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An introduction and Mazapatec mono grow log
    #25034960 - 03/02/18 11:15 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Hello everyone, grow4fun here. I have been lurking anonymously and reading many threads and posts on the Shroomery for over two years now and have begun growing in the last year and a half. I am still new however I am learning quickly and will continue to learn as this is a very fun and rewarding hobby and what better place to learn and contribute than the Shroomery.

Introduction
I begun with the PF tek as most do and with great success I then moved onto bulk grains and won't look back as I find it's mush easier to do than the PF tek, I have used half pint jars to quart jars, even used DIY vacuum sealed spawn bags, successful G2G transfers, making prints and LC, multiple monotubs and even trays inside a small GH. I believe I have a lot to contribute to the community, not just growing but health and nutrition, weight training, computing. I am here to learn and share as much as I can. I took a break from growing due to financial situations, however I am back and more prepared than ever.

Grow log
Thanks to Anno as well as many other contributors both on and off site I like to use the invaluable NSNS(no soak no simmer) tek. I have put together a big batch of rye using quart jars and filling each jar with 200g of rye and 200g of H20 with some gypsum for a total of 5 jars. I then pressure cooked for 90 minutes at a minimum 15PSI, innoc'd using a vendor Mazapatec MS variety. Temps are low in the room so I use a space heater a few times a day for 5-10 minutes to keep things moving. I shook each jar when they were 25-35% colonized. Each jar took about 3 weeks to fully colonize. As for the substrate I used Damion's simple coir tek, however only half was made. I placed 300g of coir and 100g of verm inside a 5gal bucket and poured 1750g of boiled H20 over top and then covered. After about 60 minutes I then mixed the substrate thoroughly and then let sit for 6 hours. I decided thanks to a helpful idea to experiment with small 6QT sterilite tubs. For this log I decided to use 5 of these small tubs. I will continue to update this grow log for everyone to see.

Quart jar recipe
- 200 grams of organic rye
- 200 grams of H20
- knife tips of gypsum
Total: approx 400g spawn per jar (5 jars are used in this log)



Each jar was shook and pressure cooked for 90 minutes at 15PSI. I had inoculated each jar using Mazapatec MS syringe provided by a vendor. Each jar was colonized within 3 weeks.

Substrate recipe
- 300 grams of organic coconut coir
- 100 grams of vermiculite
- 1750 grams of H20
- Small handful of gypsum
Total: approx 2150g substrate



I used Damion's standard coir tek. I took 300g of coir (approx 1/2 brick) as well as 100g of verm (approx 1QT) and poured 1750g of boiled H20 (approx 2QT) in a 5gal bucket and covered. Mixed thoroughly after 60 minutes and let sit for 6 hours before mixing with spawn.

6QT sterilite micro monotub recipe
- x5 1QT(400g) jar of spawn
- x5 1QT(430g) jar of substrate
- x5 6QT sterilite tub



Each tub was wiped down with isopropyl and then mixed with 400g of spawn and 430g of prepared substrate which is approximately a 1:1 (spawn:substrate) ratio.





I crumbled the spawn into the tub and then added a jar of substrate and gave a good mix. I did this to all 5 tubs, I had 1 full jar of substrate left so I added a thin casing layer to each tub so there is no exposed grains. Each tub has a substrate depth of about 1.5-1.75".



Adding the spawn and substrate took me about 45 minutes to do all 5 tubs. Now all I need to do is wait, I am not providing a liner because I am going to see if this tub is good enough to provide good fresh air on the surface to avoid side pins.

I am expecting 28 grams dried per tub on the first flush, I have 5 tubs, so hopefully it totals out to 140 grams dried. I will update this as it colonizes and fruits. Thanks everyone, enjoy.

7 days after spawning to tubs:





I dub'd three tubs and flipped the lid on one and left the lid on one tub. Will compare results when done.

UPDATE: 3/26

Nice pinset, unfortunately every tub has lots of side pins, however a pins a pin. All tubs have a good pinset imo. I had to fan each tub like crazy last night due to signs of low FAE, wild and skinny fruits. Now they are starting to look healthy.









