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OfflineActinomorphic
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Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got....
    #16778951 - 09/02/12 10:05 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I recentaly ordered an ounce? of "green vein thai" Kratom, touted by the vendor to have "superior alkaloid content than that of bali".

It definitely appears to be true because I took two small spoonfuls the other day and got really edgy, anxious and accompanying feelings of short breath.

I now only take one or so with similar results.

Initially I feel nice but it wears off quickly and becomes uncomfortable... It almost turns me off of Kratom as an anxiety remedy.

Not very opiate like at all and not like other kratom i've tried.

What can anybody make of this? Similar experiences with different "strains"?


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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: Actinomorphic]
    #16779017 - 09/02/12 10:20 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

:mmmkay:


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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #16779024 - 09/02/12 10:21 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Kratom at lower doses is a stimulant, isn't it?


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OfflineActinomorphic
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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #16779097 - 09/02/12 10:36 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah I suppose however I've tried other Kratom at lower doses and had no problems at all. I'm not too inclined to down even more of the product to see if it has a reverse effect.

I suspect that there is a higher concentration of some other chemical in there that is responsible.

I'm getting the impression that this is an odd post... And might be in the wrong place? just thought it was weird.


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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: Actinomorphic]
    #16779206 - 09/02/12 10:58 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Well, there's a lot of different kratom out there, so it probably all doesn't feel the same :shrug:

I on the other hand, am feeling great with my kratom!!!! :datass:


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But we both know if we stick together, we'll just tear ourselves apart
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine, you make me happy, when skies are grey
You are my heroin, but there's an abscess... God damn, I miss the vein!

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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: Actinomorphic]
    #16779209 - 09/02/12 10:59 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I've used Kratom for almost two years, tons of different strains, and this sounds like it was laced with something. Some vendors are known to mix it with bath salts, particularly o-desmethyltramadol, as well as caffeine. Kratom usually helps with anxiety... some energetic strains can make it worse I think, but physical symptoms like that seem pretty unusual.

Would you mind saying who this stuff came from? (is that against the rules?)

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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: Actinomorphic]
    #16779220 - 09/02/12 11:01 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

You might get more replies (and/or more knowledgeable replies) if you post this in the Other Drugs Discussion forum.  I personally have never used Kratom so I can't help you.

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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: serpentsgaze]
    #16779251 - 09/02/12 11:08 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

This vendor is not a sponsor and I can't mention them, but I have ordered good Kratom from them before. :confused:
But who knows! Bath salts? I've read about the o-desmethyltramadol, is that a bath salt?? Tramadol was always nice...

And sanchothestoner, ... But you're probably right.

I am hoping my Kratom tree does not come to grace me with a product of this quality...


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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: Actinomorphic]
    #16779281 - 09/02/12 11:16 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know much about kratom though... today has been my first day on it.  So, don't take my words too seriously :P


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I fucking hate you... God damn, I love you...
But we both know if we stick together, we'll just tear ourselves apart
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine, you make me happy, when skies are grey
You are my heroin, but there's an abscess... God damn, I miss the vein!

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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #16779296 - 09/02/12 11:19 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Oh well welcome to kratom! What kind are you trying? Maeng Da?

And HB I am too much of a newb apparantly to access this ODD forum. :<
I guess the pub will have to do.


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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: Actinomorphic]
    #16779318 - 09/02/12 11:23 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Actinomorphic said:
And HB I am too much of a newb apparantly to access this ODD forum. :<
I guess the pub will have to do.




That's too bad, I had no idea you needed a minimum post count to post in there.

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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: HB]
    #16779322 - 09/02/12 11:24 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I actually, with this post just attained the minumum post. But still have 8 days to go! XD


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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: HB]
    #16779341 - 09/02/12 11:26 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not entirely sure... red vein something.  It's good though!!! 600mg pills, and I took 10 and some weed! :feelshighman:


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I fucking hate you... God damn, I love you...
But we both know if we stick together, we'll just tear ourselves apart
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine, you make me happy, when skies are grey
You are my heroin, but there's an abscess... God damn, I miss the vein!

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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #16779372 - 09/02/12 11:33 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Nice:thumbup: For me the two counteracted together. :frown:

I also find it more enjoyable to wash down pure powder without the gelatin caps. Something you may want to investigate, I hate the feeling of 10 gelatin capsules in my stomach, acts much quicker.:grin:


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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: Actinomorphic]
    #16779384 - 09/02/12 11:35 PM (11 years, 5 months ago)

Each to his own! I like this feeling, but I don't think it's that great.  I'll probably go through the 2 oz. and not do it again.


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I fucking hate you... God damn, I love you...
But we both know if we stick together, we'll just tear ourselves apart
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine, you make me happy, when skies are grey
You are my heroin, but there's an abscess... God damn, I miss the vein!

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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: Actinomorphic]
    #25069967 - 03/16/18 11:57 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

People suffering from social anxiety disorder are self-conscious, shy and feel embarrassed.There are also physical symptoms such as stress, excessive sweating and nervousness that often leads to a loss of words. A small dosage of Kratom is deemed highly effective for combating social anxiety. It basically serves as an opioid blocker for relieving feelings of pain, distress or tension in the same way as an anti-anxiety medication, but without their consequences and risks.

Edited by AngelaMackenzie (03/16/18 11:58 PM)

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Re: Getting weird anxiety from new strain of Kratom I got.... [Re: AngelaMackenzie]
    #25070049 - 03/17/18 12:45 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

holy necro...

are you a bot?


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