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Would you rather be lucky or talented? * 1
    #25055947 - 03/11/18 10:30 AM (6 years, 19 days ago)



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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25055955 - 03/11/18 10:36 AM (6 years, 19 days ago)

In RPGs that let me set and build my character's stats
Luck tends to be my primary focus
so prolly go with that IRL as well
if given a choice on the matter

wouldn't it be lucky if we had any say in it?

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: Tantrika]
    #25055977 - 03/11/18 10:44 AM (6 years, 19 days ago)

talent for sure, luck in it's essence has no regularity for it. i would rather have a course i can affect consistently then the ups and downs luck brings.


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #25055980 - 03/11/18 10:47 AM (6 years, 19 days ago)

If it's good luck were talking, then I choose the luck.  Skill can be developed luck cannot haha.


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: impatientguy]
    #25055998 - 03/11/18 10:51 AM (6 years, 19 days ago)

I seem to have both, for which I am eternally grateful, so I'll just roll with that for as long as I can.


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #25056009 - 03/11/18 10:55 AM (6 years, 19 days ago)

Luck favors the prepared


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #25056037 - 03/11/18 11:19 AM (6 years, 19 days ago)

The prepared don't need luck.


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 1
    #25056042 - 03/11/18 11:21 AM (6 years, 19 days ago)

The separation is in the preperation


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: Just_A_Noob]
    #25056058 - 03/11/18 11:32 AM (6 years, 19 days ago)

:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25056059 - 03/11/18 11:33 AM (6 years, 19 days ago)

If by luck you mean extrinsic variables that produce positive outcomes then I would choose that.  I know a lot of talented, intelligent people that cannot catch a break.


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: Just_A_Noob] * 1
    #25056155 - 03/11/18 12:29 PM (6 years, 19 days ago)

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The separation is in the preperation




That would make a sweet t shirt.

I choose talent. With talent and hardwork, u can do some awesome stuff.


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #25056185 - 03/11/18 12:40 PM (6 years, 19 days ago)

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The separation is in the preperation




That would make a sweet t shirt.

I choose talent. With talent and hardwork, u can do some awesome stuff.




With just a little luck, I'll be the one to get the credit and reward

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: Tantrika]
    #25056335 - 03/11/18 01:43 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

Did anyone r3ad the article or the abstract?


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25056339 - 03/11/18 01:45 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

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A study on meritocracy

Article about the study

Thoughts?





It really depends on how lucky and how talented


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #25056341 - 03/11/18 01:46 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

Lucky definitely. Luck can get you many places that talent can't. You can have all the talent in the world and never manage to break through without luck. On the other hand, even if you're mediocre, with enough luck you can accomplish whatever the fuck you want to do. Definitely luck.

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25056389 - 03/11/18 02:02 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

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Did anyone r3ad the article or the abstract?




Skimmed the article, tried reading the abstract
but my focus has been getting more and more fucked again lately
so things kinda swum

the part that stood out to me was the emphasis in the article on how there was "Never." any cross-over

comprehend how that does not make luck the sole factor in determining things
but took a few moments to reflect on where my good fortune does exist

it is hard to pin down what 'makes' luck or what 'makes' talent exist
but any skill can be developed with practice, luck is just whether the dice like you

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: nooneman]
    #25056397 - 03/11/18 02:03 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

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Lucky definitely. Luck can get you many places that talent can't. You can have all the talent in the world and never manage to break through without luck. On the other hand, even if you're mediocre, with enough luck you can accomplish whatever the fuck you want to do. Definitely luck.





Yeah but if you are not talented then the luck will not last. For instance if you get lucky and land a good job, then no talent will get fired right away.

Thats why the question as a whole cant really be answered.


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25056548 - 03/11/18 03:19 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

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Did anyone r3ad the article or the abstract?




Can u spoon-feed me?

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25056550 - 03/11/18 03:21 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

luck because lets be honest talented people have to work harder for success

Truth is i have been super lucky

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: nooneman]
    #25056579 - 03/11/18 03:38 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

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Lucky definitely. Luck can get you many places that talent can't. You can have all the talent in the world and never manage to break through without luck. On the other hand, even if you're mediocre, with enough luck you can accomplish whatever the fuck you want to do. Definitely luck.




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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #25056710 - 03/11/18 05:00 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

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Did anyone r3ad the article or the abstract?




Can u spoon-feed me?




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Such a discrepancy between a Normal distribution of inputs, with a typical scale, and the scale invariant distribution of outputs, suggests that some hidden ingredient is at work behind the scenes. In this paper, with the help of a very simple agent-based model, we suggest that such an ingredient is just randomness. In particular, we show that, if it is true that some degree of talent is necessary to be successful in life, almost never the most talented people reach the highest peaks of success, being overtaken by mediocre but sensibly luckier individuals.




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They then looked at people over a 40-year period, discerned what sort of things had happened to them, and compared that with how wealthy they had become.

