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    #25039436 - 03/04/18 10:54 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

if you are awakened to the third state of consciousness, i want to know if you get nightmares. seems like the nightmares cease when we "wake up".


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: Deadfrancis]
    #25066453 - 03/15/18 06:11 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I would not say it is a "third state".  As you become more conscious you realize you were always conscious, just that you were not conscious of your consciousness.

When you love yourself, what is a nightmare?


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: IamAlot]
    #25066528 - 03/15/18 06:57 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I'm at second level.. nightmares are rare currently..

I have very vivid dreams the first few hours of sleep..


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #25067808 - 03/16/18 03:12 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

nightmares have gotten WAY WAY WAYYYY less intense than before (in fact, i can't remember having a nightmare to any real effect of scaring me since...maybe you're onto something OP)...so has alot of STRANGE dream states...but i dunno man. no answers for you here, just maybe a bit of a lead. i had massive fucked up nightmares a couple years ago, had posted about it here, and all...since then, i mean, it's gotten to the point where my world has opened up (inwardly) quite a bit, and i don't really have nightmares anymore, like you said...just...still, you know, "weird" but...ever since the time when i was basically dealing with what felt "demonic" (as one poster put it), and was having REAL trouble sleeping without night terrors, false awakenings inside of false awakenings (inside of false awakenings, ect ect, really scary not being able to wake from a dream, and when you think you do, you're really not, and still in a nightmare, but only made aware when you realize you're still dreaming....)-- since after that, a real turn has been made, alot of things have changed. some for better, some for...well, not worse...really, things, ultimately have gotten better....


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #25069361 - 03/16/18 05:48 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm, I had a nightmare last night..


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #25069368 - 03/16/18 05:50 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

i had some really strange dreams, but couldn't call any of them a nightmare...but yeah, funny that, eh? you're talking about it, and poof....


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    #25069376 - 03/16/18 05:53 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Hmmm, dreams are probably salient to the things going on in your life, et proper..

Including unconscious and sub concious affects, and desires.


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: IamAlot]
    #25071886 - 03/17/18 08:20 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

im asking because one day when i went in for a psych exam thanks to my mom, i went off and said something about my mom being asleep, and then being asked if i still get nightmares, after pondering a minute i said yes, but because i had a dream that was creepy, not a nightmare but  still very dark so i considered it a nightmare at the time, and the lady said  " seems we are still asleep then" and walked away.

so now thinking about it, i have not had a nightmare since my spiritual awakening.

and yes it is called the third state of consciousness, there are four in total and they are all recorded and very definable, like the number 1.

there is dreamless sleep, where most are when they are depressed, then we awaken to sleep, with dreams, hopes and dreams and desires, and then we "wake up" to awakening, the third state, where we live in the moment, live for the day, dont make schedules dont live in fear or worry just ride the waves and yada yada.

then the fourth is christ consciousness.

since the third is the end of what is called, living in fear, it only makes sense that what that woman said is true, that if you are awakened you no longer receive nightmares. i will certainly update if anything  changes but it has been two years and no nightmares, not a single one since my spiritual awakening.


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: Deadfrancis] * 2
    #25079203 - 03/21/18 02:17 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

There is no "third stage of consciousness" nor is there a "fourth stage" that's completely meaningless make believe bullshit. Also the idea of enlightenment is a bunch of bullshit in general. No one is more "enlightened" than anyone else, the word doesn't even have any real meaning, except possibly as another word for "big ego."


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: nooneman]
    #25079210 - 03/21/18 02:31 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

ego is good. keeps things interesting for everyone who wants to AUM


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #25079506 - 03/21/18 08:24 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Here's a nightmare:

We can't experience telepathy as an accepted utility without sacrificing children...because we have to filter out unwanted noise.

"Children should be seen and not heard" is a recognizable filter/sacrifice of children.

So in the interest of Matthew 5:29 "if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out" we have to forego the full utility of telepathy if the sacrifice of children offends us.


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: nooneman]
    #25080376 - 03/21/18 04:05 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

so quantum physics is a bunch of bullshit too then isnt it?

its a form of measurement, of course it doesnt exist, neither does your name, or america, or time and space, or family, but we tie together what we need to in order to make sense of the world around us, and there are paradigm shifts for at least the third and fourth states of consciousness, and quantum scientist john hagelin agrees.

i say, agrees, because i came up with the same idea before i knew anything about this.

there is asleep, awake, then christ consciousness, then low and behold, this dude says the same thing,



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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: Deadfrancis]
    #25080397 - 03/21/18 04:16 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

boom, 5 minutes and 10 seconds.

you mean to tell me that this dude is full of shit?



