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bassam
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Please identity: edible or not?

#25031333 - 03/01/18 10:04 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I found a wild mushroom sp. in my garden.

Habitat: Grown under long weeds in old compost ( straw + horse manure) about 10 cm compost thick over reddish clay soil.

Gills: purple

Stem: purple

Cap: purple to brown

Bruising: no color observed

General location: Middle East, Jordan (country), Amman (city).

Spore print: Light beige

Please identify it and let me know if this mushroom edible or not.

Thanks.

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jcrshroomer
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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

[Re: bassam]
#25031360 - 03/01/18 10:21 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Kinda looks like a cortinarius sp. I’d advise not to ingest and wait for a trusted identifier to chime in

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25031363 - 03/01/18 10:23 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Also I highly recommend using aluminum foil for spore prints as all spore colors show up well some of the lighter prints can be tough to see on white paper

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Byrain

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

[Re: bassam]
#25031371 - 03/01/18 10:25 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

You have blewits, something like Clitocybe nuda, but I would not expect that specific name to apply to collections from Jordan.

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25031372 - 03/01/18 10:25 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Lepista sp., looks close to L. nuda.

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Doc9151
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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25031375 - 03/01/18 10:28 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I think it's a cortinarious species, if you can leave the cap gills down on a piece of foil or white paper (foil works good for all spore colors) for 6-8hrs in order to get a better spore print. Pink or pinkish print is lepista nuda or a rusty colored print will be cortinarious.

Cortinarious is poisonous and lepista nuda is edible. If you will post a better spore print it would help.

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25031381 - 03/01/18 10:31 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

That was my first impression as well Anglerfish, I just wanted confirmation with a better spore print.

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Byrain

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25031401 - 03/01/18 10:38 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Doc9151 said:
I think it's a cortinarious species, if you can leave the cap gills down on a piece of foil or white paper (foil works good for all spore colors) for 6-8hrs in order to get a better spore print. Pink or pinkish print is lepista nuda or a rusty colored print will be cortinarious.

Cortinarious is poisonous and lepista nuda is edible. If you will post a better spore print it would help.

I don't think its Cortinarius and even if it was, chances are it would not be poisonous. Only a few Cortinarius species are poisonous where most are just hard to identify and have unknown edibility while likely being edible.

Also to not confuse the OP.

Clitocybe nuda = Lepista nuda

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25031425 - 03/01/18 10:49 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Tks Byrain

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25031958 - 03/01/18 02:50 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

This is definetly L. nuda. Same taxon as in Jordan

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karode13
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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25032720 - 03/02/18 04:11 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Agree with Lepista sp. as well.

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bassam
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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25032742 - 03/02/18 05:07 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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jcrshroomer said:
Also I highly recommend using aluminum foil for spore prints as all spore colors show up well some of the lighter prints can be tough to see on white paper

SPORE PRINTS ON ALUMINUM FOIL.
So, is it edible or not, please?

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bassam
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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25032744 - 03/02/18 05:09 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Aleks.T said:
This is definetly L. nuda. Same taxon as in Jordan

Is it 100% safe to eat?

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bassam
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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25032748 - 03/02/18 05:13 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Doc9151 said:
I think it's a cortinarious species, if you can leave the cap gills down on a piece of foil or white paper (foil works good for all spore colors) for 6-8hrs in order to get a better spore print. Pink or pinkish print is lepista nuda or a rusty colored print will be cortinarious.

Cortinarious is poisonous and lepista nuda is edible. If you will post a better spore print it would help.

spore print on aluminum foil didn't give any pinkish or rusty color. It gave white color.

What do you think the sp.?

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25032832 - 03/02/18 06:34 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

It should be fine to eat. It's eaten all over the world. I haven't heard of anyone eating this from Jordan, but we don't have many posters from there.

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/clitocybe_nuda.html

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25032980 - 03/02/18 08:17 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

My understanding that this is a species complex and DNA work will not support that there is only one taxon.. Collections here in CA at least do not seem to be all the same as European collections.

