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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: DonJuan7]
#26996553 - 10/21/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't think anyone is saying the U.S. hasn't engaged in underhanded activities? This thread is about an alleged attack on British soil by Russia. For instance those 2 unlucky Russian agents that turned up in Salisbury to play tourist the day before the poisoning. Not saying they were involved of course, but how unlucky is that hey? They should've gone to Sevastopol for the sunshine.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Stable Genius]
#26996744 - 10/21/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Russian agents"? Did you find something that hasn't been shared yet? 
We did find out that Bellingcat was lying about one of them being a hero of Russia.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26996794 - 10/21/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I thought they were?
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Stable Genius]
#26996817 - 10/21/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's what Bellincat says. But they also said Chepiga was a Hero of Russia.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Stable Genius] 1
#27101329 - 12/21/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Russian agent who poisoned navalny was tricked into confessing to the entire crime with details
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods]
#27101515 - 12/21/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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just posted in the Assange thread about those 2 'tourists' at the 2.25 mark and their story... the coincidence of those 2 arriving in Salisbury never made sense. Will watch all this later
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods]
#27101792 - 12/21/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: The Russian agent who poisoned navalny was tricked into confessing to the entire crime with details
I was actually ready to congratulate you for finally finding evidence, but maybe you posted the wrong video?
The first 43 minutes of the video was evidence that Navalny was closely being followed for over 3 years. I already knew that, and Putin had previously admitted he was being followed. Assassins following him for over 3 years and not killing him?
At 43:20, it finally got a little interesting. Navalny doesn't have any actual phone recordings or text messages, but he sure does do a lot of make believing about what the people following him were talking about on the phone.
At 44:45, he says: "What kind of helpless idiots work in the FSB? They have been following me for three and a half years, they tried to poison me at least three times, but I'm still alive!" Well, exactly.
The one somewhat decent point he makes as to why he wasn't killed is because he says it's better to under-poison someone than over-poison them, so you don't make it obvious you were poisoned. I guess that's reasonable, but with Novichok?
He says the reason Putin wants him dead is because Navalny wants Russia's resources to be spread more equitably between the country's billionaires and the working class. That's what you had before, Navalny. Welcome to capitalism.
But seriously, did you post the wrong video? Where's the one with the guy who confessed "the entire crime with details"?
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#27101800 - 12/21/20 10:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah wrong video, although the right one is all over the place. You really didn’t need my help finding it did you?
The assassin says they didn’t expect navalny to get medical attention in time to save him. The poison was put on his underwear:
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods]
#27101841 - 12/21/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods] 1
#27101902 - 12/22/20 01:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: Yeah wrong video, although the right one is all over the place. You really didn’t need my help finding it did you?
I didn't look for it yet. I just found out about it from you, and it was just posted today. Both videos were done classic James O'Keefe style. Shivas should object. 
But I've always argued to look at the content rather than the interviewer. The interview looks damning, and right now I'd say we finally have decent evidence.
A few observations:
The 'assassins' hunted Navalny for ~3.5 years and he's still not dead. To repeat Navalny's own statement: "What kind of helpless idiots work in the FSB? They have been following me for three and a half years, they tried to poison me at least three times, but I'm still alive!" Evidence of novichok poison has still not been shared (why not?) Russia let Navalny go to Germany per his request (why'd they let him go if they wanted him dead?) Navalny is now doing fine after being given a 'deadly' dose of nerve agent
All of the above make this a bit less convincing. But this is finally decent evidence.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#27101925 - 12/22/20 02:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is a better one, following from the first one koods posted. What a sting suck eggs Putin
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Stable Genius]
#27102144 - 12/22/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You have to be a complete idiot to think Russia was actually behind any of these fake, half-assed "poisonings", which are just nothing more than intelligence operations designed to blame Russia and further the anti-Russian propaganda narrative.
The Elite who run the West have hated Russia ever since Putin kicked them out of Russia in the '90's and early 2000's, and they've wanted revenge ever since, painting Putin as a dictator who murders journalists and political opponents, having them poisoned in some ridiculous fantasy Bond-like movie plot.
Problem is, these false flags are scripted in such a way as to reflect a Hollywood movie, they don't reflect reality.
If Putin wanted these people dead, they would be dead. Period. These people are lying, and they know it, but they don't care because they are nothing more than cheap prostitutes who don't even have the basic moral fiber to refuse lying to the world in exchange for a paycheck.