Just to give you an idea of what all the sides are looking like, going back to liners after this one.



I don't like how small the fruits are though, probably won't use this variety again, oh well.

UPDATE: 3/28





UPDATE: 3/31

After harvesting all 5 tubs and drying them I was left with 93g so avg 18.6g per tub. Heres some nice pics.









Sorry for the shit camera quality.

Glad to finally join and be able to post and share my hobby with this community. I will continue to update this thread periodically from start to finish. I plan to make multiple grows logs with these small 6QT tubs using different variations in the spawn and substrate for experimental purposes. I am sure a lot of people would love to see the different comparisons. Any questions please ask me.

Edited by grow4fun (03/31/18 11:36 AM)

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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: grow4fun]
    #25034977 - 03/02/18 11:29 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I look towards your progress brother man, keep us posted.

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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: Shrooms4life]
    #25035004 - 03/02/18 11:56 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Yes please do! Just started my first grow on the 27th and got some myc starting as of this morning  :grin: . Good write up and good luck brother!  :cheers:

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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: Luckydevi13]
    #25035010 - 03/02/18 11:58 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: Luckydevi13]
    #25035277 - 03/03/18 06:03 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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I look towards your progress brother man, keep us posted.




Thanks, I'll keep the thread updated as much as possible

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Have you thought about using shoeboxes? https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24038695/fpart/1/vc/1




I have used small bins/trays without lids similar to the size of shoe boxes inside a small green house. However the limited height bothers me, I like to leave at least 8" in height if I have a lid on. You just gave me an idea though, I have a mini shoe box tub thats about 5" in height, I'll do a rez effect style tub without any holes and just fan and mist when necessary, I'll use 1-1.5" sub depth and using 1:1 parts verm/spawn. I'll make sure to post the results.  :hehehe: 

I also have a couple small 20qt tubs that I will be using very soon, I am just waiting to decide if I will do the classic monotub style with 1-2" holes on the sides of the tub or a shotgun/monotub style.

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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: grow4fun]
    #25035491 - 03/03/18 08:34 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Shrooms4life said:
I look towards your progress brother man, keep us posted.




Thanks, I'll keep the thread updated as much as possible

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Have you thought about using shoeboxes? https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24038695/fpart/1/vc/1




I have used small bins/trays without lids similar to the size of shoe boxes inside a small green house. However the limited height bothers me, I like to leave at least 8" in height if I have a lid on. You just gave me an idea though, I have a mini shoe box tub thats about 5" in height, I'll do a rez effect style tub without any holes and just fan and mist when necessary, I'll use 1-1.5" sub depth and using 1:1 parts verm/spawn. I'll make sure to post the results.  :hehehe: 

I also have a couple small 20qt tubs that I will be using very soon, I am just waiting to decide if I will do the classic monotub style with 1-2" holes on the sides of the tub or a shotgun/monotub style.




You could dub them, once they're ready to fruit you just throw another tub on top, no holes or anything as they arent air tight so they get plenty of fae. I havent tried it as im working on my first grow, but its what I am going to be doing once my rye is colonized. Good luck man :cheers:


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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: Luckydevi13]
    #25035497 - 03/03/18 08:38 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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You could dub them, once they're ready to fruit you just throw another tub on top, no holes or anything as they arent air tight so they get plenty of fae.




Never thought of that, that would actually work out well if the tubs are the same size. Will be trying that. Good luck with your grow  :rockon:

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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: grow4fun]
    #25035508 - 03/03/18 08:46 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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You could dub them, once they're ready to fruit you just throw another tub on top, no holes or anything as they arent air tight so they get plenty of fae.




