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OfflineThe Ecstatic
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods] * 1
    #27157218 - 01/19/21 10:53 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

From the sentence “9/11 style commission to investigate Putin’s involvement in the Capitol riots.”


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #27157222 - 01/19/21 10:55 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I mean I guess some GRU grunt could have taken some Stop the Steal pamphlets to a kinkos near the Mall, that basically classifies as Putin involvement.

Also curious what your opinion is of the India troll farms propping up the Biden campaign on social media.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Stable Genius] * 1
    #27157293 - 01/19/21 11:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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But he violated parole before he even flew to Germany.



Hey just wondering why you felt the need to post the above when it was very easy to establish that was not the case?



I don't think it's been established that's not the case.  Even one of your own links said this:

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FSIN, the prison service, said in a statement that Navalny, 44, was on a national wanted list because he had last year repeatedly failed to report at least twice a month to them under the terms of a suspended sentence on embezzlement charges.






If it is the case that he only violated parole while he was in Germany, then of course I'll agree with you that this was unfair, and I think the Russian courts would agree.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #27157301 - 01/19/21 11:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Russian courts aren't exactly known for their fairness


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27157338 - 01/19/21 11:57 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

They blame everything on Russia, even when it is clearly the most absurd shit ever. And now that the Neocons have re-taken power through their puppet Biden, the slow march towards eventual war with Russia will now continue.

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: chopstick]
    #27157348 - 01/19/21 12:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Dude, China is the one taking over the world.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27157356 - 01/19/21 12:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The US will never fight a two-front war against both Russia and China at the same time. The target for military conflict will be Russia. They've gone too far with their propaganda and lies to have it any other way.

The only way that could change is if Trump or a GOP nominee retakes the presidency in 2024.

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: chopstick] * 4
    #27157366 - 01/19/21 12:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

The United States would be in deep trouble fighting a war with Russia or China.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: chopstick]
    #27157383 - 01/19/21 12:18 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
From the sentence “9/11 style commission to investigate Putin’s involvement in the Capitol riots.”



I don’t see that sentence anywhere.

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There is “strong support in the Congress” for establishing a “9/11-style commission” to investigate President Trump‘s ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russia’s involvement in the Capitol riot, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi revealed to Hillary Clinton.




The words pelosi spoke are “strong support in the congress” and “9/11-style commission.” The rest are the words of the author of the article.

I see nothing to suggest that the commission will be formed to investigate Putin’s involvement. They will be investigating what happened. The right wants to discredit the investigation by pretending its going to be about putin. They scream “Russia Russia Russia” and then half the electorate tunes out.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27157390 - 01/19/21 12:21 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Those are the only 2 potential adversaries that our armed forces are optimized to fight.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: chopstick]
    #27157396 - 01/19/21 12:25 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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The US will never fight a two-front war against both Russia and China at the same time. The target for military conflict will be Russia. They've gone too far with their propaganda and lies to have it any other way.

The only way that could change is if Trump or a GOP nominee retakes the presidency in 2024.




The Russian hack of US government systems is likely the largest cyber security breach in this country’s history.

China is a threat because they do capitalism better than we do. Russia is a threat because they want to undermine democracy on ideological grounds. Putin wants to be able to point overseas and say “see, look at the chaos of the democratic process.”

Anyone who thinks China is a threat because of communism is an idiot. The only thing communist about China is the vestigial name of the political party running the country. China is a one party, authoritarian capitalist country.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27157409 - 01/19/21 12:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Dude, China is the one taking over the world.




Yeah I don’t even understand the strategic value of sabre rattling about Russia. Maybe it’s the same motivation as it’s always been: to maintain influence over Europe. More likely, we need to keep up the war machine, and a serious conflict with China would hurt too many important people’s bank accounts, so we just sell the boomers on another Cold War instead.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: ballsalsa]
    #27157413 - 01/19/21 12:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Those are the only 2 potential adversaries that our armed forces are optimized to fight.




We will never go to war with either of them

If you think the threat of war with Russia is credible, then you probably grew up in a post Cold War world. If you grew up in the 80s, the shit going down now barely registers.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods]
    #27157422 - 01/19/21 12:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Russia could care less about America and would leave us alone as long as we left them alone. The truth is that they are not a threat to America. They are a threat only to the various members of the Elite who want total global control & domination.

