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Drake Silverthorn
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Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality?
#25029541 - 02/28/18 05:53 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey all,
Drake again. I am very new. 2nd post on here. I have B+ Psilocybe Cubensis spores. I was wondering could these ever turn into A or A+ spores if cultivated correctly? Can they ever improve or how does one make mushrooms be A or A+ quality?
Thanks for your time guys, and helping me get to grips with this all 
Drake
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puff4200
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No if you start with b+ spores thats the best you can expect, more than likely you'll end up with c. Could be worse though you could have gotten f+ or z strain.
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: puff4200]
#25029588 - 02/28/18 06:19 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Traded spores with this guy, got z-. Geez.
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Drake Silverthorn
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: NosmoKing]
#25029621 - 02/28/18 06:38 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks Puff. Hopefully I can make the B+ Spores become B+ Shrooms. With any luck.
Which guy NosmoKing? That's terrible getting z spores. I'm gonna try get A+ Spores next.
What is the fundamental difference between say A+ and A, and between A and B+? Are Z shit ones?
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The Mycologist
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B+ is not a rating its a name. AA are albino
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Lmao these guys are fuckin around.
B+ is just a name and means nothing about size or potency.
Multi spore is multispore.
Unless you mean albino or penis envy.
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: impatientguy] 1
#25029652 - 02/28/18 06:53 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lmao. Spot the newbie eh? XD please allow for exhibit a for expressing how much of a newbie I actually am hahaha. Cool. So B+ is basically just the name of a type of spore I bought then? Cool. I intend to begin soon. I just need to get some cash together and buy my own equipment to getting the kit ready.
A quick question about that - monotubs... is that basically just a plastic tub or does it have something specific about it? I'm feeling the method where you put it into that. Read a very detailed and great beginners guide on the forum. Very step by step kinda one. There seems to be so much to it. It said one of those can produce an 8oz grow!!! That seems incredible!!!
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I'm growing some B+ RN
A monotub is a plastic tote with 4 to 8 holes loosely stuffed with polyfill during fruiting.
One and a quarter inch to one and one half inch holes, usually.
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: puff4200]
#25029675 - 02/28/18 07:01 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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puff4200 said: No if you start with b+ spores thats the best you can expect, more than likely you'll end up with c. Could be worse though you could have gotten f+ or z strain.

Follow the teks here and you'll end up with A+ shrooms everytime. 
You can google all the different varieties homie! 
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: BattyKoda] 3
#25029680 - 02/28/18 07:03 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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This thread gets an A++
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: impatientguy]
#25029682 - 02/28/18 07:04 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Drake Silverthorn
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Thanks Snakeye and Tormato. I like this community. It's quite daunting when you know fuck all about it. It seems like an overwhelming process but I believe giving it your best shot, checking the videos and asking and taking the advice on here is the best way for A++ results XD :P hehe.
I am grateful for all the replies. You guys are fucking awesome!! XD
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You'll do fine dude! 
Their is never a stupid question homie!
Just one tip on the videos...
WILLY MYCO IS THE DEVIL!
Rodger rabbit has some awesome videos. Bodhisatta has some too.
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: BattyKoda] 1
#25029746 - 02/28/18 07:22 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm fairly new at cultivation and was wondering what the fuck was going on.
I was like, does this dude think B+ is a rating? Wait a minute....is it? LMAO
Glad I wasn't wrong on that one.
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: SighLowSighBeen]
#25029816 - 02/28/18 07:43 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why is Willy Myco the devil?
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: Tormato]
#25029826 - 02/28/18 07:45 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tormato said: This thread gets an A++ 
This thread gets a AA+
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: puff4200] 1
#25029854 - 02/28/18 07:58 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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puff4200 said:
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Tormato said: This thread gets an A++ 
This thread gets a AA+
I created my own variety!
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: SpiralsAhead] 1
#25029858 - 02/28/18 08:00 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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SpiralsAhead said: Why is Willy Myco the devil?
Because that’s what momma said! OHHHHHHHH! But seriously, he’s not very accepted around these parts.
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: Tormato]
#25030547 - 02/28/18 11:35 PM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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He’s been banned on YouTube ya know, that’s badass
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: Tormato]
#25030704 - 03/01/18 02:08 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Tormato said:
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SpiralsAhead said: Why is Willy Myco the devil?
Because that’s what momma said! OHHHHHHHH! But seriously, he’s not very accepted around these parts.
Why is Willy Myco not very accepted?
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: Pe666funky]
#25030718 - 03/01/18 02:47 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh wow! Willy Myco does sound badass! Lol. I am prone to gullibility here as already proved at the start so I dunno if he's a real person or not. Lol
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its a variety. also, its not B plus (B+). Its pronounced B Positive
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: Pe666funky] 1
#25030729 - 03/01/18 03:02 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pe666funky said: Why is Willy Myco not very accepted?
Cause he's not really that good.