Never thought of that, that would actually work out well if the tubs are the same size. Will be trying that. Good luck with your grow  :rockon:




I thought so, everyone in that thread was having awesome yeilds and that way you dont have so many eggs in one basket.thanks alot, you too! :cheers:


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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: Luckydevi13]
    #25041323 - 03/05/18 06:55 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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I thought so, everyone in that thread was having awesome yeilds and that way you dont have so many eggs in one basket.thanks alot, you too! :cheers:



I'm going to be spawning them in an hour or so inside those 6QT shoeboxes. Thanks for the idea brother. :cool:

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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: grow4fun]
    #25041335 - 03/05/18 07:01 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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I thought so, everyone in that thread was having awesome yeilds and that way you dont have so many eggs in one basket.thanks alot, you too! :cheers:



I'm going to be spawning them in an hour or so inside those 6QT shoeboxes. Thanks for the idea brother. :cool:



Noice, I'll be checking back in tonight then

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    #25041350 - 03/05/18 07:07 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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I then pressure cooked for 90 minutes at a minimum 15PSI, innoc'd using a :facepalm: Mazapatec MS strain.



Just giving you a heads up...edit needed. Rule #3

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    #25041361 - 03/05/18 07:11 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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I then pressure cooked for 90 minutes at a minimum 15PSI, innoc'd using a :facepalm: Mazapatec MS strain.



Just giving you a heads up...edit needed. Rule #3

Also Mazatapec is a variety not a strain.



I gotchu, thanks for the heads up.

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    #25041366 - 03/05/18 07:14 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

No problem...otherwise lookin' good :popcorn:


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    #25041367 - 03/05/18 07:14 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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I thought so, everyone in that thread was having awesome yeilds and that way you dont have so many eggs in one basket.thanks alot, you too! :cheers:



I'm going to be spawning them in an hour or so inside those 6QT shoeboxes. Thanks for the idea brother. :cool:



Beauty! Stoked to see how she goes! :thumbup:


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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: Luckydevi13]
    #25041601 - 03/05/18 08:59 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Everything is spawned and is now colonizing, hopefully these mini tubs will shorten the colonization time by a lot. Waiting sucks. :hehehe:

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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: grow4fun]
    #25042466 - 03/06/18 09:23 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Everything is spawned and is now colonizing, hopefully these mini tubs will shorten the colonization time by a lot. Waiting sucks. :hehehe:



Nice!  Hopefully its short and sweet! Itll give me a rough timeline as well. :cheers:


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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: Luckydevi13]
    #25044792 - 03/07/18 08:56 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Everything is spawned and is now colonizing, hopefully these mini tubs will shorten the colonization time by a lot. Waiting sucks. :hehehe:



Nice!  Hopefully its short and sweet! Itll give me a rough timeline as well. :cheers:



It's been less than two days and it's already about 25% colonized, going to say maybe five more days before it's ready to fruit. :biggrin:

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    #25044801 - 03/07/18 09:03 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Hell yah man post up some pics.

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    #25044850 - 03/07/18 09:33 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Hell yah man post up some pics.









Sorry for bad quality. For being spawned not even two days ago all 5 tubs are colonizing very aggressively. I think I'll manage an oz dried for each tub 1st flush. I'll probably dub 2 or 3 of them and leave the rest with the lid on to compare results.

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    #25044858 - 03/07/18 09:37 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

:snoopyes:
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    #25046126 - 03/07/18 02:41 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

"These unique cubes can be selectively bred until these unique traits become common, even via multispore inoculation. This new, unique cube may be marketed as a new 'Strain' but it is really just a unique 'Variety' of cubensis spawned from its original race. Still, many vendors market each unique variety as a new 'Strain'. In general, every single commercially available cubensis 'RACE', is actually a domesticated VARIETY of the original specimen. Domesticated cubes contain intentionally limited genetics in order to increase the likelyhood of achieving the desired results, sort of like dog domestication and subsequent breeding." ~  Strains, Varieties, Species

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    #25046956 - 03/07/18 06:02 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Everything is spawned and is now colonizing, hopefully these mini tubs will shorten the colonization time by a lot. Waiting sucks. :hehehe:



Nice!  Hopefully its short and sweet! Itll give me a rough timeline as well. :cheers:



It's been less than two days and it's already about 25% colonized, going to say maybe five more days before it's ready to fruit. :biggrin:



Shit yea!! Cant wait to do my shoeboxes!! :rockon:


