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seagu

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Oyster - Sizing of bags, buckets, containers
#25035594 - 03/03/18 09:33 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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What is a the smallest size of a container to get a good full sized cluster of Oysters from 1 hole, side pinning? 5" cube? 4" cube? 3" cube?
RR had said that, for example, the optimal sized tube bag is 10 inch. Buckets, which are bigger if done right can for the most part get good clusters from just about every hole.
But poly tubing and buckets can often not give you the optimal space usage for getting the most yield for the space used. Kinda like trying to fit a square into a round hole. Not optimal.
Has anyone experimented with this?
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Re: Oyster - Sizing of bags, buckets, containers [Re: seagu]
#25038893 - 03/04/18 06:20 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe if I explain a little more of what is going into the question:
Obviously I am looking at maximizing space for fruiting. I realize that various supplements and substrate used can affect yield. Besides temp, RH and FAE. Also leaving the substrate with the bag on with holes cut in or taking the bag off entirely will affect yield. In a bucket various sized holes, spacing of the holes will all affect yield too. Etc..
But what about small blocks. Small enough and big enough for just 1 hole in the side. For example 5"x 5" x 3 " ? Or even some rectangle sized box with 2 holes or 4. These could all easily be stacked in a wall fashion, or even on a wall, utilizing the complete wall area. So, using my example size depending on which way it is stacked including area for fruits to grow roughly 8"-10" deep. So in a 6'x 6' x 6' fruiting area, for example, not including a walking area to walk down and pick the fruits - 9 "walls" which would be roughly the equivalent of 98 buckets. Make the walls sliding so they can be accessed as needed. A box fan or 2 for FAE. This potentially turns a space for 30 buckets with 540 total holes into roughly 98 "buckets" equivalent with 1,764 holes. And contamination in a block of course means not losing a whole bucket of 18 holes, but just that 1, 2 or 4 hole block.
Insight on minimum sizing for a block size?
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Re: Oyster - Sizing of bags, buckets, containers [Re: seagu]
#25039086 - 03/04/18 07:51 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Look up YouTube videos of oysters growing in Africa. They use small bags in wall form.
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seagu

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Re: Oyster - Sizing of bags, buckets, containers [Re: Quadman]
#25039733 - 03/05/18 05:40 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I will look it up. Though I am trying to look at other ways than bags and having to cut holes all the time.
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Re: Oyster - Sizing of bags, buckets, containers [Re: seagu]
#25039774 - 03/05/18 06:21 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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They don't always cut holes. They pack the bags, pasteurize in a drum and put a ring on the bag that leaves an opening after colonization. They are stacked sideways like firewood.
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seagu

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Re: Oyster - Sizing of bags, buckets, containers [Re: Bry Bry]
#25039829 - 03/05/18 07:06 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think I have found the walls you are referring to:
These bags are pretty deep. Looks approximately 8"-10". Maybe even 12" ? Which seems to me they would easily be able to take another hole on the other side and produce 2 good cluster? But that seems by having more than 1 hole to allow more of a possibility that 1 side might not produce anything?
Do these bags need to be that deep? Would they consistently produce a good cluster if they were say 3"-6" deep? What would be the minimum depth? Or optimal depth?
These bags look 4"-5" wide?
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Re: Oyster - Sizing of bags, buckets, containers [Re: seagu]
#25040655 - 03/05/18 02:52 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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In theory there is no minimum optimum size. Amount of substrate and quality of substrate will dictate yield. These are comparisons that you need to do for your conditions.
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