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Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms * 2
    #25042001 - 03/06/18 03:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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First came the weed. Now, maybe it’s the mushrooms.

After a few rousing chants of “free the spores,” a small group of roughly 20 citizens filtered into the Denver city and county building Monday for a meeting with city officials and emerged knowing they may soon have the all-clear to gather signatures on a measure to decriminalize psychedelic mushrooms.

The group calls itself Colorado for Psilocybin after the fungi’s scientific name. Their proposed measure would do away with felony charges for people caught with mushrooms, and make them the lowest enforcement priority for Denver police.

Anyone caught with more than two ounces of dried mushrooms, or two pounds of uncured “wet” mushrooms, would be subject to a citation: less than $99 for the first offense, increased by increments of $100 for subsequent offenses, and never more than $999 per citation.

Tyler Williams, one of the leaders of the Psilocybin Decriminalization Initiative, says the marijuana legalization efforts of yesteryear did provide a helpful roadmap when constructing the initiative. Williams is a believer, too. He’s a co-founder of the Denver chapter of the Psychedelic Club at the University of Colorado Boulder.

“I’m a big believer in cognitive liberty, and so whatever people decide to consume I think is up to them,” Williams says. “I think people should be informed about what they are consuming, and they shouldn’t have to be afraid of going to jail for that.”

Williams adds that he feels psilocybin offers mental health, and spiritual and intellectual benefits.

During the group’s meeting with city officials, Williams pointed to examples of changing tides in drug policy elsewhere. A 2005 appeals court decision in New Mexico effectively legalized the cultivation of psilocybin. Last year, Oregon reduced possession charges for many illegal drugs from a felony to a misdemeanor. California voters approved a similar measure in 2014.

Another state may beat Colorado to the ballot: California may vote on a similar measure later this year.

Kevin Matthews, who helps lead the campaign and helped draft the initiative, says now is the right time for Denver to decriminalize, based on recent studies on the possible medicinal applications of psychedelics.

“I’m proud to say that psilocybin has had a pretty massive impact on my life,” Matthews says. “I struggled with depression for years, I was diagnosed with major depression as a teenager."

Matthews says he and other advocates want people to use psilocybin responsibly, so that they can have the best experience with it.

“It’s helped me tremendously with my own mental health and on top of that, with creativity, and really being able to just explore different aspects of myself, and really get some healing from the inside out,” he says.

Matthews points to a study by Johns Hopkins University that found psilocybin users dealing with cancer-related stress reported lasting positive effects one year later. A New York University study produced similar results. 

Another study conducted at London’s imperial college last year found that it could help treat stubborn cases of depression.

That’s why Michele Ross joined the campaign to support the initiative. She’s a neuroscientist and the director of Impact Network, a nonprofit focused on medical marijuana and women's health.  “We could apply lessons from cannabis legalization and apply them to psilocybin legalization,” she said. “There’s no reason that both shouldn’t be legalized because psilocybin or magic mushrooms are just as safe as cannabis.”

Ross also says she uses psilocybin as well as cannabis to treat her depression and post-traumatic stress disorder.

“I use many different natural substances,” she says,” but psilocybin is one thing that helps me overcome depression in a way that cannabis hasn’t.”

Monday’s meeting was a public hearing to hash out the phrasing and other questions about the initiative, such as enforcement. The next step will be to submit petition materials for review with the Denver Elections Division. If and when that body gives final approval, the pro-mushroom advocates can begin gathering signatures to get the initiative on the ballot this fall.

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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: losfreddy]
    #25042048 - 03/06/18 05:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

This is great news and i really hope it comes to fruitition. Someone has to protect the mushies, and honestly, what state better than colorado? If this happens, man theres gonna be even more of an influx of colorado newcomers, if the weed was a big deal, this will be like (semi, lol) fugitives from society moving to a mushroom sanctuary city.

Whether its california or colorado, i just dont get why california keeps spores illegal if they consider this


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Fractal420]
    #25042375 - 03/06/18 10:42 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah yeah, its snowballing! I bet this makes it easier to pass at a city level compared to state, interesting idea.

I keep seeing this quote associated with this story and it irks me a tidbit "The group calls itself Colorado for Psilocybin after the fungi’s scientific name." Incorrect, no? :lol:


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25042438 - 03/06/18 11:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah yeah, its snowballing! I bet this makes it easier to pass at a city level compared to state, interesting idea.

I keep seeing this quote associated with this story and it irks me a tidbit "The group calls itself Colorado for Psilocybin after the fungi’s scientific name." Incorrect, no? :lol:




Yeah. Like when they make a bust and say several mushroom plants were removed from the site by workers wearing hazmat suits. Eh, close enough. Lmao.

I'm really excited to hear this. What will be really exciting is when they make cultivation legal. That will be the day.


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: losfreddy]
    #25042454 - 03/06/18 11:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

This is great news. God, I'm so happy I live in a generation where I'm watching actual opinions change and countries realizing the propaganda and lies brought upon these substances.
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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: StonedhillDefender]
    #25042779 - 03/06/18 01:28 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It's the Age of Aquarius.....


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: FractalMind]
    #25042842 - 03/06/18 02:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Zeitgeistmovie.com ^

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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Fractal420]
    #25043376 - 03/06/18 05:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I could use one of those buttons


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: tealeaf] * 1
    #25043389 - 03/06/18 06:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

And just think, we could all start similar petitions in our own cities :ohmygod:


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25043543 - 03/06/18 07:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Then on to peyote, kaht, coca leaves, ayahuasca and all other organics.


