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OfflineJackhammer2113
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ID plz.
    #25036193 - 03/03/18 04:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Could someone ID these. I dropped some spores in the location I found these. Weilii.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Jackhammer2113]
    #25036414 - 03/03/18 06:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What color are the spores? I'm guessing Entoloma. Take the spore print on foil in case the spores are white.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Byrain]
    #25036475 - 03/03/18 06:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

See that’s what I thought too, but they smell like cucumbers, also dry tops.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Jackhammer2113]
    #25036630 - 03/03/18 08:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Not weilii. I agree with Entoloma; some of them smell like cucumbers too.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: breeg89]
    #25037012 - 03/03/18 11:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Entoloma is what Ithink too


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Doc9151]
    #25037545 - 03/04/18 07:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I tossed em, these were so similar. Gills for sure through me off


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Jackhammer2113]
    #25037548 - 03/04/18 07:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Also the time of year was strange, but we have had some weird weather here. I’m gonna go check my main spot.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Jackhammer2113]
    #25038634 - 03/04/18 06:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Lamellar attachment is off for Entoloma though. I don't really have a good suggestion.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Aleks.T]
    #25038651 - 03/04/18 06:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'd still like to see a spore print personally.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Byrain]
    #25040338 - 03/05/18 01:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd still like to see a spore print personally.



Agree, even though I hate sporeprints :P


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Aleks.T]
    #25040347 - 03/05/18 02:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I hate sporeprints :P




Like, hate to look at them, make them or plainly hate them full stop?

Other than that I think OP's mushroom resembles one of the late winter/ early spring Clitocybe spp.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Anglerfish]
    #25040369 - 03/05/18 02:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yea, Clitocybe sounds better than Entoloma now that you mention it.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Byrain]
    #25040465 - 03/05/18 03:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Microscopy is going to be needed to determine this one imo.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Doc9151]
    #25040473 - 03/05/18 03:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If its Clitocybe microscopy may not be very helpful, Clitocybe don't tend to have many useful microscopic characteristics, mostly just spore size. The Californian key relies mostly on macroscopic details like how hygrophanous they are and smell...


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Byrain]
    #25040492 - 03/05/18 03:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I meant for genus id, it would determine whether its Entoloma or clitocybe by spore shape or atleast rule out Entoloma.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Doc9151]
    #25040524 - 03/05/18 03:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yea, the angular spores in Entoloma should be distinct from the spore sin Clitocybe. Wouldn't spore color work too though? I've never seen a Clitocybe leave a salmon pink spore print.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Byrain]
    #25040673 - 03/05/18 04:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

True, but if the specimens no longer dropping spores that's the only way to tell.  I'm just assuming that the specimens are too old now that's where I come up with that


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Doc9151]
    #25040854 - 03/05/18 06:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Or maybe do a DNA sequence and end up with Melanoleuca.


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Anglerfish]
    #25040894 - 03/05/18 06:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Melanoleauca spores are amyloid with ornamented warts and may have conspicuous cystidia so microscopy should help there. :smile:


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Re: ID plz. [Re: Anglerfish]
    #25041174 - 03/05/18 07:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Or maybe do a DNA sequence and end up with Melanoleuca.



Right, that would definitely narrow it dowm.


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