You can find anyone who will lie in exchange for money in this world, unfortunately.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: chopstick]
#27110841 - 12/27/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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... must be quite a few complete idiots out there then.
Putin admitted Navalny was being tailed by Russian agents.
Bellingcat pointed out some of the people trailing him were chemical weapons experts.
Nothing to see here, right?
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Stable Genius]
#27110948 - 12/27/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stable Genius said: ... must be quite a few complete idiots out there then.
Putin admitted Navalny was being tailed by Russian agents.
Bellingcat pointed out some of the people trailing him were chemical weapons experts.
Nothing to see here, right?
Bellingcat is a propaganda organization which receives funding from numerous Western governments, but please, do try again.
Again, you have to be a complete idiot to believe that Russia poisoned Navalny, despite having literally nothing to gain from it.
Unfortunately there are a lot of idiots on this website.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: chopstick] 1
#27110960 - 12/27/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't need to try anything, I'm happy discussing what's been in the news.
Do you have anything else to contribute other than derrrrrr BELLINGCAT!
Speaking of idiots though it has been highly entertaining reading the Trump thread. There's some batshit crazy posts in there
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Stable Genius]
#27111225 - 12/27/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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From Navalny's website https://navalny.com/p/6449/
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The statement is short: the team of doctors sic(from the Charite Hospital) who treated Navalny published data about their work in the Lancet magazine.
The article was signed by 14 professors of medicine, and it is called "Novichok nerve agent poisoning".
Summary.
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“The identification of a single organophosphorus compound is a complex and laborious process. In fact, the establishment of the involvement of the Novichok agent and the products of its biotransformation in this case was achieved only a few days after the diagnosis of cholinesterase inhibitor poisoning was established and did not affect the therapeutic decisions, the doctors write. “(…) Tests for butyrylcholinesterase activity, which are mainly used as a liver function test, are widely available in daily clinical practice and are usually the only laboratory parameter to confirm the clinical diagnosis of organophosphate poisoning.” ... According to doctors, the decisive factors for a favorable outcome were intubation and mechanical ventilation of the lungs within 2-3 hours after the onset of symptoms and the absence of previous severe hypoxia
$35 for the Lancet article
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0140673620326441
Navalny is suspected of being poisoned = no investigation. His lawyer knocks on the door of one of the suspects = gets arrested.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-opens-criminal-investigation-navalny-lawyer-meet-with-fsb-agent/31018584.html
Also, with all the admitted surveillance from the FSB agents, how come none of them saw anything, at all... maybe they were too busy checking out the local architecture, church spires etc? Apparently those FSB agents are serious vultures for culture.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: chopstick]
#27112183 - 12/28/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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chopstick said:
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Stable Genius said: ... must be quite a few complete idiots out there then.
Putin admitted Navalny was being tailed by Russian agents.
Bellingcat pointed out some of the people trailing him were chemical weapons experts.
Nothing to see here, right?
Bellingcat is a propaganda organization which receives funding from numerous Western governments, but please, do try again.
Again, you have to be a complete idiot to believe that Russia poisoned Navalny, despite having literally nothing to gain from it.
Unfortunately there are a lot of idiots on this website.
Navalny has now been threatened with jail time if he doesn’t return to Russia.
Totally normal behavior
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: koods]
#27112231 - 12/28/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I’ve been impressed with navalny’s sense of humor
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Stable Genius]
#27112276 - 12/28/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stable Genius said: From Navalny's website https://navalny.com/p/6449/
Yes, I'm sure Navalny is an unbiased source... 
We live in a day and age where they can make up anything. I'm not even going to bother reviewing your laughable "evidence" because I already know it's fake. Navalny is a moron and a cheap prostitute who is hated in Russia by virtually everyone, and his only remaining "use" left to the people controlling him was to fake a "poisoning" and blame it on Putin for cheap propaganda purposes.
Tell me, why would Putin bother poisoning someone who is already hated in Russia, believed by no-one, has virtually 0 support among the Russian population and is barely even a threat?
Imagine your only use in life is to fake being "poisoned" so you can blame it on Russia. How sad.
People like Navalny are complete scum. Paid to lie. He knows he's lying, but he doesn't care, because he has sold himself out completely.
And everytime someone like you buys into these lies, and continues to propagate them, all it does is make things worse. This kind of propaganda needs to be immediately called out. I'm tired of seeing it spread like this, when it's so laughably easy to debunk.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: chopstick]
#27112299 - 12/28/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So why is Putin demanding he return to Russia if he’s a nobody?
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