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If a person wants to live here fulltime and have rights under the Constitution then they need to become a citizen.

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If a person wants to live here fulltime and have rights under the Constitution then they need to become a citizen.

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Everyone in the US has constitutional rights, even if they jumped the border.

It's funny that the people who demonize immigrants are always the ones least likely to actually pass a citizenship test.

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Enlil said:
This country isn't the same as your residence, though.  That's just silly.  I wouldn't let you in my home, but I share a country with you.  Illegal immigrants enrich our culture and improve our standard of living.  Why not just let them come in and save some bucks on all of this silly and ineffective immigration enforcement?  What are you so afraid of?

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It must be concluded that all persons within the territory of the United States are entitled to the protection by those amendments [Fifth and Sixth] and that even aliens shall not be held to answer for a capital or other infamous crime, unless on presentment or indictment of a grand jury, nor deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law.

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Fucknuckled said:

I don't understand the issue with LAW and ORDER

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Enlil said: Illegal immigrants enrich our culture and improve our standard of living.

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I don't understand the issue with LAW and ORDER

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I have no issue with law and order.  I just think the time has come to change the laws and let people come and go as they please.

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Lol, you believe that illegal immigrants don't have Constitutional rights?  Let me help clear up your ignorance.  See Zadvydas v. Davis and Almeida-Sanchez v. United States

Also see Wong Win v. United States

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I am telling you flat out. I lived in Las Vegas 4 years and El Paso 2 years. The illegals crossing the border are very real problem and is extremely dangerous for both sides. You can wrap as many libtard paid for studies you want around your head but it does not change the fact everyday dozens of bodies are pulled outta the sand. My job was to Run miles of fences and install cattle guards and other welding/ fab jobs. I ran my Truck hundreds of miles up and down the border area. I was in dozens of local bars, motels and gas stations. I talked to hundreds of people. I was there in the thick of it for 6 years. I got into alot of talks with fine hard working mexicans and many are good friends to this day.

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If a person wants to live here fulltime and have rights under the Constitution then they need to become a citizen.

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100% LIE.....LMFAO.....and I will wait for you to show me the part in the constitution where it says that




This debate has nothing to do with "Libtard Studies" as you call them. Some of us have a lot of interaction with illegal/undocumented aliens and view our experiences with them as positive. Some of you have a lot of interaction with them and view your experiences as negative.

    In some cases we've had different experiences, but in the long run our differing opinions are caused by opinions we formed before we even encountered these immigrants.

    That is my way of saying some of us are bigots and some of aren't. Try to convince me that those with negative attitudes toward those immigrants are unbiased toward poor blacks and poor legal immigrants.

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I've lived in Los Angeles for 42 years, and I promise you that the culture is far better because of the undocumented population.

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This country isn't the same as your residence, though.  That's just silly.  I wouldn't let you in my home, but I share a country with you.  Illegal immigrants enrich our culture and improve our standard of living.  Why not just let them come in and save some bucks on all of this silly and ineffective immigration enforcement?  What are you so afraid of?

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I have no idea who that is or what expertise she has on the topic.  Nonetheless, I've lived in Los Angeles for 42 years, and I promise you that the culture is far better because of the undocumented population.

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This country isn't the same as your residence, though.  That's just silly.  I wouldn't let you in my home, but I share a country with you.  Illegal immigrants enrich our culture and improve our standard of living.  Why not just let them come in and save some bucks on all of this silly and ineffective immigration enforcement?  What are you so afraid of?

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Let's look at it from a small scale: Imagine your neighborhood you live in as the usa and then your home within that neighborhood. Now what if all the illegal immigrants moved into your neighborhood? They play loud circus music at all hours of the night so you won't be getting any sleep to start with. Have you ever been to the ghetto or to any low income area??? They also like to burn shit in the middle of the street. If you're white, you can bet they'll vandalize your car or do something to fuck it up a little.

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Have you ever been to the heart of Van Nuys? They (illegals) don't have the same education about sanitation as we do in the usa so they bring their filthy ways over here.

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