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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: The Ecstatic] 2
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You would be correct. Free all Palestinian political prisoners and punch nazis.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Richard Spencer is not a Nazi.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: shivas.wisdom] 1
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shivas.wisdom said: You would be correct. Free all Palestinian political prisoners and punch nazis.
Using fascist tactics to fight fascism. Such logic.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said: Richard Spencer is not a Nazi.
Who cares? Just scream Nazi at someone and let the mob do its work.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: koods]
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koods said: Jesus. Nobody is demanding white people feel shame. Stop acting like such a victim. That's all I hear from your side. You are wallowing in manufactured victimhood.
What you should be ashamed of is the fact that you are a rabid anti-Semite and racist.
Ya I'm sketched out those that always deny victims and rationalize their assualt. If the world didn't wake up you'd have a lobotomy for being gay.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: viktor] 1
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lowbrow said: Richard Spencer is not a Nazi.
Who cares? Just scream Nazi at someone and let the mob do its work.
Easier to whinge about muslims ruining western civilization.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: qman] 4
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I am 49 years old and reading this thread makes me sick to my guts to see how far young people have gotten pushed from truth. Liberty and Freedom are in the mud and America is hated. The youth have been overrun, brainwashed and are now cannon fodder, waiting for a fight they don't understand but are convinced they must win....frightening for us all.
I just need to throw a few cards in the game.......Coming for a little different angle
There are no large mobs of Nazi who want whitey to win everything and who want dark skinned people in chains. That gaslighting has been pushed hard for the past 8 years.
Racism is real enough we have had laws in place for decades to protect the rights of the Individual. There are still some case by case issues but there are no groups of oppressed people in the United States.
We have freedom of speech in a free country where we can say what ever we like. Hate speech is a made up lie told to you by people who want to control what people can say and think. There is no hate speech. There are what people think and how people react. What you think is not a crime. How you react can be. That is the difference. If you think a white man who is proud to be white and he therefore must be a racist. You can now hate the perceived racist, that is legal. But if you put on a black mask jump around in the streets and attack "racist people " and tell the "racist people" to shut up or die etc.....you know pull a Antifa tizzy fit ...attempt to shut them down with violence, break shit in the streets etc... then these idiots are now law breakers becoming the very fascist assholes they are fighting.
My point is.....you do not get to march around in black garb screaming over people and committing acts of violence or destruct private property because someone likes to be white, likes conservative points of view or does not like your political views or what ever. When you become aggressive for your socialist political agenda, in a Democratic Republic where people can say what ever they like, you are most likely going to end up in the Wrong.
I agree.....there is a HUGE difference between what anti-fascism is and what antifa is ( yes the original post was a different comparison but the thread wandered a bit)
and besides lets be perfectly clear here, without picking a fight........
There are also no Fascists in the White house and thank God too because we just had a Fascist Administration for the past 8 years and we are still rooting them out. I have know a few honest to goodness white supremacist racist to the core dangerous people...like 2 in 40 years. I know alot of very real dangerous bikers and grew up in Detroit. In my experience Real racist people are a very rare breed. The is no overwhelming white supremist problem in this country.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: Fucknuckled] 5
#25055126 - 03/10/18 07:23 PM (6 years, 20 days ago) |
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^ clear proof that wisdom doesnt automatically correlate with age.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: ^ clear proof that wisdom doesnt automatically correlate with age.
Why thank you And it is astonishing that you would know the first time I got my very own Pin on the Chest WISDOM medal I was only 14 years old...or maybe I was only 12.....cant remember I had so many medals
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: Fucknuckled] 2
#25055661 - 03/11/18 06:43 AM (6 years, 20 days ago) |
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It's pretty sickening what is happening in America right now. It's almost unbelievable how many enablers of fascism there are in this country. I think the sad reality is that the echos of the civil war still ring throughout the country, and racist white America is responding extremely rebelliously and violently to the advances we've made as a country in electing the first black president in our history.
Donald Trump's presidency is not a rebuttal, but a vicious slap in the face response to the advancement of black civil rights, and he is emboldening the worst kind of people in America. The kind of people that blew up the Murrah building in Oklahoma City. Extreme right wing fringe political thoughts and positions are now becoming mainstream conservative thoughts and positions, and it's no surpise that hate crimes against minorities like people of color, immigrants, and the LGBT are increasing year by year. If Trump happens to get 8 years somehow, perhaps at the end of his presidency we'll be on the verge of another civil war.
An integral and necessary component of any sort of political uprising is a propaganda war, and this is fundamentally a war on history, information, language, and definitions. We see this when Antifa is referred to as fascists by the right, because they sometimes match the violence of fascists with violence. The propaganda would try to assert that violence = fascism, so since Antifa is sometimes violent, they are fascists.
This is not what fascism is. Fascism is an ideology adopted and perpetuated in a homogenous society, which seeks to keep a pure society by violently purging undesirables. To the Nazis in Germany, this was the Jews, and LGBT. To purify their society, they murdered over six million of the undesirables, and this act has been one of the greatest atrocities in human history, and it's really the kind of thing that should stand as a warning for future generations. A marker in history that can be reflected upon and something that bestows lessons for future generations to better be able to forge a better human path in history by not going down the same path.