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25033076 - 03/02/18 09:13 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

karode13 said:
It should be fine to eat. It's eaten all over the world. I haven't heard of anyone eating this from Jordan, but we don't have many posters from there.

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/clitocybe_nuda.html

Not cause an issue but Nuda should have a pinkish print, idk if it’s just my screen but that print looks mighty white, and with nuda having pinkish spores I have to slightly disagree on the consensus here

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25033081 - 03/02/18 09:15 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with Byrain, this requires further DNA studies.

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25033122 - 03/02/18 09:34 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

jcrshroomer said:
Quote:

karode13 said:
It should be fine to eat. It's eaten all over the world. I haven't heard of anyone eating this from Jordan, but we don't have many posters from there.

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/clitocybe_nuda.html

Not cause an issue but Nuda should have a pinkish print, idk if it’s just my screen but that print looks mighty white, and with nuda having pinkish spores I have to slightly disagree on the consensus here

There is also what is known as pale pinkish print, I believe that is what this is, natural light will show it better. Look at the 2nd spore print pic on the left side and you will see pinkish hues.

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Edited by Doc9151 (03/02/18 09:38 AM)

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25033135 - 03/02/18 09:42 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I’m seeing the pink now my bad my screen wasn’t showing the subtle hues

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25033172 - 03/02/18 09:57 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Doc9151 said:
Quote:

jcrshroomer said:
Quote:

karode13 said:
It should be fine to eat. It's eaten all over the world. I haven't heard of anyone eating this from Jordan, but we don't have many posters from there.

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/clitocybe_nuda.html

Not cause an issue but Nuda should have a pinkish print, idk if it’s just my screen but that print looks mighty white, and with nuda having pinkish spores I have to slightly disagree on the consensus here

There is also what is known as pale pinkish print, I believe that is what this is, natural light will show it better. Look at the 2nd spore print pic on the left side and you will see pinkish hues.

In the real print, I don't see pinkish color . The pinkish color in 2nd pic may be a reflection due to foil. All prints are white.

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25033247 - 03/02/18 10:22 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Hmmmm

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25033297 - 03/02/18 10:41 AM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Im from Jordan. i found the same mushroom in my garden and i ate a small bite from it felt really sick that day. Never forgot that purple color

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bassam
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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25033757 - 03/02/18 02:04 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mth_satan said:
Im from Jordan. i found the same mushroom in my garden and i ate a small bite from it felt really sick that day. Never forgot that purple color

Quote:

mth_satan said:
Im from Jordan. i found the same mushroom in my garden and i ate a small bite from it felt really sick that day. Never forgot that purple color

Thank you mth_satan.

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bassam
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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25033817 - 03/02/18 02:34 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mth_satan said:
Im from Jordan. i found the same mushroom in my garden and i ate a small bite from it felt really sick that day. Never forgot that purple color

I know that there are some poisonous purple color mushrooms sp.
Are you sure about the sp. you have eaten is the same of my pics?

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25033874 - 03/02/18 02:56 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mth_satan said:
Im from Jordan. i found the same mushroom in my garden and i ate a small bite from it felt really sick that day. Never forgot that purple color

Did you cooked the mushroom before eating?

Wood Blewit
Lepista nuda
BLEWITS MUST ALWAYS BE COOKED BEFORE EATING OR THEY WILL MAKE YOU ILL
According to " http://www.wildmushroomsonline.co.uk/Identifying-Edible-Mushrooms-The-Wood-Blewit/index.php "

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25033882 - 03/02/18 02:59 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

L. nuda can vary in spore color but it always has a slight pink tone. If you want to study the color more efficienly on species where the exact nuance is important (this is one case, Russulaceae is another), use a razor and make a small pile. It may or may not be split into different species but the current taxon is the same, until someone chooses to rattle it out.

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Re: Please identity: edible or not?

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#25034166 - 03/02/18 05:28 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you Aleks, so do we all agree with Lepista Nuda species (Clitocybe nuda)?

Mth_satan, you could have eaten cortinarious species, they can look similar.

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