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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: wushroow] 2
#25048061 - 03/08/18 08:22 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice find, this is the first reported occurrence of a psilocybin mushroom in Zimbabwe.
I added it to the official list: https://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-psilocybin-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area
See if you can find more species, there are a lot of undiscovered things in Africa.
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Byrain] 1
#25049850 - 03/08/18 04:09 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Byrain said: I think someone should sequence these. 
Yes.
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Doc9151] 1
#25050185 - 03/08/18 06:11 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doc9151 said: What could it show other than confirming psilocybe cubensis?
There are other Psilocybes in Africa / Asia which resemble cubensis somewhat but are not, such as P. aquamarina, P. natalensis, P. chuxiongensis, P. subaeruginascens, P. aeruginamaculans, P. septentrionalis, various South African collections and whatever is in GenBank as P. subcubensis from Nepal.
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Doc9151]
#25050575 - 03/08/18 09:22 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doc9151 said: Im familiar with p. Subcubensis, however most of the others are new to me, tks Alan, aces as always.
P. subcubensis isn't a real species. The others are.
However OP probably has P. cubensis.
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: MushiNoob] 2
#25053495 - 03/10/18 12:00 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Is sub cubensis just meaning cubes from sub tropics? I here the sporss are slightly smaller? John alken sent me a print from Ecuador i believe and labeled it as subcubensis
Psilocybe subcubensis is a synonym of P. cubensis.
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Doc9151 said: Guzman describes psilocybe subcubensis as being similar to psilocybe cubensis but with smaller spores, are you saying he wrong?
Yes.
Psilocybe cubensis was described from Cuba and P. subcubensis from Mexico. They are synonymous, invasive from Asia.
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MushiNoob said: Just out of curiosity, wouldn't it be kinda risky to mail the spore prints + piece of those mushrooms? Fairly sure it's illegal in most places and not sure if the cops could show up at your door one day if you had send something like that.
Nah, no one cares if you mail small amounts of mushrooms. Postal inspectors are used to finding pounds of mushrooms.
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So practically the same, but with smaller spores? But we shouldn't regard it as an actual real species because it's so similar to cubensis?
Actually the spores in P. cubensis are more variable in size than the original species description gives them credit for.
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Fair points, I was just wondering how strict customs are with these things (if they could find the spore prints, ofcourse). Spore prints aren't traceable then I guess? So aslong as it's hidden well, and maybe add some kind of "holiday card" with it, then people won't suspect a thing?
No one cares about spore prints.
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Aluminum foil might be traceable.
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But couldn't you just send the spore prints on regular paper or something?
Paper isn't sterile and it's porous - not good for prints.
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Or can spore prints "go bad"? (I know very little of this yet, haha)
After a few years they don't work very often.
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There's only 3 U.S. states that have laws against mushroom spores,they are: California, Georgia and Idaho.
And in those three states they don't enforce the spore laws as it's a pain in the ass for crime labs to test them, and they don't have protocols written out for it.
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I noticed that guzman had collected the subcubensis in nepal,
You must be talking about https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/KC669328.1. That's not subcubensis, it's a new species of Psilocybe. Needs to be recollected.
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Psilosadhu] 1
#28637534 - 01/28/24 12:31 AM (9 hours, 13 minutes ago) |
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Psilocybe natalensis is likely. I am not sure that P. cubensis occurs in Africa.
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