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    #25047082 - 03/07/18 06:48 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Everything is spawned and is now colonizing, hopefully these mini tubs will shorten the colonization time by a lot. Waiting sucks. :hehehe:



Nice!  Hopefully its short and sweet! Itll give me a rough timeline as well. :cheers:



It's been less than two days and it's already about 25% colonized, going to say maybe five more days before it's ready to fruit. :biggrin:




Hell yez!! Cant wait to start my shoeboxes!! :rockon:


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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: Luckydevi13]
    #25047308 - 03/07/18 08:19 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Everything is spawned and is now colonizing, hopefully these mini tubs will shorten the colonization time by a lot. Waiting sucks. :hehehe:



Nice!  Hopefully its short and sweet! Itll give me a rough timeline as well. :cheers:



It's been less than two days and it's already about 25% colonized, going to say maybe five more days before it's ready to fruit. :biggrin:




Hell yez!! Cant wait to start my shoeboxes!! :rockon:




Crumble your cakes to make more spawn then add it with some verm or coir/verm and spawn to shoebox, I'm interested to see the results of how that would turn out. :eek:

I think I might do that. Best thing about these tubs is that's easy to experiment with because it's so small.

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    #25047374 - 03/07/18 08:45 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

Yea ill crumble 2 into a shoebox for sure, should I do 1 cake per shoebox or 2? Id do all of them but I want to be safe to make at least 1 print, then ill be experimenting alot more, and if they work out in the shoeboxes,  and I dont see why they wouldn't,  then.. idk..fuckin sweet lol. Still waiting on my rye to show any signs :/ I inoculated march 3rd so its not a biggie, just was hoping for a bit of myc this morning. :cheers:


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Re: An introduction and grow log [Re: Luckydevi13]
    #25047411 - 03/07/18 09:02 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Yea ill crumble 2 into a shoebox for sure, should I do 1 cake per shoebox or 2? Id do all of them but I want to be safe to make at least 1 print, then ill be experimenting alot more, and if they work out in the shoeboxes,  and I dont see why they wouldn't,  then.. idk..fuckin sweet I suppose lol. Still waiting on my rye to show any signs :/ I inoculated march 3rd so its not a biggie, just was hoping for a bit of myc this morning. :cheers:




Each are 1 pint right? maybe try one jar just to see how much one can yield and how many flushes. I really want to see that idea happen lol. I think I'm going to experiment with brf again strictly for these tubs of course.

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    #25047423 - 03/07/18 09:08 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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Yea ill crumble 2 into a shoebox for sure, should I do 1 cake per shoebox or 2? Id do all of them but I want to be safe to make at least 1 print, then ill be experimenting alot more, and if they work out in the shoeboxes,  and I dont see why they wouldn't,  then.. idk..fuckin sweet I suppose lol. Still waiting on my rye to show any signs :/ I inoculated march 3rd so its not a biggie, just was hoping for a bit of myc this morning. :cheers:




Each are 1 pint right? maybe try one jar just to see how much one can yield and how many flushes. I really want to see that idea happen lol. I think I'm going to experiment with brf again strictly for these tubs of course.



No, my brf are 1/2 pints, and yea, im so stoked that all 4 are turning out nicely as my first grow! Maybe ill do both in 1 if my rye turns out. 50th post!! Now I can rate and be rated! Booyaw!
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    #25047433 - 03/07/18 09:12 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

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No, my brf are 1/2 pints, and yea, im so stoked that all 4 are turning out nicely as my first grow! Maybe ill do both in 1 if my rye turns out. 50th post!! Now I can rate and be rated! Booyaw!
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Okay I'd do 2 cakes into 1 box, 1:1 or 1:2 ratio. I'm going to try this out soon, I really want to see what it can do. 50th post & ratings congrats, forgot about that, I'm gonna start using that haha.

