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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27872907 - 07/22/22 01:19 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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There is a tendency for people who oppose Putin to be dead, in prison, or living in exile. This includes politicians, journalists, and more than a few oligarchs. It does make for orderly elections.



Same thing with Hillary Clinton, but even more so.




Lol what a joke. The fact that anyone ever took you seriously :facepalm:


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods]
    #27872928 - 07/22/22 01:32 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily
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WND (formerly WorldNetDaily)[1] is an American far-right[9] news and opinion website and online news aggregator. The website is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories[17] and publishing fake news.[22]





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WorldNetDaily is an online publication founded and run by Joseph Farah that claims to pursue truth, justice and liberty. But in fact, its pages are devoted to manipulative fear-mongering and outright fabrications designed to further the paranoid, gay-hating, conspiratorial and apocalyptic visions of Farah and his hand-picked contributors from the fringes of the far-right and fundamentalist worlds.




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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27872931 - 07/22/22 01:35 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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It is absolutely wrong for us to not support the Russian invasion of Ukraine in the name of Russification and trumped up evidence.



I didn't say anyone had to support the invasion; I simply gave the reasons that the mainstream media doesn't tell you about so people better understand.



And based on your choices of news sources, I think the goal is actually for people to understand less.

Lol, WND? And you want people to take you seriously? JFC, that's a brand new low. Are you gonna cite weekly world news next?

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Kryptos]
    #27872935 - 07/22/22 01:39 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Lol what a joke. The fact that anyone ever took you seriously :facepalm:



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WND (formerly WorldNetDaily)[1] is an American far-right[9] news and opinion website and online news aggregator. The website is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories[17] and publishing fake news.[22]






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Lol, WND? And you want people to take you seriously? JFC, that's a brand new low. Are you gonna cite weekly world news next?



So why don't any of you tell me which of the deaths aren't real?  :popcorn:

My point is that it's the same thing with Putin.  Mysterious deaths that people just blindly say "DURRR, PUTIN DID IT!!!"


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27872938 - 07/22/22 01:42 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

People dying isn't in dispute. People dying because of Hillary Clinton is.

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Kryptos]
    #27872940 - 07/22/22 01:42 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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People dying isn't in dispute. People dying because of Hillary Clinton is.



EXACTLY.  People dying because of Putin is also in dispute; that was my point.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27872941 - 07/22/22 01:44 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

Yeah, there's a whole lot more evidence of one compared to the other.

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27872952 - 07/22/22 01:56 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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People dying isn't in dispute. People dying because of Hillary Clinton is.



EXACTLY.  People dying because of Putin is also in dispute; that was my point.




Your point was to make a fool of yourself by posting a WND article about the Clinton body count?


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Asante]
    #27872953 - 07/22/22 01:57 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Its BS that Novichok can only be made by Russia,



Nobody ever said that, though, and nobody even said the nerve agent was made by Russia.  It was, however, used by three russians in an attempt to kill two people and it did kill a third person.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Kryptos]
    #27873004 - 07/22/22 02:52 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Yeah, there's a whole lot more evidence of one compared to the other.



No, there's zero evidence for either.

Alexander Litvinenko's death might have been tied to the Government since he was a KGB agent guilty of treason, the punishment for which is death, but even so, do you have evidence Putin was behind it?  I'm all ears.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil]
    #27873009 - 07/22/22 02:55 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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It was, however, used by three russians in an attempt to kill two people and it did kill a third person.



Do you have evidence of that?  Or do you believe every guess the Western Governments have about this?


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27873015 - 07/22/22 03:01 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Yeah, there's a whole lot more evidence of one compared to the other.



No, there's zero evidence for either.

Alexander Litvinenko's death might have been tied to the Government since he was a KGB agent guilty of treason, the punishment for which is death, but even so, do you have evidence Putin was behind it?  I'm all ears.




There's a lot of evidence that Putin, or his people, were behind the murder. You don't believe it, but that's partly because I don't think you'd believe a signed copy of an admission of guilt handwritten by Putin himself.

The fact that you're comparing some right wing crackpot to a fairly detailed examination by the British government tells me all I need to know, as far as your "standards" of evidence. But this is true for your entire argumentative style, you demand significantly more evidence from others than you do for your own points.

