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Ullr
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Sub smells like mothballs
#25100043 - 03/29/18 04:33 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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A couple of days ago I spawned four shoeboxes with different Z-strain clones for testing (rye spawn, straight coir sub, 1:1 ratio). Now every shoebox has a distinct and very strong mothball smell. No visible signs of contamination, just mycelium starting to colonize around the grains.
It's pretty weird that the smell is the same in all boxes. The plates and jars seemed clean. No previous grow has given that kind of smell. The coir is from a different source than previously, though.
Any ideas?
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Re: Sub smells like mothballs [Re: Ullr] 1
#25100065 - 03/29/18 04:42 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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That is weird maybe the coir? I'm not sure either.
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Mandalie1
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Where did you get it? Subway? That places needs to be closed down.
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Re: Sub smells like mothballs [Re: Mandalie1] 1
#25100103 - 03/29/18 04:59 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some bacteria can produce mothball like smells.
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Ullr
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Re: Sub smells like mothballs [Re: Mandalie1]
#25100119 - 03/29/18 05:05 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mandalie1 said: Where did you get it? Subway? That places needs to be closed down.
No Subway in my country. I bought it from a gardening store, a single 5 kilo brick. National brand.
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natedawgnow said: Some bacteria can produce mothball like smells.
If it was bacteria in my spawn, wouldn't it have the same scent? I'm not 100% sure the spawn was clean, but it definitely didn't have the mothball smell. I'd say it's either the coir, or something in my spawn that is reacting strongly to coir. I think bacteria can't digest coir... yeast maybe?
Edited by Ullr (03/29/18 05:10 PM)
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Re: Sub smells like mothballs [Re: Ullr]
#25100381 - 03/29/18 06:25 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Maybe this mycelium is potent with DMT?
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Heres an interesting thing, mothballs smell like that cause they are made of 100% naphthalene, which is a byproduct of naphtha distillation from coal tar.
Now naphtha is the primary solvent in DMT extractions. My DMT smells mostly floral but i've had some smell pretty heavily of mothballs. Is there a correlation between the smell and the fact we use naphtha as a solvent?
Probably not DMT smells the way it does because its an indole and so is naphthalene. It's just an interesting coincidence. Or maybe not...
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Ullr
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Re: Sub smells like mothballs [Re: natedawgnow]
#25128043 - 04/10/18 10:27 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I did a little test... prepared some coir and put it in a shoebox. It didn't develop the smell, but got mold. Which is pretty bad.
On a different note, the smell from the spawned shoeboxes disappeared a couple of days after.
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Re: Sub smells like mothballs [Re: Ullr]
#25128123 - 04/10/18 11:05 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ullr said: I did a little test... prepared some coir and put it in a shoebox. It didn't develop the smell, but got mold. Which is pretty bad.
On a different note, the smell from the spawned shoeboxes disappeared a couple of days after.
That's wierd I wonder how that happened. I thought mold couldn't germinate on coir and that it only contams if you introduce it in the spawn I've seen someone someone, munchauzen I believe, say that he's let coir sit for months.
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Ullr
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Dunno, but I had to toss two out of three shoeboxes of this batch before full colonization due to trich AND cobweb-like mold growing on the uncolonized parts of the top layer of coir. I'm gonna run some more empty coir tests to see if the same keeps happening. I have a huge brick of this coir and I really hope it's not entirely compromised, but it's looking bad.
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