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ID Help with Possible Panaeolus Cyanescens?
    #25034982 - 03/02/18 11:32 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Habitat:
They were found in a slanted pasture, sprouting directly from two separate cow paddies. QLD region, Australia.

Gills:
Pure white cap, apart from the larger one which has a slightly browning cap. The gills are dark grey to almost black with no veil.

Stem:
The length and diameter of the largest stem would roughly be the size of a pencil (no ruler). The colour of the stems are white apart from the top of one which has black spots (probably spore stains?). Smooth texture and solid stem.

Cap:
Slightly larger than an Aussie 50c piece. White cap with slight tanning of the largest one. Smooth texture. Quite conical and convex cap.

Spore print color:
Dark grey to black.




Bruising:
This is where the evidence I know contradicts itself. I have bruised all the stems without any sign of bluing (maybe a slight darkening of the biggest stem). I'm guessing that's a turnoff from them being P.Cyans?

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Re: ID Help with Possible Panaeolus Cyanescens? [Re: DrunkRobot] * 1
    #25034989 - 03/02/18 11:35 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Panaeolus antillarum.

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Re: ID Help with Possible Panaeolus Cyanescens? [Re: Ran-D]
    #25035046 - 03/03/18 01:03 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the ID.


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Re: ID Help with Possible Panaeolus Cyanescens? [Re: DrunkRobot]
    #25037030 - 03/03/18 09:37 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Panaeolus cyanescens will have a much thinner looking stipe than the antillarum,  also antillarum have a glossy appearance to the top of the cap, cyanescens do not.


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Re: ID Help with Possible Panaeolus Cyanescens? [Re: Doc9151]
    #25037067 - 03/03/18 09:57 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Ah it was difficult to look for discrepancies between them online, thanks.


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Re: ID Help with Possible Panaeolus Cyanescens? [Re: DrunkRobot]
    #25037104 - 03/03/18 10:19 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Dont be quick to throw any out when in the field,  I have had some that took up to 45min to show bluing.

That glossy cap, fat stem are no go's, the cyanescens will sometimes have a straw colored stem too, if they've got that fat stem, glossy cap, dont even waste your time.


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Re: ID Help with Possible Panaeolus Cyanescens? [Re: Doc9151]
    #25037519 - 03/04/18 05:04 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Doc9151 said:
Dont be quick to throw any out when in the field,  I have had some that took up to 45min to show bluing.

That glossy cap, fat stem are no go's, the cyanescens will sometimes have a straw colored stem too, if they've got that fat stem, glossy cap, dont even waste your time.



Good to know :cheers:


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