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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil]
#25070747 - 03/17/18 11:29 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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We don't know that yet.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#25071666 - 03/17/18 06:40 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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The US has been trying to starve Russia by keeping their energy exports out of Western Europe for a while now. Pipeline proposals, and even existing infrastructure, has a LOT to do with whats going on in Ukraine and Syria.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: The Ecstatic]
#25072296 - 03/18/18 02:13 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Whether it was uk or or russia. What could we expect to happen?
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#25072632 - 03/18/18 09:05 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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The last thing we want is for Russia to have a gas line. Imagine how much Novichok they could ship down that thing.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Enlil]
#25072713 - 03/18/18 10:00 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: The Ecstatic]
#25073826 - 03/18/18 05:45 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: The US has been trying to starve Russia by keeping their energy exports out of Western Europe for a while now. Pipeline proposals, and even existing infrastructure, has a LOT to do with whats going on in Ukraine and Syria.
You mean it's more complicated than indiscriminately "bombing brown people"?
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: qman]
#25074038 - 03/18/18 07:20 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did ANYONE say the purpose of going there was to "indiscriminately bomb brown people"?
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#25074109 - 03/18/18 07:57 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Did ANYONE say the purpose of going there was to "indiscriminately bomb brown people"?
Obviously, you don't read "the rise of the far-right" thread. It's littered throughout it.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: qman]
#25074178 - 03/18/18 08:27 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually, the motivations are bombing brown people are made pretty transparent.
The racism is only an excuse to continue doing it, appealing to the useful idiots (the far right).
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: The Ecstatic]
#25074193 - 03/18/18 08:36 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Actually, the motivations are bombing brown people are made pretty transparent.
The racism is only an excuse to continue doing it, appealing to the useful idiots (the far right).
So how did Bill Clinton and Obama do such a good job appealing to their useful idiots? 
Did they appeal to the "racism" on the left to excuse their military actions?
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: qman] 1
#25074202 - 03/18/18 08:39 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't know what you mean by "the left" in this context, but yeah, Bill Clinton is notorious for using race as a means to solidify his political power (he anniunced his candidacy for POTUS at Stone Mountain, used racial rhetoric to pass "welfare reform" as well as the EXTREMELY racist crime bill). Obama is seen as some sort of "pinnacle" of social progress in this country, despite the decline of black America post-recession.
Leaders in both major parties continuously cater to the war machine, and both parties use racism to justify that war machine. That includes Obama and Clinton.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: The Ecstatic]
#25074501 - 03/18/18 11:32 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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So obama was a racist?
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: MagicMush123]
#25074797 - 03/19/18 05:44 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Everyone is a racist, but the degree to which varies greatly.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: MagicMush123] 1
#25074817 - 03/19/18 06:11 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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MagicMush123 said: So obama was a racist?
It doesnt matter if Obama was or wasn't, the point is his ethnicity was used as a smokescreen for inclusivity as his administration deported more immigrants than any in history, and expanded wars abroad against Muslims.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#25096103 - 03/27/18 11:41 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Enlil said: Why these two people though? What do these people have to do with making Russia look bad? Or stopping a gas line?
Your whole theory is some convoluted conspiracy to frame someone for PR purposes. You can't possibly not see how attenuated that is from the evidence we have. You're in Alex Jones territory at this point.
Are you serious? Have you not read any news since this incident? People are going batshit crazy over this. Russia has most certainly lost international standing, sanctions are being discussed, and I'll bet my sig we see pressure on Germany to cancel Nord Stream 2.
Good thing you didn't take my bet. Germany just announced the US is pressuring them to stop the Nord Stream 2 gas line.
(Here's Google's attempt to translate this article)
Now it gets interesting.
In spite of pressure from the US not to move forward with the Nord Stream 2 gas line, it was just announced that "Germany fully approves Russia-built Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline"
The US threatened to sanction European firms involved in Russian gas project:
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At the State Department, we have spent a lot of time speaking with our partners and allies overseas to explain to them the ramifications of CAATSA and how an individual or a company or a country can run afoul against CAATSA and fall into sanctions," Nauert said. "We don't tend to comment on sanctions actions but we've been clear that firm steps against the Russian energy export pipeline sector could – if they engage in that kind of business – they could expose themselves to sanctions under CAATSA.
I wonder how that will go over with EU companies?
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 2
#25096317 - 03/28/18 03:38 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good post Falcon. BTW never mind how US sanctions will go with European companies, consider how they will go down with the European people.
We Europeans are aware of who really runs US foreign policy, and it looks like they are angling for World War 111, which they plan to fight to the last European.
The Russians are fellow Europeans, and they have no military bases in our countries. Their crime is that they have defeated the western backed terrorists in Syria.
As to who poisoned the Russian double agent and his daughter, well we know that we were lied to over Iraq's non existent 'weapons of mass destruction', and we know that we are being lied to again.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Will Scarlet] 1
#25096514 - 03/28/18 07:27 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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What about world war 3-110? Are we skipping those?
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Will Scarlet]
#25096544 - 03/28/18 07:57 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Will Scarlet said: Good post Falcon. BTW never mind how US sanctions will go with European companies, consider how they will go down with the European people.
We Europeans are aware of who really runs US foreign policy, and it looks like they are angling for World War 111, which they plan to fight to the last European.
The Russians are fellow Europeans, and they have no military bases in our countries. Their crime is that they have defeated the western backed terrorists in Syria.
As to who poisoned the Russian double agent and his daughter, well we know that we were lied to over Iraq's non existent 'weapons of mass destruction', and we know that we are being lied to again.
You are correct.
All of the people of Europe will be the first to be sacrificed if the world goes to war with Russia.
The regimes that rule over the people of the US and most of Europe have shown their faces for what they truly are. A bunch of spineless, pathetic, warmongering fools who will sacrifice the entire human race just so they can stay in power a little longer.
The options we have aren't very good. Either we destroy the ruling hegemon, the elites running this charade, and crush them, or we let them start a nuclear war and sacrifice all of us.
It's up to us. The truth is that the choice is ours and we don't have to let it happen. It will only happen if we let it happen. Keep that in mind at all times. There is hope that humanity will still do the right thing.
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Will Scarlet]
#25096813 - 03/28/18 10:28 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Will Scarlet said: Good post Falcon. BTW never mind how US sanctions will go with European companies, consider how they will go down with the European people.
We Europeans are aware of who really runs US foreign policy, and it looks like they are angling for World War 111, which they plan to fight to the last European.
The Russians are fellow Europeans, and they have no military bases in our countries. Their crime is that they have defeated the western backed terrorists in Syria.
As to who poisoned the Russian double agent and his daughter, well we know that we were lied to over Iraq's non existent 'weapons of mass destruction', and we know that we are being lied to again.
Agreed. 
Not to mention all the other lies, such as Russia "invading" Crimea. I visited Crimea last summer and confirmed we were lied to about that too.
Can I ask what country you're from?
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Re: Teresa May takes Russia to task over chemical weapon attack on British soil [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#25096841 - 03/28/18 10:36 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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He's from the UK and is absolutely correct.
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