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No, my brf are 1/2 pints, and yea, im so stoked that all 4 are turning out nicely as my first grow! Maybe ill do both in 1 if my rye turns out. 50th post!! Now I can rate and be rated! Booyaw!
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Okay I'd do 2 cakes into 1 box, 1:1 or 1:2 ratio. I'm going to try this out soon, I really want to see what it can do. 50th post & ratings congrats, forgot about that, I'm gonna start using that haha.



Yea brother! Ill probably do 1:2 ratio, just so its a little less maintenance as im gone at work 13 hours a day. My wife is a boss and would help, but id rather it be all me baby lol


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No, my brf are 1/2 pints, and yea, im so stoked that all 4 are turning out nicely as my first grow! Maybe ill do both in 1 if my rye turns out. 50th post!! Now I can rate and be rated! Booyaw!
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Okay I'd do 2 cakes into 1 box, 1:1 or 1:2 ratio. I'm going to try this out soon, I really want to see what it can do. 50th post & ratings congrats, forgot about that, I'm gonna start using that haha.



Yea brother! Ill probably do 1:2 ratio, just so its a little less maintenance as im gone at work 13 hours a day. My wife is a boss and would help, but id rather it be all me baby lol




Nothing better than a chick who's on your side about your projects. Dying to see this brf crumbled and spawned into a 6qt tub. I'll be waiting on grow log. If not I'll be doing one for sure :cheers:

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Yea shes cool, not interested in enjoying the fruits of our labor, but finds it neat lol, and tolerates my head in shroomery all day long lol. And yes I will definitely be doing a grow log with those, I've yet to see a post on how they do in the 6qt's. Stoked man, the rate they are going it shouldn't be long. Do I let them do their one week consolidation?  Im stoked to see how this grow log flourishes!  25% in 2 days bro! I figure youll get your oz each first flush. Fingers crossed.


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Yea shes cool, not interested in enjoying the fruits of our labor, but finds it neat lol, and tolerates my head in shroomery all day long lol. And yes I will definitely be doing a grow log with those, I've yet to see a post on how they do in the 6qt's. Stoked man, the rate they are going it shouldn't be long. Do I let them do their one week consolidation?  Im stoked to see how this grow log flourishes!  25% in 2 days bro! I figure youll get your oz each first flush. Fingers crossed.




Everyone would enjoy this hobby if they actually seen it done. It's awesome and rewarding. BRF colonizes very fast 1-2 weeks with MS as grains can take up to 2-4 weeks for me with MS. As far as I can tell this tiny 6qt colonizes fast with regular grain spawn, it may be sooner than 5 days. So to combine the brf and these small tubs, makes from inoculation to fruiting in a very short time which is very appealing to me. I think it would be a fun project and beneficial for cloning and taking prints and just experimenting with different substrates and ratios. I sometimes leave them for a week if I don't want to use them just yet or if I am waiting on other jars to colonize to spawn them together, I have left them longer but they begin to shrink after a while due to loss of moisture. Once my grain is colonized I'll wait a day or two then spawn.

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Yea shes cool, not interested in enjoying the fruits of our labor, but finds it neat lol, and tolerates my head in shroomery all day long lol. And yes I will definitely be doing a grow log with those, I've yet to see a post on how they do in the 6qt's. Stoked man, the rate they are going it shouldn't be long. Do I let them do their one week consolidation?  Im stoked to see how this grow log flourishes!  25% in 2 days bro! I figure youll get your oz each first flush. Fingers crossed.




Everyone would enjoy this hobby if they actually seen it done. It's awesome and rewarding. BRF colonizes very fast 1-2 weeks with MS as grains can take up to 2-4 weeks for me with MS. As far as I can tell this tiny 6qt colonizes fast with regular grain spawn, it may be sooner than 5 days. So to combine the brf and these small tubs, makes from inoculation to fruiting in a very short time which is very appealing to me. I think it would be a fun project and beneficial for cloning and taking prints and just experimenting with different substrates and ratios. I sometimes leave them for a week if I don't want to use them just yet or if I am waiting on other jars to colonize to spawn them together, I have left them longer but they begin to shrink after a while due to loss of moisture. Once my grain is colonized I'll wait a day or two then spawn.