Unfortunately we are at a time now where history seems to be repeating itself, and fascism is on the rise not just in America, but also in Europe as well.
In order to avoid another genocide and world war, fascism is going to have to be defeated again. Antifa was integral in this fight in the early part of the 20th century, and Antifa is standing to fight the rise of fascism again in the early part of the 21st century.
Ultimately, I think that fascism as an ideology and its adherants will be defeated again, and there will be further liberalization and democratization of the world. Why?
Because fascists literally kill people that don't look, think, and act exactly like them, and most people recognize how fucked up this is.
The rest of you flirting with this bullshit need to read a couple history books or something, for fuck's sake.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: Buffy]
#25055775 - 03/11/18 08:44 AM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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Antifa are communists, not fascists.
Communists killed 100 million people over the last century.
It's not fascist to oppose communists.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: Buffy] 1
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Buffy said: It's pretty sickening what is happening in America right now. It's almost unbelievable how many enablers of fascism there are in this country. I think the sad reality is that the echos of the civil war still ring throughout the country, and racist white America is responding extremely rebelliously and violently to the advances we've made as a country in electing the first black president in our history.
Donald Trump's presidency is not a rebuttal, but a vicious slap in the face response to the advancement of black civil rights, and he is emboldening the worst kind of people in America. The kind of people that blew up the Murrah building in Oklahoma City. Extreme right wing fringe political thoughts and positions are now becoming mainstream conservative thoughts and positions, and it's no surpise that hate crimes against minorities like people of color, immigrants, and the LGBT are increasing year by year. If Trump happens to get 8 years somehow, perhaps at the end of his presidency we'll be on the verge of another civil war.
An integral and necessary component of any sort of political uprising is a propaganda war, and this is fundamentally a war on history, information, language, and definitions. We see this when Antifa is referred to as fascists by the right, because they sometimes match the violence of fascists with violence. The propaganda would try to assert that violence = fascism, so since Antifa is sometimes violent, they are fascists.
This is not what fascism is. Fascism is an ideology adopted and perpetuated in a homogenous society, which seeks to keep a pure society by violently purging undesirables. To the Nazis in Germany, this was the Jews, and LGBT. To purify their society, they murdered over six million of the undesirables, and this act has been one of the greatest atrocities in human history, and it's really the kind of thing that should stand as a warning for future generations. A marker in history that can be reflected upon and something that bestows lessons for future generations to better be able to forge a better human path in history by not going down the same path.
Unfortunately we are at a time now where history seems to be repeating itself, and fascism is on the rise not just in America, but also in Europe as well.
In order to avoid another genocide and world war, fascism is going to have to be defeated again. Antifa was integral in this fight in the early part of the 20th century, and Antifa is standing to fight the rise of fascism again in the early part of the 21st century.
Ultimately, I think that fascism as an ideology and its adherants will be defeated again, and there will be further liberalization and democratization of the world. Why?
Because fascists literally kill people that don't look, think, and act exactly like them, and most people recognize how fucked up this is.
The rest of you flirting with this bullshit need to read a couple history books or something, for fuck's sake.
The Antifa we have today isn't going to stop shit, they're a bunch of spoiled little brats that don't have a clue.
The rise of the far-right isn't going to stop anytime soon, we have people like yourself to thank for that result.
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/antifa-domestic-terrorists-us-security-agencies-homeland-security-fbi-a7927881.html
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Re: This is what a sucker punch looks like [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#25055796 - 03/11/18 08:59 AM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said: You would be correct. Free all Palestinian political prisoners and punch nazis.
Sweet sucker punches.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: Fucknuckled] 1
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Fucknuckled said:
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The Ecstatic said: ^ clear proof that wisdom doesnt automatically correlate with age.
Why thank you And it is astonishing that you would know the first time I got my very own Pin on the Chest WISDOM medal I was only 14 years old...or maybe I was only 12.....cant remember I had so many medals
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: viktor]
#25056094 - 03/11/18 11:58 AM (6 years, 19 days ago) |
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It's not fascist to oppose communists.
No, its just dumb.
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: Buffy]
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Buffy said: It's pretty sickening what is happening in America right now. It's almost unbelievable how many enablers of fascism there are in this country. I think the sad reality is that the echos of the civil war still ring throughout the country, and racist white America is responding extremely rebelliously and violently to the advances we've made as a country in electing the first black president in our history.
Donald Trump's presidency is not a rebuttal, but a vicious slap in the face response to the advancement of black civil rights, and he is emboldening the worst kind of people in America. The kind of people that blew up the Murrah building in Oklahoma City. Extreme right wing fringe political thoughts and positions are now becoming mainstream conservative thoughts and positions, and it's no surpise that hate crimes against minorities like people of color, immigrants, and the LGBT are increasing year by year. If Trump happens to get 8 years somehow, perhaps at the end of his presidency we'll be on the verge of another civil war.