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: Ziran]
#25030747 - 03/01/18 03:23 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hahahaha. Thanks hero of time for clearing alot of that up XD
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: Ziran]
#25030758 - 03/01/18 03:28 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everyone who has videos on psychedelics has gotten targeted lately. Willie ain't bad for getting an eye on how things work, but I would never do anything he said unless it lined up with a reputable tek from here. The let's grow mushrooms videos on YouTube, and Bod's easy af teks, are the best things I've found. The LGM video shows you how things are supposed to be done, and once you have an understanding of that, Bod's teks show you where you save time and cut corners without compromising sterility or yields.
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: boom boom]
#25030770 - 03/01/18 03:32 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hell yeah boom boom. That's amazing and very informative. Just at work but will check these out properly tonight. Thanks again
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did you just walk out the rabbit hole? B positive (as its pronounced) is not a rating but its proper name. lmao NOOOOOOOOBBBBBB
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: Pe666funky] 3
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Pe666funky said:
Quote:
Tormato said:
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SpiralsAhead said: Why is Willy Myco the devil?
Because that’s what momma said! OHHHHHHHH! But seriously, he’s not very accepted around these parts.
Why is Willy Myco not very accepted?
Here's my take...Willy Myco versus The Shroomery would be like going to your neighbor who has some experience in first aid to treat an illness versus going to the university hospital where they have a team of doctors, nurses, lab techs, decades of experience and history to help. Not saying that Willy doesn't know some things about mushroom growing because obviously he has some success in his own right, but he is just one guy...The Shroomery is a mecca of trusted cultivators, mycologists, scientists, and hobbyists that have spent years upon years establishing their craft and who are also not looking to make a buck off their knowledge. Everyone here is freely giving out priceless information for those that are serious about becoming a cultivator. You can take Willy Myco's word and run with it or you can get a more advanced, in depth view of how the pros really do things here at The Shroomery! 
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: Tormato]
#25030988 - 03/01/18 07:27 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Great explanation Tormato!! Well said. Thanks for the explanation.
Lmao. Nconn, aside from mentioning about 10 million times I'm a noob, I have created 2 posts and asking very inexperienced questions XD hahaha. So yes indeed, super noob. King of the noobs XD hahaha
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: Ziran]
#25031092 - 03/01/18 08:30 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Myconetic said: He’s been banned on YouTube ya know, that’s badass
I got cat skipin skool 1 tyme. 
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Ziran said: its a variety. also, its not B plus (B+). Its pronounced B Positive
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: BattyKoda] 1
#25031167 - 03/01/18 09:16 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can't resist. Willy Myco does shit plain wrong. I watched him take spore prints in open air under a running ceiling fan, while talking forever about how important cleanliness and keeping contams out is. Fuckin dense.
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: LtLurker]
#25031317 - 03/01/18 10:54 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have a lot of wee specific, nitpicking kinda questions - but they're relevant to the grow I wish to yield:
1) The monotub, does it need to have clips on top to secure, will it matter, will it help?
2) Does it matter the amount of space in said monotub? 50L, 60L, 80L?
3) If I got a pressure cooker, would I be able to use it for other actual food, or only keep it for the mushrooms?
4) When you have your finished mushrooms, do you chop them up or eat them whole? lmao. I've never even done mushrooms so i literally have no clue
5) If I wanted to store them once they're made, whats the best way?
That's all I can think of thanks for your help in advance
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To get you goin.
1) No mono xp 2) " 3) Your mush stuff will be in jars or bags, wash it out like normal and you can do food just fine. 4) After they dry; Just chompin down whole is good. Can also cut up for tea or lemon tek, some grind into powder. 5) At 100% dry, a jar is good for long time. Baggies can work to. I like to stick a food desiccant pouch in mine for piece of mind. Keep at normal temps, NO Fridge.
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Re: Can B+ quality improve to A or A+ quality? [Re: LtLurker]
#25031431 - 03/01/18 11:53 AM (2 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why is Willy Myco not very accepted?
Here's my take...Willy Myco versus The Shroomery would be like going to your neighbor who has some experience in first aid to treat an illness versus going to the university hospital where they have a team of doctors, nurses, lab techs, decades of experience and history to help. Not saying that Willy doesn't know some things about mushroom growing because obviously he has some success in his own right, but he is just one guy...The Shroomery is a mecca of trusted cultivators, mycologists, scientists, and hobbyists that have spent years upon years establishing their craft and who are also not looking to make a buck off their knowledge. Everyone here is freely giving out priceless information for those that are serious about becoming a cultivator. You can take Willy Myco's word and run with it or you can get a more advanced, in depth view of how the pros really do things here at The Shroomery! 

Yes ok I agree and yes well put, Tomato. Honestly I was expecting to see Willy Myco having some kind of presence here in the forums, exchanging information and learning, etc.... if he is putting out outdated info and not staying in communication with others in the same field, then I am now less trusting of his information. He has though at least sparked an interest in cultivation for a lot of people including me. Which I think is great!!! Searching his vids brought me to RR's vids (which i purchased immediately and from there I was able to find the Shroomery and i'm glad for it. This place is indeed a vault of knowledge!!!!
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