I agree, I just stumbled across it on youtube one day and was instantly interested. And yea I agree, if a person can get a good yeild from such a simple and fast spawn then hell yes! Would be nice if you could to like g2g but with brf if you got rid of the dry verm layer.. could you? Like have proper filters and ships and take a sliver of your cake and drop it into another sterile brf mix? U know what I mean?


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I agree, I just stumbled across it on youtube one day and was instantly interested. And yea I agree, if a person can get a good yeid from such a simple and fast spawn then hell yes! Would be nice if you could to like g2g but with brf if you got rid of the dry verm layer.. could you? Like have proper filters and ships and take a sliver of your cake and drop it into another sterile brf mix? U know what I mean?




Yes of course, I said you should do that. As long as you're sterile and using a nicely built SAB you'll be fine. Follow this amazing guide.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1300760

That guide may be 15 years old but it's one of my favorites for being how simple yet beneficial it is. I'll be making brf quart jars (hopefully 1-2wk colonization) and then just crumbling them into a bag like so then spawning to these 6qt tubs with coir/verm or peat/verm or even just verm.

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I agree, I just stumbled across it on youtube one day and was instantly interested. And yea I agree, if a person can get a good yeid from such a simple and fast spawn then hell yes! Would be nice if you could to like g2g but with brf if you got rid of the dry verm layer.. could you? Like have proper filters and ships and take a sliver of your cake and drop it into another sterile brf mix? U know what I mean?




Yes of course, I said you should do that. As long as your sterile and using a nicely built SAB you'll be fine. Follow this amazing guide.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1300760

That guide may be 15 years old but it's one of my favorites for being how simple yet beneficial it is. I'll be make brf quart jars (hopefully 1-2wk colonization) and then just crumbling them into a bag like so then spawning to these 6qt tubs with coir/verm or peat/verm or even just verm.



Well thats awesome! I knew about the bags, I guess its virtually the same thing just much bigger. Awesome! Ive read that brf are more lacking in potency compared to more nutritious grains? Or is that just if you spawn them as cakes?


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    #25047538 - 03/07/18 10:26 PM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I haven't done pf brf cakes in a long time. Cakes take more work ime, grains to a monotub is much more easier, less work, more rewarding. Haven't looked back since. However I've been seeing people crumble their cakes into tubs lately and now I want to give it a go in these tubs and see how they work. If it's faster than grains, I'll start using brf again, but I'll never replace grains with brf because grains are easy to prepare (throw your grain and water in a jar then PC). As for potency, ime, cakes are just as good as fruits from grains.

Edit: if you're asking if a pint of grains will produce more than a pint of b4f, I believe so however it depends on how they are prepared, inoculation, etc..

Man all this talk makes me wanna make a brf batch and do some brf transfers then spawn to some tubs.

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I haven't done pf brf cakes in a long time. Cakes take more work ime, grains to a monotub is much more easier, less work, more rewarding. Haven't looked back since. However I've been seeing people crumble their cakes into tubs lately and now I want to give it a go in these tubs and see how they work. If it's faster than grains, I'll start using brf again, but I'll never replace grains with brf because grains are easy to prepare (throw your grain and water in a jar then PC). As for potency, ime, cakes are just as good as fruits from grains.



Love that bag tek! And yea I suppose it probably is, just figured for the Impatient type cakes are quick to colonize. And thats good news about potency :rockon: cheers brother.  Ill be back to hijack your thread tomorrow lol jk.  Have a Good night. Thanks for all the info tonight and I look forward to seeing how far along your tubs get. :cheers:


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    #25048070 - 03/08/18 08:30 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

I mistakenly left my space heater on last night, for about 7-8hrs. I'm hoping I didn't do any damage to my tubs or jars. Trying to lower temps right now however temps could  have been high as 85-100f last night. I notice on the sides nearest to the heater have no condensation. A little worried I might have done some damage.

Heres some pics after two 1/2 days. They colonized much more last night however, still thinking some damage has been done. Anyone have anything to say about high temps?






