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OfflineSpikeXena
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Is it possible that the contaminations are because of not enough water?
    #25041153 - 03/05/18 07:38 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

I follow the 2 parts vermiculite, 1 part brf, and 1 part water but after I mix everything together and squeeze the mixture in my hand almost no water comes our.

Here is what my contamination looks like, https://i.imgur.com/kKFsYih.jpg

all 17 jars through two attempts have come out looking like this

these reason I ask is because in the beginning I used a little more water and though it got contaminated I still got some mycelium to the point that little mushrooms were growing in it, and for the 2nd batch I watched how much water I used and put in a bit less and the contamination spread much faster than the jars with more water


what are your thoughts?


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Re: Is it possible that the contaminations are because of not enough water? [Re: SpikeXena]
    #25041167 - 03/05/18 07:43 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Contamination could be from a number of things, not enough water being one of them. Are your sterilization techniques on point?


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Re: Is it possible that the contaminations are because of not enough water? [Re: grow4fun]
    #25041175 - 03/05/18 07:45 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Water content doesnt cause contamination unless its way too much water in an open air environment.

Honestly that jar doesnt look contaminated to me.


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Re: Is it possible that the contaminations are because of not enough water? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25041180 - 03/05/18 07:46 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Oh wait, nevermind i see it now. No water content didnt cause that.

How long did you sterilize for?


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Re: Is it possible that the contaminations are because of not enough water? [Re: grow4fun]
    #25041183 - 03/05/18 07:48 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

Cant really tell what the pic is atm on my phone... I think clean jars that lack proper water content will simply stall. Not sure why that would cause contamination. If anything, you are just seeing faster growth of the mold in jars that arent as moist. If you follow the tek properly and use the proper ratios etc, that shouldn't be an issue.

Time to re-examine your sterile technique.


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Re: Is it possible that the contaminations are because of not enough water? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25041308 - 03/05/18 08:44 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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elasticaltiger said:
Water content doesnt cause contamination unless its way too much water in an open air environment.

Honestly that jar doesnt look contaminated to me.



Are you sure? I thought grains can cause contamination if it's way too dry. Whether it causes contams or not, it's no good either way. :biggrin:


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Re: Is it possible that the contaminations are because of not enough water? [Re: grow4fun]
    #25041518 - 03/05/18 10:14 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

No dude dryness doesnt cause contamination. Contamination causes contamination.

If your colonized grains are so fucking dry that your mycelium cant grow then when you spawn the contamination in the air can have time to colonize the grain before the myc recovers but the bulk sub should provide moisture to hydrate the myc and take care of that, that doesnt mean that dryness magically creates contamination. Sterilized dry grains in a jar are just dry grains in a jar.


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No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

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Re: Is it possible that the contaminations are because of not enough water? [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25048184 - 03/08/18 11:54 AM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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No dude dryness doesnt cause contamination. Contamination causes contamination.

If your colonized grains are so fucking dry that your mycelium cant grow then when you spawn the contamination in the air can have time to colonize the grain before the myc recovers but the bulk sub should provide moisture to hydrate the myc and take care of that, that doesnt mean that dryness magically creates contamination. Sterilized dry grains in a jar are just dry grains in a jar.




So contams can't really grow on dry ass grains because there's no resources it can use? But contams feast on water though right? So, if it's too wet, then it's more likely to be contaminated.
Trying to understand that. Thanks for the info.


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Re: Is it possible that the contaminations are because of not enough water? [Re: grow4fun]
    #25048226 - 03/08/18 12:28 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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grow4fun said:
Quote:

elasticaltiger said:
No dude dryness doesnt cause contamination. Contamination causes contamination.

If your colonized grains are so fucking dry that your mycelium cant grow then when you spawn the contamination in the air can have time to colonize the grain before the myc recovers but the bulk sub should provide moisture to hydrate the myc and take care of that, that doesnt mean that dryness magically creates contamination. Sterilized dry grains in a jar are just dry grains in a jar.




So contams can't really grow on dry ass grains because there's no resources it can use? But contams feast on water though right? So, if it's too wet, then it's more likely to be contaminated.
Trying to understand that. Thanks for the info.



Contams require water to thrive, but not necessarily to exist. Should contams be present, but the enviroment too dry to activate, multiply, or grow then they may just lay unnoticed until given water. Same applies for mycellium.


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Re: Is it possible that the contaminations are because of not enough water? [Re: Quirkmeister92]
    #25048229 - 03/08/18 12:29 PM (2 years, 7 months ago)

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Quirkmeister92 said:
Quote:

grow4fun said:
Quote:

elasticaltiger said:
No dude dryness doesnt cause contamination. Contamination causes contamination.

If your colonized grains are so fucking dry that your mycelium cant grow then when you spawn the contamination in the air can have time to colonize the grain before the myc recovers but the bulk sub should provide moisture to hydrate the myc and take care of that, that doesnt mean that dryness magically creates contamination. Sterilized dry grains in a jar are just dry grains in a jar.




So contams can't really grow on dry ass grains because there's no resources it can use? But contams feast on water though right? So, if it's too wet, then it's more likely to be contaminated.
Trying to understand that. Thanks for the info.



Contams require water to thrive, but not necessarily to exist. Should contams be present, but the enviroment too dry to activate, multiply, or grow then they may just lay unnoticed until given water. Same applies for mycellium.




Couldn't have said it any better. Yeah makes sense.


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