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MushiNoob



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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Doc9151]
#25048252 - 03/08/18 10:42 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Awesome!
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: TheBlueprint]
#25051039 - 03/09/18 04:35 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just out of curiosity, wouldn't it be kinda risky to mail the spore prints + piece of those mushrooms? Fairly sure it's illegal in most places and not sure if the cops could show up at your door one day if you had send something like that. Heard some stories over here for example where people ordered shrooms online and the cops ended up "delivering" them while under-cover to bust the dude. Lol.
Wouldn't it be better to let it be researched in the country of origin / at some local mycologists (if there are any)/university? It just seems risky to mail em just like that.
Edited by MushiNoob (03/09/18 04:38 AM)
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#25051072 - 03/09/18 04:53 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doc9151 said: Im familiar with p. Subcubensis, however most of the others are new to me, tks Alan, aces as always.
P. subcubensis isn't a real species. The others are.
However OP probably has P. cubensis.
I'm completely inexperienced about this, and you're the mycologist ofcourse, but wikipedia says this about the subcubensis:
"Psilocybe subcubensis is an entheogenic species of mushroom in the Hymenogastraceae family. The mushroom contains the medicinal compounds psilocybin and psilocin. Psilocybe subcubensis was first described by Mexican mycologist Gaston Guzman. It is the pantropical sister species of Psilocybe cubensis. It is macroscopically identical to Psilocybe cubensis but has smaller spores."
So practically the same, but with smaller spores? But we shouldn't regard it as an actual real species because it's so similar to cubensis?
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MushiNoob



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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Anglerfish]
#25051078 - 03/09/18 04:57 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tangich said: Sending spore prints is quite safe, they can be easily concealed between two pieces of thin cardboard in an ordinary envelope. People send and receive thousands of prints daily, and I never heard of a bust, even in countries where it's illegal. There have been a few spore syringe busts, because a syringe full of liquid is suspicious and bulky. Something similar can be done with a piece of dry material, although that is a bit more risky. But still people receive tissue samples often and without problems. I know I'm prejudiced and know next to nothing about Zimbabwe and it's customs, except what I hear in "western" media (nothing of which is very nice), but I'm kinda doubtful there would be many scientists there interesting in sequencing DNA or domesticating psilocybin mushrooms. Also, my prejudice makes me think it would be more dangerous walking around Zimbabwe with psychoactive mushrooms, than sending or receiving spore prints.
Fair points, I was just wondering how strict customs are with these things (if they could find the spore prints, ofcourse). Spore prints aren't traceable then I guess? So aslong as it's hidden well, and maybe add some kind of "holiday card" with it, then people won't suspect a thing?
Edited by MushiNoob (03/09/18 04:58 AM)
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Tangich]
#25051235 - 03/09/18 07:05 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tangich said: Yeah, that's how it's usually done, in a greeting card or something. Prints can't be felt through the paper, and I don't think they all go thorough the machine that can detect small pieces of aluminum foil. I don't even know if there is such a thing! Also, spore prints aren't illegal in many countries, including USA and Australia, as long as they are labeled "for microscopy purposes only".
Aluminum foil might be traceable. But couldn't you just send the spore prints on regular paper or something? I realize it's often done on aluminum because you can't see white spores on regular paper, but when you're sending them it probably doesn't really matter right?
Or can spore prints "go bad"? (I know very little of this yet, haha)
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#25053735 - 03/10/18 05:47 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: Everything
Thanks for the clarifications!
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Tangich]
#25053832 - 03/10/18 07:10 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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