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legnic
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First time growing , need help! 1
#25020039 - 02/25/18 04:49 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi guys, im growing Psilocybe Cubensis ,,Amazonas,, first time , im doing it by PF TEK method, now im in stage when i have my cake in aquarium and the mushrooms are growing, the cake didnt have pins for long time so i used the shock method in fridge for night, then i put the cake into the aquarium and pins started to show and later the mushrooms from them , now i have a problem that i quite dont know when to harvest them up if are they ok or in which stadium they are or how much light they need. Im trying to have temperature between 21-24 C all the time in room and also im chaning the oxygen every day and refil water if needed. any advice is welcome. https://ibb.co/eNDT3H https://ibb.co/kGOT3H https://ibb.co/hht6qx
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: legnic]
#25020059 - 02/25/18 05:09 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Harvest right when the veil beneath the cap breaks. If you want to take spore prints let the caps open a little.
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elasticaltiger
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Also those mushrooms are not getting enough fresh air, that's why it looks all fuzzy, and the ones on the bottom are saturated with water put them on a square of foil or something.
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legnic
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Ty for advice, i have plastic cover over the aquarium r and there is not getting air in or little air into it, im just refreshing the air once per day with newspaper wawing, so should i uncover it more or just do the waving more often per day? and one more question, that big one he should be that big and so white? and the small one https://ibb.co/eNDT3H on this picture the one who is on North of the cake he didint grow for like 2weeks, what shoudl i do about him?
Edited by legnic (02/25/18 06:54 AM)
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elasticaltiger
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: legnic]
#25020168 - 02/25/18 07:04 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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The reason they look kind of weird is because of the two things I mentioned fresh air and water saturation.
Is that water on the bottom being changed out frequently? Standing water is a breeding ground for bacteria which can also make your shrooms grow weird.
Since you only have an aquarium I'd say your best option is to fan it multiple times a day. Once isn't enough. They need constant fresh air coming in which is why we usually fruit in plastic tubs that we drill holes in.
You could try cracking the lid off center just a bit. Kinda rotate it clockwise so that there is just an inch of open space on each side. That might get you some better air flow.
Because the cakes have been sitting in that standing water I would not expect much more from them.
Notice how the fuz on the big shrooms is really fluffy white? That's from fresh air problems.
Notice how the fuz on the little bottom shrooms is scraggly? That's from over saturation.
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Edited by elasticaltiger (02/25/18 07:05 AM)
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: legnic]
#25020230 - 02/25/18 08:06 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whoa, thats wild. Never seen that much mycelium around a shroom before. Looks like snow cover!
Best thing to do is build a proper SGFC. They give all the fresh air exchange u need. Pumps are outdated and not used anymore as the FAE is not high enough for shrooms.
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legnic
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Ty pity that i didnt come here sooner, i changed the water completly,i put paper foil under the cake, i dont have glas lit on that aquarium , i used plastic foil like you use to pack food in, so i make a new one and let some space for air there, the old little mushroom that was dried fall down should i keep him or throw him out? and i noticed that on the botom of cake there is a mushroom growing too:D , so the big one is done or can it stil be safed by time or its better just to harvest him, or all of them and just hope for better next flush? 2/3 small ones at the botoom look quite ok tho
Edited by legnic (02/25/18 08:40 AM)
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: legnic]
#25020271 - 02/25/18 08:42 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would harvest all of them and hope for a better flush.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber
The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it
Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.
"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT
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Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen
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legnic
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Ok gona wait day or two if they dont fix themselves and if not im gona harvest them. Ty for all help
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legnic
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Hey man, 3days passed, i try to fix what you told me, i pluged the big one one , and let the other 3there , now after 3 days what do you say about them? are they better ? ty
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: legnic]
#25028596 - 02/28/18 11:48 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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that chamber tho its soaking in there. whats goin on?? where did you find that tek?
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legnic
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: mushboy]
#25028622 - 02/28/18 12:06 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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idk, i bough spores online from our country eshop (central europe) there was a guide for it : PF tek method its called, and this is how it should be i gues but maybe less water? this is guide for it: http://www.kouzelnehouby.cz/pftek.pdf but i gues u wont understand the language but pictures at least
Edited by legnic (02/28/18 12:13 PM)
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: legnic]
#25028639 - 02/28/18 12:17 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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pf tek iron curtain style. ...that write up is really, really old.
better pf tek
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: mushboy]
#25028652 - 02/28/18 12:24 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Holy shit I wonder if that is where dumbass's come up with hydroponic shrooms lol.... Anyway OP I'd listen to what these guys said, they've helped me out a time or two I'm sure
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legnic
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: mushboy]
#25028653 - 02/28/18 12:25 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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ye i see quite updated from mine, and diferrent, gota used that for future cakes, but what about this one? now i got rid of all water that was sitting there , i put new paper under it and its not soaked as last time, now they are not directly touchign the water , wil it help can they grow normaly and stil be eatable?
Edited by legnic (02/28/18 12:26 PM)
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legnic
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: legnic]
#25030872 - 03/01/18 04:27 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok so i harvested them today, the legs started to get blue colour on the botom so i harvested just the top of the mushrooms, but im wondering if its safe to eat them if they had that hairy legs and not enough fae and oversaturated, the parts which i took and dried look fine but im not sure if they are not contamined or smt , is that possible? ty
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: legnic]
#25030874 - 03/01/18 04:30 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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That terrirum is a hot mess. U need to switch to a SGFC.
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: mushboy]
#25030894 - 03/01/18 04:55 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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haha... no way its legit
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nconn32986
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: legnic]
#25030897 - 03/01/18 04:58 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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you need to stop everything... and read all you can about fruiting, since it seems you managed to colonize a cake (cakes?) well. The one you are using can not be "fixed". Period!! you need something that ventilates constantly. There is so much info on this site alone. Spend the 14$ itll cost for the materials and do it the right way!
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Re: First time growing , need help! [Re: nconn32986]
#25030911 - 03/01/18 05:10 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
LogicaL Chaos said: That terrirum is a hot mess. U need to switch to a SGFC.

that chamber sucks.
Build one of these
SGFC
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