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Harvest timing and potency
    #25070141 - 03/17/18 04:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hello all,
I have heard the best time to harvest is right before the veil is about to break away from the cap. I went on vacation to a s.f.g. With eight empty cakes and came back to three nice golden teachers that dropped spores everywhere. My question is how big of a problem is this? Also since I’m here already my cakes have fruited FIVE times. Will the cakes themselves start to give off fruits with less potency.  Thanks


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: Premont]
    #25070147 - 03/17/18 05:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I call bs on that wife's tale untill you show me results from a mass spectrometer.
Ive had some ripen for a few days extra and theyre still wowzers:eek:
Spores are just looks.
No, if theyre is its unnoticeable.


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: Premont]
    #25070148 - 03/17/18 05:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No potency isnt affected in later flushes.  Spores dropping isnt a problem. Shrooms tend to taste like shit after spores drop tho. As far as potency, im not sold on the whole loss of potency after the veil breaks. They probably do stop producing psilo's but the magic thats in there isnt gonna get weaker.


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: nube424]
    #25070152 - 03/17/18 05:22 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Shrooms don't lose psilocybin after they ejaculate spores.

It's theorized that they just don't produce AS MUCH as they did when they were still growing.

Therefore your dry weight goes up but the actives content doesn't go up at the same proportion it did before. So the potency by weight has technically gone down but you haven't magically lost any psilocybin.


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25070157 - 03/17/18 05:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What evidence did use to come up with that theory? Link?


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25070160 - 03/17/18 05:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

He said its theorized. Nobody knows for sure. Any link u get sent to wont have any evidence lol. Theres no real way to test it anyway. Theres more things that effect the intensity of a trip other than just the amount of chemicals u ingest. Hallucinogens arent like cocaine. Ive had one does barely get me high, then the same dose from the same batch of shrooms will put me in orbit next time. So its impossible to test just by eating them. We'd need very expensive machines.


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: nube424]
    #25070162 - 03/17/18 05:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

To make a theory you need some sorta evidence to support it other wise your just talking about stuff u just made up.

Why would mushrooms stop production? Why i say!:megacrankey:


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25070168 - 03/17/18 06:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I agree with u. I wanna see some evidence too. But it does make sense, its at the end of its life cycle. Marijuana stops producing thc at the end of its life cycle. But if psilo production and growth slows down at the same rate, it wouldnt effect potency


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25070169 - 03/17/18 06:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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To make a theory you need some sorta evidence to support it other wise your just talking about stuff u just made up.

Why would mushrooms stop production? Why i say!:megacrankey:




The only evidence the community can provide is personal experience. We have a lot of experienced trippers here and IN GENERAL it seems people can tell the difference between an 8th of pins and an 8th of spore covered inverted caps.

I say it produces LESS because I agree that the idea that the organism completely stops production is kinda ridiculous to me but it would make sense if a portion of energy that would normally be spent producing actives got allocated to reproduction.


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25070179 - 03/17/18 06:28 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

More appropriate word is guess*


Hhhmm maybe they only produce while pinning.... fuck somebody here has access to the equipment to answer this. Whoever you are risk your job for science!


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25070182 - 03/17/18 06:40 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Isolate a strain. Harvest shrooms at every stage in growth and test the potency. Not diffinitive proof but u may find something out on ur own


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25070332 - 03/17/18 09:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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To make a theory you need some sorta evidence to support it other wise your just talking about stuff u just made up.

Why would mushrooms stop production? Why i say!:megacrankey:



Paul stamets has come up with lots of idiotic theories that are circulated as facts.


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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25077976 - 03/20/18 05:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

LemurLemur said:
To make a theory you need some sorta evidence to support it other wise your just talking about stuff u just made up.

Why would mushrooms stop production? Why i say!:megacrankey:



Paul stamets has come up with lots of idiotic theories that are circulated as facts.



i found this information from RR on why shrooms don't have more active compounds after the veil breaks

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If you gag on every bite, then sit during your come-up time trying not to puke, it's no fun. There is no increase in the number of cells in a mushroom after the veil tears, therefore no new active compounds are made. The cells that are already there simply fill up with water. That means the actives that are in a fresly opened cap are the same actives that are in a huge, umbrella shaped, black spore covered cap, but you have to eat more to get them. When we say there is little to no loss of potency, that's what we mean. None was lost, but none was gained either. Only mass was gained, thus you gag more for the same amount. That's what I mean by poor food quality. As for developing allergies, mine have all come in the last few years as I've researched many species. I often have a few hundred jars and up to several hundred spawn bags going at any one time. This has been my full time job since I've been working on my dvd. I quit my job over a year ago, so I've been exposed to a lot of mushroom spores in that time. All of them legal edibles, by the way. The worst for causing allergic reactions is Hypsizygus ulmarium, but cubensis spores will clog up a humidifier filter in no time, and ruin the motor bushings as well. Cube spores will also foul hygrometers, and if you have a computer in the room with your grow, it will destroy the cooling fans, and if they get into the hard drive, will destroy it as well




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Re: Harvest timing and potency [Re: thelanzii]
    #25078001 - 03/20/18 05:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, lots of interesting info there. Spores will screw up electronics real bad.


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