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shroomsterbruh
Discoverer: Zimbabwe P. Cubensis

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I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS 8
#25047872 - 03/08/18 05:02 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi guys,
I'm an Aussie currently working in Zimbabwe.
On a bush walk this morning I came across what I'm pretty sure is P. Cubensis.. please confirm anyone if you can!
Found at 1500m above sea level in African bush.
I believe this is a very rare find if they're actually P. Cubs as I can't find ANY documentation on magic mushrooms ever being found here.
-------------------- Discoverer of the first ever documented occurrence of P. Cubensis in Zimbabwe. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25047872
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shroomsterbruh
Discoverer: Zimbabwe P. Cubensis

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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Alan Rockefeller] 5
#25053783 - 03/10/18 06:33 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Guys I just got back from another bush walk and found 6 more P. Cubensis!
3 were growing on old elephant dung - other 3 on old cow dung
I've taken spore prints of the first 2 I found a couple days ago





-------------------- Discoverer of the first ever documented occurrence of P. Cubensis in Zimbabwe. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25047872
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shroomsterbruh
Discoverer: Zimbabwe P. Cubensis

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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: knarkkorven] 4
#25055541 - 03/11/18 03:17 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Spore prints from the first 2 I found:

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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: wushroow] 2
#25048061 - 03/08/18 08:22 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice find, this is the first reported occurrence of a psilocybin mushroom in Zimbabwe.
I added it to the official list: https://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-psilocybin-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area
See if you can find more species, there are a lot of undiscovered things in Africa.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: MushiNoob] 2
#25053495 - 03/10/18 12:00 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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cronicr said: Is sub cubensis just meaning cubes from sub tropics? I here the sporss are slightly smaller? John alken sent me a print from Ecuador i believe and labeled it as subcubensis
Psilocybe subcubensis is a synonym of P. cubensis.
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Doc9151 said: Guzman describes psilocybe subcubensis as being similar to psilocybe cubensis but with smaller spores, are you saying he wrong?
Yes.
Psilocybe cubensis was described from Cuba and P. subcubensis from Mexico. They are synonymous, invasive from Asia.
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MushiNoob said: Just out of curiosity, wouldn't it be kinda risky to mail the spore prints + piece of those mushrooms? Fairly sure it's illegal in most places and not sure if the cops could show up at your door one day if you had send something like that.
Nah, no one cares if you mail small amounts of mushrooms. Postal inspectors are used to finding pounds of mushrooms.
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So practically the same, but with smaller spores? But we shouldn't regard it as an actual real species because it's so similar to cubensis?
Actually the spores in P. cubensis are more variable in size than the original species description gives them credit for.
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Fair points, I was just wondering how strict customs are with these things (if they could find the spore prints, ofcourse). Spore prints aren't traceable then I guess? So aslong as it's hidden well, and maybe add some kind of "holiday card" with it, then people won't suspect a thing?
No one cares about spore prints.
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Aluminum foil might be traceable.
lol
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But couldn't you just send the spore prints on regular paper or something?
Paper isn't sterile and it's porous - not good for prints.
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Or can spore prints "go bad"? (I know very little of this yet, haha)
After a few years they don't work very often.
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There's only 3 U.S. states that have laws against mushroom spores,they are: California, Georgia and Idaho.
And in those three states they don't enforce the spore laws as it's a pain in the ass for crime labs to test them, and they don't have protocols written out for it.
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I noticed that guzman had collected the subcubensis in nepal,
You must be talking about https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/KC669328.1. That's not subcubensis, it's a new species of Psilocybe. Needs to be recollected.
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Tookitooki
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Leftfield420] 2
#25054372 - 03/10/18 12:05 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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You said you are from Australia? I'd print and save a couple to bring back home. Even if it's a little while down the line, just Incase your other outlets fail. Delay is better then a loss.
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: shroomsterbruh] 1
#25047875 - 03/08/18 05:05 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is P. cubensis! PLEASE take a spore print on foil and send it to a good cultivator from this site! Zimbabwe strain sounds awesome!
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Byrain] 1
#25049850 - 03/08/18 04:09 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Byrain said: I think someone should sequence these. 
Yes.
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Byrain

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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Doc9151] 1
#25049941 - 03/08/18 04:44 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Range, genetic diversity, probably lot of other good reasons.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Doc9151] 1
#25050185 - 03/08/18 06:11 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doc9151 said: What could it show other than confirming psilocybe cubensis?
There are other Psilocybes in Africa / Asia which resemble cubensis somewhat but are not, such as P. aquamarina, P. natalensis, P. chuxiongensis, P. subaeruginascens, P. aeruginamaculans, P. septentrionalis, various South African collections and whatever is in GenBank as P. subcubensis from Nepal.
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breeg89
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Doc9151] 1
#25050504 - 03/08/18 08:46 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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This further confirms that Aussies are really good at finding Psilocybes, even on foreign continents.
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Anglerfish
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: elasticaltiger] 1
#25051737 - 03/09/18 11:29 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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elasticaltiger said: I honestly wonder if the massive number of cubensis home growers is spreading spores into the air causing a massive spread of cubensis all across the world.
Not really surprised were seeing it show up in places where we don't expect it.
I think chances are that the species has a long history on the African continent, but not necessarily in a sociocultural aspect.
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Doc9151] 1
#25056291 - 03/11/18 01:19 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: shroomsterbruh] 1
#25085935 - 03/23/18 07:56 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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shroomsterbruh said: Spore prints from the first 2 I found:


What a find! The amount they dropped you coulda made 100's of prints out of them by just moving them onto a fresh piece of foil every five minutes!  Hope you got to send some out, to a few TC's at least. Look forward to seeing them in the flesh in future bulk grows.
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Doc9151
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Viresh] 1
#25690230 - 12/19/18 07:15 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Viresh, welcome to the shroomery, no one can give you an exact location, it's against the rules.
Look anywhere you find cattle, buffalo, elephants or horses. Psilocybe cubensis will grow from dung that has aged about a month or two, never in fresh dung. They also grow in donkey dung.
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dracolusus
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Doc9151] 1
#25690777 - 12/20/18 05:43 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wish the OP got back to me, I'm in S.A. would have loved to have a crack at domesticating this
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Stroph
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: dracolusus] 1
#25690800 - 12/20/18 06:04 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is AMAZING!!! Fantastic find! It must feel good to discover something like that! Kinda like when the Columbian Rust Spore just happened to come to somebody like me...somebody who grew 20 + varieties at a time and who trades constantly, all over the world. I think I just did one cake to start, printed about 8 prints, then sent them along. Grod31 was wise enough to send a sample along to Workman.
I sure hope a fruit body from Zimbabwe shows up on Doc's doorstep. This is important stuff! I'd like to see further research conducted with this variety.
I'm not telling OP what to do, I just wanna back up the research and documentation aspect of this find.
Keep those fungus goggles on, OP! Woohoo!!!
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: thisguytrips] 1
#26013361 - 05/25/19 09:03 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ancient thread, but a very cool one. Would love to hear some updates from OP!
Also, with sequencing, has there been many full genome sequences done, or are they all ITS sequences? Would be really interesting to get full sequences and see the minor differences!
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Psilosadhu] 1
#28637534 - 01/28/24 12:31 AM (9 hours, 4 minutes ago) |
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Psilocybe natalensis is likely. I am not sure that P. cubensis occurs in Africa.
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Re: I think I found P. Cubensis in ZIMBABWE! ID PLS [Re: Tangich]
#25047879 - 03/08/18 05:10 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ps. Cubensis  Nice find
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