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addiction (to opiates especially) is living in bondage. You no longer have freedom of mind. you'll end up sacrificing most of your self value and self esteem as It takes control of your life. It is not enjoyable, its the very opposite of "fun" you will no longer experience any real joy. Then when you run out it is debilitating. It is something I would not wish on my worst enemy. I have no sense of humor anymore. I cant laugh. It would really be nice to return to the point where I do not need a substance or another human (a man) to make me feel good. that is the point you'll reach, because addiction always progresses.
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 Re: I truly love opiates  [Re: sprinkles]
#25086475 - 03/24/18 03:18 AM (6 years, 25 days ago) |
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Never too late to get help sprinks, except when you're dead.
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Re: I truly love opiates [Re: mndfreeze]
#25086485 - 03/24/18 03:32 AM (6 years, 25 days ago) |
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the only person who can help me is me, it seems. because nothing anyone says or does seems to do have any affect.
I want my magic wand. its my magic wand and I need it now. Realistically i think all it would take is a change of environment for a week. I can easily build on that time. Id have to go somewhere that is relaxing and has neat things to see, and keep me busy. that is not an institution like a rehab or a jail. that is the opposite of what someone like me needs.
Learning new things and skills will enable a person to start to changing their behavior, I believe, is the only way to cure or fix a person who struggles with addiction. that allows the brain to start making new connections and start fuctioning differently....thru neuroplasticity.
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Re: I truly love opiates [Re: sprinkles]
#25086531 - 03/24/18 04:43 AM (6 years, 25 days ago) |
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sprinkles said:
the only person who can help me is me, it seems. .
Smartest thing I've ever seen you say.
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Re: I truly love opiates [Re: mndfreeze] 9
#25086695 - 03/24/18 07:40 AM (6 years, 25 days ago) |
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Nobody ever seems to realize that nearly every single addict started off with occasional use and had full control over it at first, never meaning for it to become a full time thing.
I used once a week, then less, then less... then had a summer off. Then back to once a week, but things were different then, and slowly the frequency crept up. It's nothing you can consciously explain. There's no real consequences at first so you don't see the harm in stepping up to twice a week every now and then. You begin to think about it when you don't have it, looking forward to your "on" days and becoming slightly less engaged with the things in your life that actually matter. Nothing can compare.
It's like you're in a room with a very slow carbon monoxide leak, by the time you realize something is off it very well may be too late. Yea, it's one of the best short-term pleasurable feelings on the planet. I had to change my entire philosophy, and accept that I don't enjoy life as much when my goal is chasing pleasures. There's always a down to the up, a lot of times it's difficult to pinpoint what that down is when your mind is on getting high.
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Re: I truly love opiates [Re: feevers]
#25086714 - 03/24/18 07:56 AM (6 years, 25 days ago) |
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feevers said:
Nobody ever seems to realize that nearly every single addict started off with occasional use and had full control over it at first, never meaning for it to become a full time thing.
I used once a week, then less, then less... then had a summer off. Then back to once a week, but things were different then, and slowly the frequency crept up. It's nothing you can consciously explain. There's no real consequences at first so you don't see the harm in stepping up to twice a week every now and then. You begin to think about it when you don't have it, looking forward to your "on" days and becoming slightly less engaged with the things in your life that actually matter. Nothing can compare.
It's like you're in a room with a very slow carbon monoxide leak, by the time you realize something is off it very well may be too late. Yea, it's one of the best short-term pleasurable feelings on the planet. I had to change my entire philosophy, and accept that I don't enjoy life as much when my goal is chasing pleasures. There's always a down to the up, a lot of times it's difficult to pinpoint what that down is when your mind is on getting high.
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I'm an opiate addict and I'm not happy at all with them in my life.
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theyd be cooler if they didn't kill you so easily
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Re: I truly love opiates [Re: feevers] 1
#25087175 - 03/24/18 01:02 PM (6 years, 25 days ago) |
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feevers said:
Nobody ever seems to realize that nearly every single addict started off with occasional use and had full control over it at first, never meaning for it to become a full time thing.