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Kryptos]
    #27873027 - 07/22/22 03:10 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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There's a lot of evidence that Putin, or his people, were behind the murder. You don't believe it, but that's partly because I don't think you'd believe a signed copy of an admission of guilt handwritten by Putin himself.



I'm not looking for a signed copy of an admission.  I'm looking for "a lot of evidence" per your claim.

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The fact that you're comparing some right wing crackpot to a fairly detailed examination by the British government tells me all I need to know, as far as your "standards" of evidence.



So you've got nothing, yet again.  I thought so.

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But this is true for your entire argumentative style, you demand significantly more evidence from others than you do for your own points.



What claims have I made that you feel I don't have sufficient evidence for?


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27873068 - 07/22/22 03:50 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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What claims have I made that you feel I don't have sufficient evidence for?



How about this one.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27861213#27861213

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #27873074 - 07/22/22 03:57 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

You still haven't answered my question because you know it's a catch 22.

If you say of course Eastern Ukraine should resist, then resistance isn't aggression, it's defense.  If you say they shouldn't resist, then you admit the US should be allowed to take over the world without resistance.

So which is it?  :popcorn:

Anyone here should feel free to answer the question.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Kwyjibo] * 1
    #27873076 - 07/22/22 03:58 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

:presidential:

Sans the dick in mouth, when I saw this video of Hilary’s reaction to the fireworks display, I knew there was no chance in hell that I would vote for her no matter how repellent Trump  may be.
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What claims have I made that you feel I don't have sufficient evidence for?



How about this one.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27861213#27861213




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As I've said many times, some believe the US should be able to coup whomever we like without resistance.




Elon Musk literally tweeted that. It was about Venezuela or Bolivia or some other Latin American country. I believe they had a lithium reserve he wanted.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27873083 - 07/22/22 04:06 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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You still haven't answered my question because you know it's a catch 22.

If you say of course Eastern Ukraine should resist, then resistance isn't aggression, it's defense.  If you say they shouldn't resist, then you admit the US should be allowed to take over the world without resistance.

So which is it?  :popcorn:

Anyone here should feel free to answer the question.



As I have said, an answer to your question isn’t necessary to answer mine. We both know you haven’t answered because you can’t so you just keep running away and trying to deflect or change the subject. Going to come up with a name or are you going to continue to lie?

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27873095 - 07/22/22 04:16 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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You still haven't answered my question because you know it's a catch 22.

If you say of course Eastern Ukraine should resist, then resistance isn't aggression, it's defense.  If you say they shouldn't resist, then you admit the US should be allowed to take over the world without resistance.

So which is it?  :popcorn:

Anyone here should feel free to answer the question.




What does resistance to the Ukrainian government by separatists have to do with the multiple invasions and occupations now carried out by Russian military forces within the territory of Ukraine?  Has someone here argued that they don't have the right to attempt self-determination?  I don't remember reading that.  As far as I can tell, people seem to take issue with the invasion and occupation by Russian forces, not the resistance of Eastern Ukrainian separatists themselves.

You're really reaching here but I'll give you a chance to be consistent in your ideology:

If Russia has a right to directly intervene militarily in the internal affairs of Ukraine on behalf of eastern Ukrainian separatists then it must follow that you agree that the U.S. has a right to directly intervene militarily in the internal affairs of Syria on behalf of Syrian resistance fighters.  True or False?


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #27873106 - 07/22/22 04:29 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

I think we both know that FW doesn't answer questions like that, he only responds with an irrelevant counter question, then demands that you answer his series of counter questions while promising that he might answer yours after.

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27873107 - 07/22/22 04:30 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

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Yeah, there's a whole lot more evidence of one compared to the other.



No, there's zero evidence for either.

Alexander Litvinenko's death might have been tied to the Government since he was a KGB agent guilty of treason, the punishment for which is death, but even so, do you have evidence Putin was behind it?  I'm all ears.




He was poisoned with an element of which the only source is the waste product of the fission of uranium. It has such a short half life that it must be sourced and used quickly. Only 100g are produced worldwide every year and almost entirely in Russia. This is substance that only authorized people can access.

Russia chooses to poison its dissidents in the way it does so that there is really no doubt that it is retribution by the Russian state. It sends a very clear message: do not cross Putin, because he can get you no matter where you are and no matter how much time has passed.


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