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Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong?
    #25059709 - 03/13/18 01:03 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

So I had a spore print laying around Idk what "variety" I fruited it and it produced small ass fruits about 2" when dried they become tiny AF. So I took a clone from a few big fruits it did produce and agared it about 5 transfers to make sure it was clean and then tried again this time all little 2" fruits.

So am I looking at having genetics stuck in small fruit land with this spore print and clone of big fruit or am I doing something majorly wrong that's preventing them from growing big?

This tub is 3 quarts spawn and 6 quarts coir verm. The picture is what it did in 12hrs I'm sure by morning I'll have mostly open caps and need to harvest my small little guys. Also how would one harvest these twist/rip out or cut out?



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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: more4u2c]
    #25059720 - 03/13/18 01:21 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Those guys arn't done growing yet. They look spectacular! Good job! :thumbup:


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25059722 - 03/13/18 01:23 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Also, with monos it is better to cut to keep the substrate intact. Don't worry about the stumps.

You can get away with twist and pull on cakes.


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25059725 - 03/13/18 01:27 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Let them grow till flat or wavy caps if you want bigger fruits then let them grow bigger lol but nice grow man! I'm interested in the dried weight.


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: Shrooms4life]
    #25059763 - 03/13/18 02:18 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Def snap a pic right before harvest. They might be a little small for your taste, but there's a shit load of em!


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: RomeoPapa]
    #25060439 - 03/13/18 09:15 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Clone the biggest/largest clusters and keep it movin!


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: UnsungHero]
    #25060450 - 03/13/18 09:20 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

If this dude has lurked and studied up enough to do successful tubs that look damn good and agar work and all that without knowing when to harvest from looking at peoples pin porn all day, id say this dude deserves a round of applause.

Complete opposite of so many posters. Im blown away right now if that is really what happened

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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: UnsungHero]
    #25060453 - 03/13/18 09:21 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

try cutting back on the water in your bulk sub. my shrooms always look like that when im too wet. clones or no clones.

just my opinion:douchewink:


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: mushboy]
    #25060528 - 03/13/18 10:07 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

So here's what they look like this morning going to start harvesting this mass of tiny fruits. I don't want to wait for them to open up and spore dump all over the place gotta be at work in an hour so it's choppy choppy time!



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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: more4u2c]
    #25060533 - 03/13/18 10:09 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

You can leave the more immature ones for another day if u want and only harvest the ones u think may drop


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: more4u2c]
    #25060837 - 03/14/18 12:17 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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more4u2c said:
So here's what they look like this morning going to start harvesting this mass of tiny fruits. I don't want to wait for them to open up and spore dump all over the place gotta be at work in an hour so it's choppy choppy time!






I know youre not wild about the small size but that is a great looking tub.


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25060841 - 03/14/18 12:18 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

They’re most potent when veiled - before the caps open up


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: Buckthorn]
    #25060889 - 03/14/18 12:35 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

damn you got that dense of fruits from only 3 quarts of spawn to 6 quarts of coir?? thats amazing !


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: john_conner]
    #25060896 - 03/14/18 12:38 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

So they're only 2" long when harvested at full maturity? From the top down you can't tell.

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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: Humble Newcomer]
    #25061013 - 03/14/18 01:23 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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So they're only 2" long when harvested at full maturity? From the top down you can't tell.

Rocking pinset





Yeah I'd say the average is 2" fresh there are a lot on 1" guys and a few maybe 3 inch guys but most fall at around 2 inches fresh. And this is at the time the veil breaks not full maturity sporlation time


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: more4u2c]
    #25061778 - 03/14/18 08:27 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

So should I now bottom water the tub or should I let it go onto flush #2. The bulk block has shrunk and pulled away from the tub so I'm assuming that means it's no longer full of water and needs some replenishing... Also will the 2nd flush pop up on top of the old cut fruit ends or will it only pop up from non fruited areas? Cuz there really isn't much area untouched fromnthe first flush lol


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: more4u2c]
    #25061825 - 03/14/18 09:19 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Waited to do half the tub that wasn't ready for when I got home from work and they freaking opened up damn it! Lol



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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: more4u2c]
    #25061967 - 03/14/18 01:15 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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more4u2c said: The bulk block has shrunk and pulled away from the tub so I'm assuming that means it's no longer full of water and needs some replenishing...




My understanding is that it's mainly due to the mycelium eating the substrate, water loss will be a factor but not as much as people think. Otherwise after dunking, the substrate would get bigger :shrug:


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: MrRabbit-HMR]
    #25062047 - 03/14/18 02:54 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I prefer the smaller shrooms, only eat a bit of crackers then :trippinbawelz:

Its not the sub drying out per sae, when it drys out to much the myc network shinks it will never return to original size because of that.

I had a 5 month old tub that didnt shrink at all because it never got that dry were the myc was sqeezing every drop it could to support the whole network.


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Re: Are these small fruits just genetics or am I doing something wrong? [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25062081 - 03/14/18 03:26 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I'm curious if that's true if the myc has eaten away some mass of the sub and that's why it doesn't fully reinflate after soaking.

OP do you prefer to eat them small before they open or are u super paranoid about spores being dumped, those all opened up yeah but they look gorgeous to me, don't appear to have dropped. That seems like prime picking time to me, no?


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