If the US goes to war with Russia, it will not be because America needed to protect itself from a threat. Millions will die just so the Elite can finally fulfill their dream of getting revenge on Russia and dominating the entire planet's resources.

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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27157428 - 01/19/21 12:39 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Dude, China is the one taking over the world.




Yeah I don’t even understand the strategic value of sabre rattling about Russia. Maybe it’s the same motivation as it’s always been: to maintain influence over Europe. More likely, we need to keep up the war machine, and a serious conflict with China would hurt too many important people’s bank accounts, so we just sell the boomers on another Cold War instead.




The strategic value is to win elections. Nobody is interested in war with Russia, but the republicans did a good job convincing their base that democrats will somehow get us into a war with Russia.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods]
    #27157430 - 01/19/21 12:40 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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From the sentence “9/11 style commission to investigate Putin’s involvement in the Capitol riots.”



I don’t see that sentence anywhere.

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There is “strong support in the Congress” for establishing a “9/11-style commission” to investigate President Trump‘s ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russia’s involvement in the Capitol riot, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi revealed to Hillary Clinton.




The words pelosi spoke are “strong support in the congress” and “9/11-style commission.” The rest are the words of the author of the article.

I see nothing to suggest that the commission will be formed to investigate Putin’s involvement. They will be investigating what happened. The right wants to discredit the investigation by pretending its going to be about putin. They scream “Russia Russia Russia” and then half the electorate tunes out.





Did you even listen to the audio or did you just skim the page for the first excuse you could find to dismiss it lol


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods]
    #27157434 - 01/19/21 12:41 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Brian Jones said:
Dude, China is the one taking over the world.




Yeah I don’t even understand the strategic value of sabre rattling about Russia. Maybe it’s the same motivation as it’s always been: to maintain influence over Europe. More likely, we need to keep up the war machine, and a serious conflict with China would hurt too many important people’s bank accounts, so we just sell the boomers on another Cold War instead.




The strategic value is to win elections. Nobody is interested in war with Russia, but the republicans did a good job convincing their base that democrats will somehow get us into a war with Russia.




I don’t really buy that, considering the Democrats bitched about Russia for 4 years and still won midterms and then took the senate and White House two months ago.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: chopstick]
    #27157445 - 01/19/21 12:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Russia could care less about America and would leave us alone as long as we left them alone. The truth is that they are not a threat to America. They are a threat only to the various members of the Elite who want total global control & domination.

If the US goes to war with Russia, it will not be because America needed to protect itself from a threat. Millions will die just so the Elite can finally fulfill their dream of getting revenge on Russia and dominating the entire planet's resources.




Revenge on Russia for what?


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27157454 - 01/19/21 12:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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koods said:
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The Ecstatic said:
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Brian Jones said:
Dude, China is the one taking over the world.




Yeah I don’t even understand the strategic value of sabre rattling about Russia. Maybe it’s the same motivation as it’s always been: to maintain influence over Europe. More likely, we need to keep up the war machine, and a serious conflict with China would hurt too many important people’s bank accounts, so we just sell the boomers on another Cold War instead.




The strategic value is to win elections. Nobody is interested in war with Russia, but the republicans did a good job convincing their base that democrats will somehow get us into a war with Russia.




I don’t really buy that, considering the Democrats bitched about Russia for 4 years and still won midterms and then took the senate and White House two months ago.




Hillary will get us into a war with Russia if elected” was a major GOP talking point in 2016.


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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods] * 1
    #27157465 - 01/19/21 01:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

It was true though. And they want revenge because Putin kicked them out of the country in the early 2000's. Prior to Putin Russia was totally under the control of various oligarchs who were siphoning the country's wealth abroad and in the process impoverishing the Russian people, who had absolutely terrible living conditions and even worse economic prospects.

Yeltsin was widely regarded as Bill Clinton's personal puppet. But after Putin took power, that all changed.

And the funniest part about it is, these same oligarchs that Putin kicked out of the country actually supported him during his rise to the presidency because they thought he was just going to be another weak fool who they could control.

Instead, Putin kicked them out. Then Russia totally transformed under his leadership, going from an economy which was impoverishing its people for the benefit of a few to an economy which provided for much better living conditions for its people. And its military, which was depleted, destroyed and demoralized after losing the first Chechen war, was reformed by Putin and turned into a powerhouse that won the second Chechen war and now rivals America's military.

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