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CapnZ
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First time with grain water agar
#24230329 - 04/09/17 01:00 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Saved a liter of grain water from my last oats boil and this will be the first time I use grain water to make agar. I'm going with:
150 ml grain water 350 ml distilled water 20 grams MEA
Sound good? I'm interested to see how this goes....
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hamloaf
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Re: First time with grain water agar [Re: CapnZ]
#24230332 - 04/09/17 01:01 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Do 10 grams of agar. 20 grams is for 1000 litres of water. The rest sounds good.
EDIT: hope you mean agar, not MEA. The grain soak water will supply the myclium with all it's nutritional needs.
Edited by hamloaf (04/09/17 01:08 PM)
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CapnZ
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Re: First time with grain water agar [Re: hamloaf]
#24230361 - 04/09/17 01:13 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
hamloaf said: Do 10 grams of agar. 20 grams is for 1000 litres of water. The rest sounds good.
EDIT: hope you mean agar, not MEA. The grain soak water will supply the myclium with all it's nutritional needs.
Got it. Thanks!
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jimbob1865
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Re: First time with grain water agar [Re: CapnZ]
#24521613 - 07/31/17 09:34 PM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Very helpful ratios! will try this recipe with a set of pastyplates.
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Machiavelliavore
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Re: First time with grain water agar [Re: jimbob1865]
#24521901 - 08/01/17 01:02 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I haven't cared for the results I've gotten with pure grainwater agar. If you have premix agar powder that's 50/50 Malt Extract/Agar then that recipe makes sense. Else not.
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Re: First time with grain water agar [Re: CapnZ]
#24793231 - 11/19/17 08:54 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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any news how this one went?
i just saved some oats water for some pasty plates and was wondering if this 150ml:350ml oat water to distilled water ratio sounds alright.
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Re: First time with grain water agar [Re: pablokabute]
#24793241 - 11/19/17 08:59 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do 500ml oat water plus 10g agar and call it a day
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stareatclouds
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Re: First time with grain water agar [Re: bodhisatta]
#25016747 - 02/23/18 05:51 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I assume endospores on grain surfaces are washed off during the soak and populate the water. If we're freezing for later, I assume immediate sterilization isn't necessary since the cold halts germination and we'll sterilize prior to usage. Correct if wrong.
And should I filter it for excess gypsum or whatever other shit?
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Re: First time with grain water agar [Re: bodhisatta]
#25028785 - 02/28/18 01:30 PM (6 years, 30 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I do 500ml oat water plus 10g agar and call it a day
I'm doing this tonight with sorghum water, nice red water after being cooked.
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Re: First time with grain water agar [Re: bodhisatta]
#25032964 - 03/02/18 08:01 AM (6 years, 28 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I do 500ml oat water plus 10g agar and call it a day
I am going this route after a failed attempt of potatoe flake agar. How long can the unused oat water agar be stored in fridge for future use?
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Re: First time with grain water agar [Re: bodhisatta]
#27510436 - 10/19/21 04:37 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I do 500ml oat water plus 10g agar and call it a day
Hey Bod, Just wondering how you filter your grain water. Mine has so much sediment, it wont go through a coffee filter. If you decant it and leave the shit behind, does it have enough nutrition?
Also, this is a 4yr thread.....
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Re: First time with grain water agar [Re: pinehurst]
#27510447 - 10/19/21 04:48 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude just thin it out as much you can.
Too low nutrition is a very low number with mycelium. Basically it doesn't exist in practice.
LCs and and agar are temporary in nature, shroomery growers run lcs down to 1% and it still produces a boatload of mycelium.
If you are bothered by sediment, use water to thin it out.
If it has any visible colour from the nutrition at all it still probably has nutrition. (Grain water)
As starches from grain are water soluble.
Low nutrition helps the mushroom grower when he's working with something he's not planning to fruit for weight, and to his advantage when he wants to take tissue from mycelium, because low nutrition makes the mycelium move faster.
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Edited by smalltalk_canceled (10/19/21 04:54 PM)
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