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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: Deadfrancis] * 3
    #25080406 - 03/21/18 04:19 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

When you have twisted dreams, it means it's time to twist up a reefer.


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: sunshine] * 1
    #25083167 - 03/22/18 06:11 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Deadfrancis said:
if you are awakened to the third state of consciousness, i want to know if you get nightmares. seems like the nightmares cease when we "wake up".




What?  I have “woken up”.  I dont ever have nightmares anymore.  Sometimes, I have dreams that are very, very strange because dreams function as the brain is unconscious; and that can result in the subconscious/unconscious thoughts being stitched together incorrectly.  The last time I had an actual “nightmare” was during opiate withdrawal; which I’ve noticed gives the most realistic fucked-up dreams of all.

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There is no "third stage of consciousness" nor is there a "fourth stage" that's completely meaningless make believe bullshit. Also the idea of enlightenment is a bunch of bullshit in general. No one is more "enlightened" than anyone else, the word doesn't even have any real meaning, except possibly as another word for "big ego."




Exactly.  Out of ~8 billion peoples lifetimes, a few will become enlightened.  Which is 1.25*e-10.  Which means that you are, gauranteed - not enlightened.

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Here's a nightmare:

We can't experience telepathy as an accepted utility without sacrificing children...because we have to filter out unwanted noise.

"Children should be seen and not heard" is a recognizable filter/sacrifice of children.

So in the interest of Matthew 5:29 "if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out" we have to forego the full utility of telepathy if the sacrifice of children offends us.




What the f#$# are you talking about buster brown?  That quote is clearly to say that childrens immature ideas are not to be seen or heard because they are nonsense...

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so quantum physics is a bunch of bullshit too then isnt it?

its a form of measurement, of course it doesnt exist, neither does your name, or america, or time and space, or family, but we tie together what we need to in order to make sense of the world around us, and there are paradigm shifts for at least the third and fourth states of consciousness, and quantum scientist john hagelin agrees.

i say, agrees, because i came up with the same idea before i knew anything about this.

there is asleep, awake, then christ consciousness, then low and behold, this dude says the same thing,
[/flash]




Quantum physics is not a bunch of bullshit.  Yes, your name, America, and time and space exist, your family exists.  Just because something exists in your head doesn’t mean its real.  And yes, sleep states, waking states, and christ consciousness all exist. 

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sunshine said:
When you have twisted dreams, it means it's time to twist up a reefer.




Once again, the most wise man on the shroomery speaks.


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: Deadfrancis]
    #25086181 - 03/23/18 10:24 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

correct

but it is possible to become unenlightened at any point, people can slip back into unconsciousness or start to use a substance.

If you are true to your path though your dream state is just pure bliss.

I often get downloads of information or upgrades as well. :grin:


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: LightRay] * 1
    #25087599 - 03/24/18 04:41 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I like your sig LightRay. :laugh:

Once the personal "I" evaporates into the ocean of the ubiquitous "I" there is no going back because the process looks at itself and realises it never left the Self state. Something confuses it eternally; the personal "I" can no longer exist. The only thing that truly makes sense is inaction. Inaction leads to harnessing of the energy of the Self and as your level of being improves and improves upon itself, so does your perception of the world or sense frequency, as seeing is only Being. There are infinite dimensions in the present. There is only inner space, no outer space. NASA is obsolete.


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: beforethedawn] * 1
    #25088907 - 03/25/18 08:12 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

The journey of Enlightenment is usually sparked by intense suffering. Pain and suffering make the world go round. Eliminating negative experience entirely isn't taking in the whole picture.


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #25097614 - 03/28/18 04:01 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

family is a word we ascribe meaning to, an animal does not acknowledge it's parents but depends on them for survival and through that process compassion is found, creating the illusion of "family".

you're reinstating my point exactly, just because something appears real or has a word that describes it doesnt mean it is real, and no, those things i mentioned do not exist, time, space, death, reality, family, america, and even our very name, are all ideas, they are not quantifiable, no god says i cant call myself beezow doo doo zopitty bop bop bop. and yes thats someones real name.


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Re: if you are enlightened, please read. [Re: Deadfrancis]
    #25097621 - 03/28/18 04:03 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

dont get me wrong i love my relatives but all it takes is a little understanding to shift all you compassion from those few people to the rest of your family, the whole world, they mean as much to you as your given family does, you just dont know it yet because youre still living under the impression that we are all different, when we are all just other incarnations of each other, there is you and only you, everyone is you. so what does that tell you about family?


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