact build for one of my perlite tubs. Mines a 64qt but man the hole placement and everything is eerily similar. Works like a champ.
Edit: whoops. Mine just has the larger holes up top (1 5/8 on mine) and a series of 1/4" holes in the bottom only. Works great for my dry ass house and woodstove...
Edited by alaskappalachian (08/27/20 05:00 PM)
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: Pastywhyte]
#27119956 - 01/01/21 09:01 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I been sleeping on this one, looks pretty damn good man. I really like it. Gives me ideas.
This one did give me an idea. Thanks Psilo
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Re: Monotub-SGFC Hybrid by Psilosoulful [Re: elasticaltiger]
#28658213 - 02/13/24 10:10 AM (10 months, 28 days ago) |
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elasticaltiger said: Honestly this is such a better alternative to classic sgfc.
The classic design is prone to drying out. We see people with blue cakes in sgcf's all the time.
Monos don't need holes on the bottom for air currents. You could argue that there is some heat produced by the mycelium that's helping things but there is water on the walls long before the myc starts to recover. This should be the standard design for fruiting cakes.
I actually stopped using perlite the second grow around, that was back in 2011. I did drill a bunch of holes though but Today I drill like you just two fat holes and then if I feel there is some need I put a small fan on in the room..just for comfort most times. As long as water evaporates and the cakes have some casing (Hell I dont case my cakes as much as you did) and fresh air and light it will all work. Plus one learns the basics of growing.
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