I used once a week, then less, then less... then had a summer off. Then back to once a week, but things were different then, and slowly the frequency crept up. It's nothing you can consciously explain. There's no real consequences at first so you don't see the harm in stepping up to twice a week every now and then. You begin to think about it when you don't have it, looking forward to your "on" days and becoming slightly less engaged with the things in your life that actually matter. Nothing can compare.
It's like you're in a room with a very slow carbon monoxide leak, by the time you realize something is off it very well may be too late. Yea, it's one of the best short-term pleasurable feelings on the planet. I had to change my entire philosophy, and accept that I don't enjoy life as much when my goal is chasing pleasures. There's always a down to the up, a lot of times it's difficult to pinpoint what that down is when your mind is on getting high.
its natural for us humans to seek pleasure and avoid pain. and what all addicts have in common is a disconnection from the divine and one another.
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Re: I truly love opiates [Re: thelanzii] 1
#25087183 - 03/24/18 01:07 PM (6 years, 25 days ago) |
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EtherealMind said:
theyd be cooler if they didn't kill you so easily
Death aside they're pretty fucked regardless.
People like to throw around overdose rates and such and yes they're terrifying but more terrifying is the junkie who never cleans up or wait far too long and is stuck playing catch up for the remainder of their short life.
Opiates will fuck you over long before they kill you, in most cases of addiction.
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Re: I truly love opiates [Re: thelanzii]
#25087195 - 03/24/18 01:16 PM (6 years, 25 days ago) |
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You cant blame them, they dont jump in your nose or viens, it is you and only you that puts it in your body, you an only you have control and if your physically dependent you can step down doses, whether u say u can or you cant your right either way.
Eat your shrooms
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I never liked opiates that much. I had some good experiences on mild stuff. When I got a script last year after surgery I liked the high, very pleasant you go from pain to feeling on top of the world. Its an anti depressant at least in the early stages. I still have nearly half of my script left for when I need it. Didnt even use all the doc said to use and cut back to 1 tab then 1/2 etc and quit.
Years ago I tried demerol and it was like nothing, nothing good. Had a strong effect got me fucked up but I like pot better. I guess I'm just not cut out to be a junkie, failed at junk, lol
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#25088371 - 03/24/18 10:20 PM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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feevers said:
Nobody ever seems to realize that nearly every single addict started off with occasional use and had full control over it at first, never meaning for it to become a full time thing.
I used once a week, then less, then less... then had a summer off. Then back to once a week, but things were different then, and slowly the frequency crept up. It's nothing you can consciously explain. There's no real consequences at first so you don't see the harm in stepping up to twice a week every now and then. You begin to think about it when you don't have it, looking forward to your "on" days and becoming slightly less engaged with the things in your life that actually matter. Nothing can compare.
It's like you're in a room with a very slow carbon monoxide leak, by the time you realize something is off it very well may be too late. Yea, it's one of the best short-term pleasurable feelings on the planet. I had to change my entire philosophy, and accept that I don't enjoy life as much when my goal is chasing pleasures. There's always a down to the up, a lot of times it's difficult to pinpoint what that down is when your mind is on getting high.
Yeah, it took me well over 5 or 6 years to get hooked on pills, and then I swore I'd never do heroin, only pills because they are clean... Well that lasted a few more years and then the heroin came, delivered to my door by mexican cartel guys every day or whenever I needed to hook up.
Thankfully I at least knew better to avoid the needle.
I'm been off heroin for 5 years. I still have issues related to my use then.
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Re: I truly love opiates [Re: mndfreeze]
#25088891 - 03/25/18 07:52 AM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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what issues do you still have from the former h use?
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Quote:
LemurLemur said:
You cant blame them, they dont jump in your nose or viens, it is you and only you that puts it in your body, you an only you have control and if your physically dependent you can step down doses, whether u say u can or you cant your right either way.