An integral and necessary component of any sort of political uprising is a propaganda war, and this is fundamentally a war on history, information, language, and definitions. We see this when Antifa is referred to as fascists by the right, because they sometimes match the violence of fascists with violence. The propaganda would try to assert that violence = fascism, so since Antifa is sometimes violent, they are fascists.
This is not what fascism is. Fascism is an ideology adopted and perpetuated in a homogenous society, which seeks to keep a pure society by violently purging undesirables. To the Nazis in Germany, this was the Jews, and LGBT. To purify their society, they murdered over six million of the undesirables, and this act has been one of the greatest atrocities in human history, and it's really the kind of thing that should stand as a warning for future generations. A marker in history that can be reflected upon and something that bestows lessons for future generations to better be able to forge a better human path in history by not going down the same path.
Unfortunately we are at a time now where history seems to be repeating itself, and fascism is on the rise not just in America, but also in Europe as well.
In order to avoid another genocide and world war, fascism is going to have to be defeated again. Antifa was integral in this fight in the early part of the 20th century, and Antifa is standing to fight the rise of fascism again in the early part of the 21st century.
Ultimately, I think that fascism as an ideology and its adherants will be defeated again, and there will be further liberalization and democratization of the world. Why?
Because fascists literally kill people that don't look, think, and act exactly like them, and most people recognize how fucked up this is.
The rest of you flirting with this bullshit need to read a couple history books or something, for fuck's sake.
What has trump done to repeal black civil rights? Can you elaborate how fascism is on the rise in America?
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Re: This is what antifascism looks like. [Re: MagicMush123]
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Buffy said: It's pretty sickening what is happening in America right now. It's almost unbelievable how many enablers of fascism there are in this country. I think the sad reality is that the echos of the civil war still ring throughout the country, and racist white America is responding extremely rebelliously and violently to the advances we've made as a country in electing the first black president in our history.
Donald Trump's presidency is not a rebuttal, but a vicious slap in the face response to the advancement of black civil rights, and he is emboldening the worst kind of people in America. The kind of people that blew up the Murrah building in Oklahoma City. Extreme right wing fringe political thoughts and positions are now becoming mainstream conservative thoughts and positions, and it's no surpise that hate crimes against minorities like people of color, immigrants, and the LGBT are increasing year by year. If Trump happens to get 8 years somehow, perhaps at the end of his presidency we'll be on the verge of another civil war.
An integral and necessary component of any sort of political uprising is a propaganda war, and this is fundamentally a war on history, information, language, and definitions. We see this when Antifa is referred to as fascists by the right, because they sometimes match the violence of fascists with violence. The propaganda would try to assert that violence = fascism, so since Antifa is sometimes violent, they are fascists.
This is not what fascism is. Fascism is an ideology adopted and perpetuated in a homogenous society, which seeks to keep a pure society by violently purging undesirables. To the Nazis in Germany, this was the Jews, and LGBT. To purify their society, they murdered over six million of the undesirables, and this act has been one of the greatest atrocities in human history, and it's really the kind of thing that should stand as a warning for future generations. A marker in history that can be reflected upon and something that bestows lessons for future generations to better be able to forge a better human path in history by not going down the same path.
Unfortunately we are at a time now where history seems to be repeating itself, and fascism is on the rise not just in America, but also in Europe as well.
In order to avoid another genocide and world war, fascism is going to have to be defeated again. Antifa was integral in this fight in the early part of the 20th century, and Antifa is standing to fight the rise of fascism again in the early part of the 21st century.
Ultimately, I think that fascism as an ideology and its adherants will be defeated again, and there will be further liberalization and democratization of the world. Why?
Because fascists literally kill people that don't look, think, and act exactly like them, and most people recognize how fucked up this is.
The rest of you flirting with this bullshit need to read a couple history books or something, for fuck's sake.
AND this right here ^^^^^^^^^^ is proof how brainwashed the young are. Trump presidency is a backlash from 8 years of a Black President ? who told you this ? America is 65% White and 75% of the White people Voted for him...TWICE. Trump won the office for alot of reasons but none of them were because he is white and white people hate black people. You are the problem and continue to push this bullshit.
Obama is a progressive Globalist who sold this county out. Obama is a small part of a larger enemy and is a Traitor to the Constitution and the American People. Trump won the office because he is fighting for Liberty and the rights of free People.
There is no HUGE massive rise of White racism. There is however a massive rise to call white people the scourge of the planet and make the white race the new target of racism. What do you think is going to happen ? Free people are going to just down and take it up the ass ? What is going in in Europe is simple. A culture which has lasted for 1500 years is under siege from Tyrants who want the entire globe under a sharia, marxist, communist call it what you like LAWS.
Trump won the office for the same reason so many other world leaders are getting voted into office.
We are ALL DONE with the bullshit and it has NOTHING to do with the color of your skin. Trump is not a result of some underlying hate......Trump is a Hero to free people who believe in free thought and living.
You are sadly a brainwashed sponge being used as a division tool to weaken our Republic and the truley sad part is when the blood starts in the streets some of you are going to hold on to your fantasy and scream.....THE DICTATOR DECLARED MARSHALL LAW AND IS ARRESTING US. Your generation will eventually wake up...I just hope it is sooner than later
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