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OfflineMurkabm
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Using psilocybin as a nootropic
    #24858573 - 12/20/17 06:19 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

I have tried them all .. And psilocybin is the best nootropic ive ever used ! It also increases endurance in sports ! Anyone else agree ?

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Re: Using psilocybin as a nootropic [Re: Murkabm]
    #24858670 - 12/20/17 06:58 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

What dose and frequency are you talking about?


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Re: Using psilocybin as a nootropic [Re: Murkabm]
    #24978113 - 02/09/18 07:34 AM (6 years, 22 days ago)

I can't say that mushrooms help me with energy that I have noticed, but yes, they are my favorite nootropic substance.

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Re: Using psilocybin as a nootropic [Re: Murkabm] * 1
    #24978383 - 02/09/18 10:35 AM (6 years, 21 days ago)

Yes absolutely. Hour 5 and 6 of a 3 gram psilocybin mushroom dose is the most powerful nootropic I've ever experienced.

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Re: Using psilocybin as a nootropic [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #24978445 - 02/09/18 11:09 AM (6 years, 21 days ago)

I'd maybe put them behind LSD, LSD gives me more energy, focus, and less confusion and mind fuck. Often times on mushrooms I'll get tired even.

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Yes absolutely. Hour 5 and 6 of a 3 gram psilocybin mushroom dose is the most powerful nootropic I've ever experienced.




I definitely agree with this, however you also have to experience the exact opposite which occurs between hours 1-4 lol.

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Re: Using psilocybin as a nootropic [Re: krypto2000]
    #24978858 - 02/09/18 02:48 PM (6 years, 21 days ago)

I'm gonna go against the grain and say that I am less productive and have less energy on psilocybin and even more so on LSD. I've tried various amounts ranging between 0.12-0.04g (psilocybe subaeruginosa) and I do find the lower doses closer to what I'm chasing, but still not what I'd consider a positive effect.
Even on smaller doses I tend to feel spaced out, lacking focus, get distracted easily and feel a bit restless. I do believe this has a lot to do with the type of work I'm trying to do, (cognitive/sciencey/lots of data and research papers). I think if I needed more free thinking and creativity, it might work a bit better.

I do have one exception to this...during a time last year when life was getting the better of me and I was having some mild depressive tendencies, I dropped about 0.1g and felt a huge wave of motivation and positivity. So my hypothesis is that maybe it's more effective for me when I'm lacking in positive/happy brain neurotransmitters, and less effective when everything is closer to 'normal'.


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Re: Using psilocybin as a nootropic [Re: Rock1084]
    #24978938 - 02/09/18 03:29 PM (6 years, 21 days ago)

Just harvested yesterday and had 5g fresh just to sample and had a really intense workout with a buddy. I never usually push myself like that!


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Re: Using psilocybin as a nootropic [Re: Murkabm] * 1
    #24978963 - 02/09/18 03:43 PM (6 years, 21 days ago)

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JizzMasterZero said:
What dose and frequency are you talking about?






I'm genuinely curious what sort of regimen the OP works with as well...

....but I don't expect we'll get an answer, this fella posts these threads somewhat often (literally makes the same threads over and over and over again) and rarely ever makes dialog or responds to other posts in the thread.



Don't expect a reply......but you can definitely expect to the OP to make this same exact thread, or one just like it, within the next few weeks.







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Re: Using psilocybin as a nootropic [Re: openmind]
    #25020589 - 02/25/18 11:19 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

Has anyone experimented with psilocybin and nootropic supplements either herbal or synthetic. I know microdosing has been gaining more media attention lately, but I often wonder if it would be potentiated in a nootropic stack. I'm about to do an experiment involving mushrooms, ashwagandha, rhodiola rosea, eleuthero, and schisandra. I want to see the effects of various combinations. I'll try and do a write up as well, but has anyone tried any similar experiments?

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Re: Using psilocybin as a nootropic [Re: Johngreer170]
    #25020660 - 02/25/18 11:52 AM (6 years, 5 days ago)

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Has anyone experimented with psilocybin and nootropic supplements either herbal or synthetic. I know microdosing has been gaining more media attention lately, but I often wonder if it would be potentiated in a nootropic stack. I'm about to do an experiment involving mushrooms, ashwagandha, rhodiola rosea, eleuthero, and schisandra. I want to see the effects of various combinations. I'll try and do a write up as well, but has anyone tried any similar experiments?



I really just don't like the idea of most supplements. Many of the asian herbal/medicinal ones are grown in areas with tons of pollution and toxic soil. The FDA doesn't even look at them, there's no way to know if what you're getting is safe, or even what it's supposed to be.

Most supplements that actually work are altering brain chemistry to unnatural levels as they're typically extracts much higher in the actives than any edible version would be. As the name suggests, they're "supplementing" certain neurotransmitters or altering natural processes. Same with any drug, if you use them regularly your chemistry will change to adapt to the new external influx. I've seen very little evidence of long-term benefits from the majority of supplements, especially these new "nootropics". From personal experience, I've tried a few that actually had effects(ashwagandha, rhodiola, maca, etc) and end up going back to baseline or lower after stopping. The "x days on x days off" is probably the best way of using most of them, but I don't see much of a point. I found results to be temporary and tolerance to build extremely quick, but obviously every substance/person is different. I think many of them have their uses is specific cases, but on their own or even in combination won't help much long term used daily, and may even have negative consequences we don't know about.

Lion's mane is one that's genuinely interesting. It's a fairly common edible mushroom, and has been shown to increase neurogenesis. Hopefully more research is done on it, but I certainly could see it pairing synergistically with psilocybin. No clue as to what an optimal dosage/frequency would look like though.

I do often make a mushroom tea with several types of medicinal mushrooms(lion's mane, cordyceps, reishi, and others) and mix it with psilocybin honey, I've done micro doses up to .5g. Seems a lot more clear headed and "warmer" of a mental state than psilocybin alone, but every psilocybin experience is different in itself so I don't know how much can actually be attributed to the supplements.

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Re: Using psilocybin as a nootropic [Re: feevers]
    #25021260 - 02/25/18 04:09 PM (6 years, 5 days ago)

I agree, a lot of these supplements are sketchy at best. I've considered lions mane supplementation but I have only selected supplements with numerous scientific research journals backing the claims of benefits. Lions mane had a few scientific studies done but none that supported what people claimed it did for them. So if I try that I want to grow my own so I don't have to spend tons of money on some mysterious powder from some company that may or may not be pure lions mane. For this test I order all the herbs to be tested as whole or chopped roots so that I can at least visually confirm they are what I order.

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