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Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil
    #25058161 - 03/12/18 11:37 AM (6 years, 17 days ago)

This is what a real leader who isn't being blackmailed by Putin sounds like

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/mar/12/sadiq-khan-to-accuse-politicians-of-dereliction-of-duty-in-allowing-tech-giants-to-reshape-world-politics-live?page=with:block-5aa6b7b7e4b0ccc2e5bc54ae#block-5aa6b7b7e4b0ccc2e5bc54ae

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Mr Speaker, there are therefore only two plausible explanations for what happened in Salisbury on the 4 March.

Either this was a direct act by the Russian State against our country.

Or the Russian government lost control of this potentially catastrophically damaging nerve agent and allowed it to get into the hands of others.




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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods]
    #25058182 - 03/12/18 11:51 AM (6 years, 17 days ago)

Supposedly they can analyze the sample and figure out where it originated from. Wonder what they're going to do about it if it came from Russia (which I bet it did).

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods] * 1
    #25058428 - 03/12/18 02:10 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

Fuck the Brits.  They burned the White House down.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods]
    #25058471 - 03/12/18 02:30 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

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This is what a real leader who isn't being blackmailed by Putin sounds like

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Mr Speaker, there are therefore only two plausible explanations for what happened in Salisbury on the 4 March.

Either this was a direct act by the Russian State against our country.

Or the Russian government lost control of this potentially catastrophically damaging nerve agent and allowed it to get into the hands of others.






Do you seriously believe those are the only two possibilities?!?  I can think of at least 1/2 dozen more right off the top of my head.

And is evidence no longer important?  Do we just blame the Russian Government on everything until proven innocent?


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25058477 - 03/12/18 02:34 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

Everything?  This is a bit more specific than that, but you already know that.  This man was a Russian double agent.  He was attacked by a substance developed by Russia.  Could someone else have done it?  Sure.  The evidence now points to Russia, though.

If a man is murdered, and he had a fight with his wife the day before, the wife will be a suspect.  Now, if he was murdered by a very rare gun that only a few people in the world, including his wife, has, that will make her a much more likely suspect.  That's pretty much what we have here.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil]
    #25058683 - 03/12/18 03:57 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

Russia is the only country with nerve agents?!?  I already explained that Sergei Skripal was imprisoned in Russia and could have been killed there if Russia wanted him dead.

It might be Russia, but it certainly might not be.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25058686 - 03/12/18 03:58 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

Are they?  You're the only one I've heard say that.  Do you have a source?

I seriously doubt that they would have been able to use him for a spy swap if he was dead.  Swapping him alive served a purpose.  Killing him and his daughter now serves another:  Sending a message to others who might be considering similar betrayals.



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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil]
    #25058769 - 03/12/18 04:42 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

I wonder how many Russian intelligence agents have to die mysterious deaths before fal believes Putin is a murderous thug.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods] * 2
    #25058810 - 03/12/18 04:55 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

If fal said putin is a murderous thug, we would be hearing about fal being poisoned by a nerve agent.

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil]
    #25058816 - 03/12/18 04:58 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

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Fuck the Brits.  They burned the White House down.




Yea, but in retaliation for the US burning the city of York Ont (today's Toronto), the year before.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/2013/04/21/the_battle_of_york_200_years_ago_shaped_toronto_and_canada_editorial.html


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: sweeper54]
    #25058821 - 03/12/18 04:59 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

That makes it okay?


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil]
    #25058871 - 03/12/18 05:23 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

Yea, it's called War, get over it. It was 200 years ago.

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: sweeper54] * 2
    #25058876 - 03/12/18 05:25 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

Easy for you to say.  You probably weren't even born yet.  I remember it like it was yesterday.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #25059060 - 03/12/18 06:54 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

Aren’t you Chinese ?


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #25059149 - 03/12/18 07:56 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

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If a man is murdered, and he had a fight with his wife the day before, the wife will be a suspect.  Now, if he was murdered by a very rare gun that only a few people in the world, including his wife, has, that will make her a much more likely suspect.  That's pretty much what we have here.



I can think of many other possibilities as well: 

If the British Government discovered that Sergei Skripal was working for Russia again, they might have done this.  Perfect timing right before the Russian elections to make Putin look bad too!

Look, I don't know who did it, and neither does anyone.  But it sure is fun to blame the Russians when you don't have evidence, isn't it?


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25059183 - 03/12/18 08:09 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

That's pure speculation.  There is evidence that Russia did it.  There is none that the brits did.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil]
    #25059187 - 03/12/18 08:11 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

Trump hasn't tweeted about it, so it's Putin


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #25059209 - 03/12/18 08:24 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

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That's pure speculation.  There is evidence that Russia did it.  There is none that the brits did.



Yes, that is pure speculation.  Now, what is the evidence that Russia did it?


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25059213 - 03/12/18 08:28 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

Motive - Russia has a reason to want him dead.

Weapon - very rare weapon that was developed by Russia.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil]
    #25059228 - 03/12/18 08:36 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

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Weapon - very rare weapon that was developed by Russia.



People have called Putin a genius for hiding his collaboration with Trump so well.

Now you're saying he signed his name on Sergei Skripal's murder???

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