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    #25048092 - 03/08/18 08:48 AM (6 years, 10 months ago)

If it accidentally got hot for 8hours it probably didn’t do much damage. Keep in mind cubes in the wild are prone to warm conditions so I day or two of increased temps isn’t gonna hurt them. I would just do a little misting maintenance because the subs may have dried out a little, but other than that I’d keep on doing what you’re doing...no fear no worries :thumbup:


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If it accidentally got hot for 8hours it probably didn’t do much damage. Keep in mind cubes in the wild are prone to warm conditions so I day or two of increased temps isn’t gonna hurt them. I would just do a little misting maintenance because the subs may have dried out a little, but other than that I’d keep on doing what you’re doing...no fear no worries :thumbup:




Thanks for fast reply, even though they are colonizing, should I open them up and just mist the walls and substrate a bit? Probably use some cool water to do it.

Edit: Gave a little mist to each tub, should be fine now.

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I mistakenly left my space heater on last night, for about 7-8hrs. I'm hoping I didn't do any damage to my tubs or jars. Trying to lower temps right now however temps could  have been high as 85-100f last night. I notice on the sides nearest to the heater have no condensation. A little worried I might have done some damage.

Heres some pics after two 1/2 days. They colonized much more last night however, still thinking some damage has been done. Anyone have anything to say about high temps?









Damn that looks sweet!! Im sure they will be ok brother, not sure what the weather is in cambodia but im sure its hotter than 100f


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I mistakenly left my space heater on last night, for about 7-8hrs. I'm hoping I didn't do any damage to my tubs or jars. Trying to lower temps right now however temps could  have been high as 85-100f last night. I notice on the sides nearest to the heater have no condensation. A little worried I might have done some damage.

Heres some pics after two 1/2 days. They colonized much more last night however, still thinking some damage has been done. Anyone have anything to say about high temps?









Damn that looks sweet!! Im sure they will be ok brother, not sure what the weather is in cambodia but im sure its hotter than 100f



Yeah tubs are fine, more worried about the nearby jars that are just starting to colonize though. If it doesn't work out I'll toss em.

Tubs are still colonizing fast.

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Beauty,  im stoked about your shoeboxes! Hope your jars are ok, how long ago did you inoculate?


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Beauty,  im stoked about your shoeboxes! Hope your jars are ok, how long ago did you inoculate?



A week or so, just starting to show small growth now in a couple jars. Very slow, might be tossing them.  :undecided:

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It took less than a week to colonize these tubs. Putting them to work now. Will update when starting to pin.

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It took less than a week to colonize these tubs. Putting them to work now. Will update when starting to pin.



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I'm interested to see how the fruits look.  Compared to the other varieties I grow, I've grown Maz and the fruits were relatively small with very white stems and dark contrasting caps.  I wonder if these will look similar.

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No pins yet?


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No pins yet?



Yeah they are pinning, took 5-7 days from when introduced to fresh air. Pins are small right now, looks like it will be a decent pinset. Will take a picture probably tomorrow or the day after for a better look.


Edit: Actually here's a pic. Very small pins, but is still producing pins, should be a nice pinset.


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I'm interested to see how the fruits look.  Compared to the other varieties I grow, I've grown Maz and the fruits were relatively small with very white stems and dark contrasting caps.  I wonder if these will look similar.



I've never grown mazapatec, only GT, b+ and blue meanies, I'm used to very large fruits so I'm hoping for something good.

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Yeah they are pinning, took 5-7 days from when introduced to fresh air. Pins are small right now, looks like it will be a decent pinset. Will take a picture probably tomorrow or the day after for a better look.


Edit: Actually here's a pic. Very small pins, but is still producing pins, should be a nice pinset.





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Unfortunately I am getting very many side pins, so I will continue to use liners with these shoeboxes for now on.

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Are you just leaving the lid off, fanning or dubtubbing? Btw the sub in my box is acctually working well :baseballhandshake:


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Are you just leaving the lid off, fanning or dubtubbing? Btw the sub in my box is acctually working well :baseballhandshake:



I have 3 dubtub'd, 1 with the lid flipped and 1 with the lid on. All of them are producing large amounts of side pins. A liner must be used imo.