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Micromicology] * 1
    #25043812 - 03/06/18 09:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

These kids have everything these days haha


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: iSMOKErocks]
    #25044706 - 03/07/18 09:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

^cocaine is schedule 2 so its actually not totally illegal (federally) like, sadly, peyote and lsd. Mushrooms too but unlike peyote and cannabis spores are not scheduled. theres a sponsor with gummies made from coca.

But, what fucked up laws. So nonsensical. Not that its anything new


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Fractal420]
    #25045586 - 03/07/18 01:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

had to double check that, he's right :wtf:


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Fractal420]
    #25045989 - 03/07/18 03:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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But, what fucked up laws. So nonsensical. Not that its anything new




It's not as nonsensical as you might initially think. Basically, if something is FDA-approved, that constitutes a medical use and its Schedule 2. However, this means a truck done of studies have been completed, so the drug is really well-characterized.


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: badchad]
    #25047523 - 03/08/18 12:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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But, what fucked up laws. So nonsensical. Not that its anything new




It's not as nonsensical as you might initially think. Basically, if something is FDA-approved, that constitutes a medical use and its Schedule 2. However, this means a truck done of studies have been completed, so the drug is really well-characterized.



Well yes, but the FDA the DEA and one other government organization that I'm forgetting,  has to approve the drug for testing which kinda makes it fucked because the DEA does not want to lose the funding it gets for taking down all the "bad" people "producing" (growing) these drugs and the FDA knows damn well that no one will ever fork over the $ for the testing because they will never make that boat load of testing $ back.


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: losfreddy]
    #25047970 - 03/08/18 09:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Was living in Denver long ago when they had a petition to sign outside the library for medical marijuana which I signed.  How far it has come.  I don't think this will happen though I wish it would.  Would be great to have the paranoia gone.


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Micromicology]
    #25048007 - 03/08/18 09:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Well yes, but the FDA the DEA and one other government organization that I'm forgetting,  has to approve the drug for testing which kinda makes it fucked because the DEA does not want to lose the funding it gets for taking down all the "bad" people "producing" (growing) these drugs and the FDA knows damn well that no one will ever fork over the $ for the testing because they will never make that boat load of testing $ back.




FDA approves roughly 30 drugs a year for marketing, and they authorize hundreds more for testing. So it seems plenty of organizations pay for testing. None of this really affects DEA's funding.


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: badchad]
    #25048350 - 03/08/18 01:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I don't see how there can be market controls on any other plant, drug, or pharm, if they can decriminalize a full-on hallucinogen.

How do you go from that extreme, to saying you need special permission for a digestive aid, sex tonic, or for foot fungus, etc.


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: badchad] * 1
    #25048999 - 03/08/18 02:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

3 states now that are working on psilocybin initiatives. California, Oregon, and Colorado.


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: molemole]
    #25049006 - 03/08/18 03:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

its just denver but its definitely awesome to see the movement spread


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #25050674 - 03/09/18 12:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I don't need an excuse to party, but if Colorado or California decriminalizes magic mushrooms, I will throw a fucking party to celebrate.


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #25050715 - 03/09/18 12:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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And just think, we could all start similar petitions in our own cities :ohmygod:



If I could plus one this ten times, I would. This should be stickied somewhere, I'm not sure where or how, but somewhere and somehow.

It's great to see so much momentum particularly around such a worthy drug. I've done a lot of drugs, and I really can't say enough good things about magic mushrooms in particular. I think they're the safest and best way to introduce the general public to psychedelics.

It's really exciting to see all this momentum, and I really hope we can keep it going. I never dreamed I'd see this much momentum in my life time. You guys have all done a great job just getting this far.

However, I think we should remember that the first attempts (that I know of anyway) to legalize marijuana in the US took place in the 70s (or earlier). This is a very long game that is played very slowly, and you often take one step forward only to take two steps back. I think we should all be prepared for setbacks and for the long game.

Whether or not these measures succeed or fail, we must keep moving forward.


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: nooneman]
    #25050721 - 03/09/18 12:59 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Agreed! If either of those states actually pass the vote I'm really going to shit my pants, but even a failed vote is a big step forward.

I live in a pretty shroomy area, I really ought to get started in my city. Would love to see more folks on shroomery as into this as you are.


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25053750 - 03/10/18 08:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I dont think the DEA gets too much out of mushroom busts. You hear of them like once a week, sometimes once a month, but thats across the whole US, and even little projects with a few contammed jars make headlines and then they say the bacteria/metabolites are "pure lsd" lol.


Point is, there arent that many mushroom busts or even mushroom dealers. Not like weed busts or really any "drug". And Lucy i almost never see big time busts, which is obv a great thing. Its usually a guy on a bike who has 25 blotters on him, they say its like $1.2 million worth


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Re: Coloroado wants to decrimalize magic mushrooms [Re: Fractal420]
    #25053756 - 03/10/18 08:08 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It seems to be the next logical step after cannabis becomes legal in the US and Canada nationwide.


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    #25056727 - 03/11/18 07:08 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Couldn't agree more.  It takes awhile for the war on drugs compared to reality and logic to meet the masses and enter their consciousness.  More power to you, I will do my part.:mushroom2:


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    #25409944 - 08/24/18 02:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Totally hope that the entire US at some point decriminalizes magic shrooms for real. That would be too awesome!


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    #25410003 - 08/24/18 03:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

We're pushing to have it on the ballot in 2020 here in Oregon.

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    #25411510 - 08/25/18 05:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I hope any and every state considering this luck, and wish you accomplish this. It would be yet another amazing precedent, a step beyond cannabis.


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