Eat your shrooms
eat your vegetables!
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Re: I truly love opiates [Re: thelanzii]
#25089357 - 03/25/18 11:36 AM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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Opiates are pfrfrfrft. *insert fart sound*
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And have been on the brink of addiction to them for years, the only thing holding me back is that ive never found a solid connection. I could totally see myself addicted to heroin, which honestly scares me. If i met someone who sold heroin, I would jump on the "opportunity" to try it again, and if he was a solid connect keep buying it.
Its scary because opiates are like a wonder drug for me. They provide stress relief, anxiety relief, strong euphoria and warmth, and a sense of "fufilment". Basically everything I wanted to get from weed before I tried it (minus the warmth), but weed ended up being nothing I thought. Then I tried opiates and they were everything I thought weed would be. And its like ive always been missing something in my life and Im no longer missing it when I get so high im nodding.
Unlike other drugs, I still get as high on opiates as I did 8 years ago. The only difference is a tiny bit of tolerance that appears when I get access to them (normally through a doctor, occasionally through stealing. Which, btw, I feel like shit about, but its like i cant stop myself when I get the opportunity), and friends. I use them for a few weeks uncontrolably, then dont have anymore for 6 months. Unless I make poppy seed tea, which is great, but not quite the same as oxycodone.
This is another reason why I wish I could control myself. I could of made those 60 10mg oxycodone pills last about a year if I only dosed once a month.
Anyway, I guess I just had been thinking about this because for whatever reason, ive been intensely craving some opiates the past few days. And id jump right the fuck on the chance to get a ton of them if I could, which really scares me
i love em too, man. but just know that the human being wasnt meant to ever feel that good, so there comes major consequences.
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Quote:
xbloodwhipx said:
And have been on the brink of addiction to them for years, the only thing holding me back is that ive never found a solid connection. I could totally see myself addicted to heroin, which honestly scares me. If i met someone who sold heroin, I would jump on the "opportunity" to try it again, and if he was a solid connect keep buying it.
Its scary because opiates are like a wonder drug for me. They provide stress relief, anxiety relief, strong euphoria and warmth, and a sense of "fufilment". Basically everything I wanted to get from weed before I tried it (minus the warmth), but weed ended up being nothing I thought. Then I tried opiates and they were everything I thought weed would be. And its like ive always been missing something in my life and Im no longer missing it when I get so high im nodding.
Unlike other drugs, I still get as high on opiates as I did 8 years ago. The only difference is a tiny bit of tolerance that appears when I get access to them (normally through a doctor, occasionally through stealing. Which, btw, I feel like shit about, but its like i cant stop myself when I get the opportunity), and friends. I use them for a few weeks uncontrolably, then dont have anymore for 6 months. Unless I make poppy seed tea, which is great, but not quite the same as oxycodone.
This is another reason why I wish I could control myself. I could of made those 60 10mg oxycodone pills last about a year if I only dosed once a month.
Anyway, I guess I just had been thinking about this because for whatever reason, ive been intensely craving some opiates the past few days. And id jump right the fuck on the chance to get a ton of them if I could, which really scares me
Sounds like a slippery slope, dude.
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It sounds like you should lay of em easy. As you stated you already are fine with stealing from others; & using to "nod".
Micro-dosing natural opiates gives day-long energy, anti-anxiety, & can be perfectly safe. Cost is roughly $5 a day so no need to steal, and natural opiates meaning no man-made chems, no needles, no insufflation. Being that your use doesn't fall into this, I would say better safe then sorry on this one.
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Opiates do get you pretty ripped. Some of the best drugs out there, honest to god. Too bad they can, and have, left so much destruction in their wake. A special class of substance which demands respect and honed skills of self-control. Even better, complete abstinence. 
I don't think I'd object to being high on opiates regularly, but I mean that's the trap.
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