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Are you just leaving the lid off, fanning or dubtubbing? Btw the sub in my box is acctually working well :baseballhandshake:



I have 3 dubtub'd, 1 with the lid flipped and 1 with the lid on. All of them are producing large amounts of side pins. A liner must be used imo.



Awesome! All performing the same speed/quality so far? Yea I skipped using a liner as well :/ I will with my grains tho.


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Are you just leaving the lid off, fanning or dubtubbing? Btw the sub in my box is acctually working well :baseballhandshake:



I have 3 dubtub'd, 1 with the lid flipped and 1 with the lid on. All of them are producing large amounts of side pins. A liner must be used imo.



Awesome! All performing the same speed/quality so far? Yea I skipped using a liner as well :/ I will with my grains tho.




Everything colonized at the same time, some pinned late however. That's just MS though.

My 20qt tubs that are 1:3 cvg have colonized in 6 days, very impressed.

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Cool! Just was curious which method of fae was working best. That is awesome!  Im stll waiting on my grains to finish colonizing its been since the 3rd.


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Cool! Just was curious which method of fae was working best. That is awesome!  Im stll waiting on my grains to finish colonizing its been since the 3rd.



Grains typically take longer especially MS. As of right now leaving the lid on is better as it keeps moisture and humidity, which means less misting, also moving the tub around when the lid is flipped is a bitch because it always slides around, even dubbing them. I am thinking of taping one side for a makeshift latch. I also have been running a fan once a day so it blows air around toward the tubs to create FA.

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    #25083568 - 03/22/18 09:29 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Cool! Just was curious which method of fae was working best. That is awesome!  Im stll waiting on my grains to finish colonizing its been since the 3rd.



Grains typically take longer especially MS. As of right now leaving the lid on is better as it keeps moisture and humidity, which means less misting, also moving the tub around when the lid is flipped is a bitch because it always slides around, even dubbing them. I am thinking of taping one side for a makeshift latch. I also have been running a fan once a day so it blows air around toward the tubs to create FA.



Yea ill wait till its fully colonized before I worry about FAE.and yea that is a  bitch ay. Ill keep tbat in mind when I dub.


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    #25087124 - 03/24/18 12:24 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Just an update, lots of pins on each tub.






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    #25087805 - 03/24/18 06:18 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Nice!!!


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It's looking like all the fruits are going to turn out very small, oh well.

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It's looking like all the fruits are going to turn out very small, oh well.



Silver lining...Small Fruits typically means super potent :super:


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Go big or go home imo. But fruits are fruits so I'll accept them for how they are.

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    #25097224 - 03/28/18 12:54 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Another update



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Awesome job! My brf shoebox has a pin point of green on the side :/ what do I do?


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Awesome job! My brf shoebox has a pin point of green on the side :/ what do I do?



Not quite sure, you might be able to take it out to avoid further contamination. Do a search on here for help, not quite sure. I wouldn't throw it out, might still fruit, just isolate the grow from others.

Sucks but it happens.

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Awesome job! My brf shoebox has a pin point of green on the side :/ what do I do?



Not quite sure, you might be able to take it out to avoid further contamination. Do a search on here for help, not quite sure. I wouldn't throw it out, might still fruit, just isolate the grow from others.

Sucks but it happens.




Yea thats what I did, cheers man. Glad yours is looking sweet tho! Hopefully I get some fruits but I guess thats the beauty of shoeboxes,  ill only be losing 2 cakes.


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    #25104318 - 03/31/18 11:37 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Harvested and dried all 5 tubs to 93g, little disappointed. I will be only doing 2 flushes then tossing. I flipped the substrate and will dunk them very soon.

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Hell yea!  Nice work! :baseballhandshake:


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    #25154858 - 04/21/18 08:54 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Been away for a bit, I am now onto 4th flush with all 5 of these tubs. Will provide pictures soon. Each flush has bigger fruits.

56g 2nd flush, 56g 3rd flush. About to start 4th.

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