They discovered that the conventional distribution of wealth -- 20 percent of humanity enjoys 80 percent of the wealth -- held true.

But then they offered painful words.

They still hurt, even though we know they're true: "The maximum success never coincides with the maximum talent, and vice-versa."

Never.

It's galling, isn't it, to look at some of the relatively talentless quarterwits who bathe in untold piles of lucre?

"So what is it that makes the difference?" I hear you pant, with an agonious grimace.

Are you ready for this?

"Our simulation clearly shows that such a factor is just pure luck," say the researchers.

The researchers actually looked at different events that had happened in people's lives and ranked them according to how lucky or unlucky these events were.

"It is evident that the most successful individuals are also the luckiest ones. And the less successful individuals are also the unluckiest ones," they said




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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #25056731 - 03/11/18 05:09 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

Ah i see.

Being lucky is better i guess.

Im guessing by "lucky" means being born into the right family that isnt poor and is stable. That would be luck. Also being in the right city or state for a given oppurtunity.


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25056746 - 03/11/18 05:14 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

Being at the right time and right place is everything. Ill take luck everytime.

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25056756 - 03/11/18 05:18 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

Most studies are for fools.  Always look at the bottom as most of the time it is some corp that bought it/sponsored it.  Talent is great and luck is a myth.  But you have to develop you talents, whatever they are.  They just don't magically increase.

I like the word momentum instead of luck.  Because you can have a great streak of it.  But unlike luck and the four leaf clover myth it goes both ways.  And I have been on both of them as we have all, it is life.

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: Barnaby]
    #25056920 - 03/11/18 06:48 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

Luck isn't a myth... Its just not an exact science. It may be hard to define but its definitely a factor in life.

Being very lucky is essentially equivalent to being a statistical outlier... Same could be said for being very unlucky. Then there are the majority of us which are in the middle

Perspective can influence this somewhat, gratitude can make a bad run of luck seem like a fair hand


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #25056955 - 03/11/18 07:09 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

Lucky all the way are you crazy

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25056971 - 03/11/18 07:16 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

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Ah i see.

Being lucky is better i guess.

Im guessing by "lucky" means being born into the right family that isnt poor and is stable. That would be luck. Also being in the right city or state for a given oppurtunity.




those would both be relevant examples.

An idiot could become a real estate billionaire if he had a daddy that could loan him millions of dollars and control of a successful real estate development company in 1970's New York City...


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #25056974 - 03/11/18 07:18 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

you mean president

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25057447 - 03/11/18 11:37 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

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Did anyone r3ad the article or the abstract?




I read it after I posted.  LOL!


Honestly, I have studied this topic before in college.


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: Asclepius]
    #25057457 - 03/11/18 11:48 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

I'm unsure now because growth is meaningful

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: cannabinated]
    #25057459 - 03/11/18 11:49 PM (6 years, 18 days ago)

And a lot of lucky people have problems

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: cannabinated]
    #25057599 - 03/12/18 02:32 AM (6 years, 18 days ago)

Luckily talented


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: cannabinated]
    #25057736 - 03/12/18 06:08 AM (6 years, 18 days ago)

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And a lot of lucky people have problems



LOL. EVERYBODY has problems. Never a living human didn't.

Thankfully, if approached in the right way, dealing with them it what causes said growth.


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #25057937 - 03/12/18 09:01 AM (6 years, 18 days ago)

Lucky if it resulted me in winning like a 500m lottery jackpot or something.

Otherwise talented.

talented and lucky would be the best because id be famous and rich though.

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #25057953 - 03/12/18 09:19 AM (6 years, 18 days ago)

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talented and lucky would be the best because id be famous and rich though.



You can reach both fame and fortune with enough of either.

I mean, look at Ken Bone :wink: Talentless fuck who looked silly at the right place at the right time during a tense election, briefly exploded and had interviews on major news outlets, sold shirts and shit. He certainly didn't turn it into a career but if you're looking for a better example of luck taking you places look at our president!


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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #25058061 - 03/12/18 10:29 AM (6 years, 18 days ago)

lucky:cool:

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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #25058166 - 03/12/18 11:40 AM (6 years, 18 days ago)

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talented and lucky would be the best because id be famous and rich though.



You can reach both fame and fortune with enough of either.

I mean, look at Ken Bone :wink: Talentless fuck who looked silly at the right place at the right time during a tense election, briefly exploded and had interviews on major news outlets, sold shirts and shit. He certainly didn't turn it into a career but if you're looking for a better example of luck taking you places look at our president!



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Re: Would you rather be lucky or talented? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #25059050 - 03/12/18 06:49 PM (6 years, 17 days ago)

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And a lot of lucky people have problems



LOL. EVERYBODY has problems. Never a living human didn't.

Thankfully, if approached in the right way, dealing with them it what causes said growth.




A lot of well off people do not address their demons because they don't need to. That's kinda what I was getting at.

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