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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24975396 - 02/07/18 10:38 PM (6 years, 15 days ago)

Yeah, but I really appreciate the explanation. Thanks!  :borfase:


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: BlueNinja]
    #25009216 - 02/20/18 08:03 PM (6 years, 3 days ago)

Thanks for the Tek, and thanks in general to all who help out here. I've been reading lots and messing around a bit too.

I did everything as stated in the first post except I used corn starch instead of potato flakes. It's what I had on hand...

They're in the PC right now. I'll find out later this week how they work out. I use an instant pot for my PC. It has worked exceptionally well for my wbsf cakes.

This is my foray into agar. I'm cautiously optimistic.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Zeus37]
    #25015906 - 02/23/18 12:20 PM (6 years, 8 hours ago)



Anyone have experience with these? The lids don't have a pp5 logo on them, and I saw someone in the thread earlier recommended ball jars with kerr plastic lids. These ball lids feel kinda flimsy so I don't know. I'm gonna test one to see if it melts in the PC before I try some agar work, but if anyone knows for sure from experience whether or not they work it'd save me some time and a mess.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: volkerball]
    #25015927 - 02/23/18 12:28 PM (6 years, 8 hours ago)

They're autoclaveable. Those mason jars are for canning purposes which are meant to be pressure cooked.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25015938 - 02/23/18 12:33 PM (6 years, 7 hours ago)

Yeah those mason jars will work fine and you don't have to drill a hole in the lids because they are made to be pressure cooked.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #25015953 - 02/23/18 12:40 PM (6 years, 7 hours ago)

Cool, thanks guys.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: volkerball]
    #25016068 - 02/23/18 01:30 PM (6 years, 6 hours ago)

Do the plastic lids not form a vacuum like the metal ones? I've seen a few use them as-is for agar, but figured they were leaving loose in the PC.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25016102 - 02/23/18 01:40 PM (6 years, 6 hours ago)

People have had successful results just by backing the lid off a little bit while in the PC, then tightening them as you unload them, so that's what I'm trying.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: volkerball]
    #25016613 - 02/23/18 04:49 PM (6 years, 3 hours ago)

I've used this exact package of jars many times. They were at Target on sale. These specific jars are nice, too, because they don't have all that decor you get on the larger packsβ€”easier to see inside.

And yes, just loosen 1/4" or so. Then tighten outside of PC.


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25016765 - 02/23/18 06:00 PM (6 years, 2 hours ago)

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Do the plastic lids not form a vacuum like the metal ones? I've seen a few use them as-is for agar, but figured they were leaving loose in the PC.



They rarely come with a seal but they will vaccume on and warp making them near impossile to remove if you don't back them off


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #25028828 - 02/28/18 01:47 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

How many lbs of pressure when pressure cooking the mini rounds?  Thanks...


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Mz_Cybin] * 1
    #25028859 - 02/28/18 01:59 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

fifteen pounds per square inch. :vibin:


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Mz_Cybin]
    #25028999 - 02/28/18 02:08 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

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How many lbs of pressure when pressure cooking the mini rounds?  Thanks...




103421.359 pascals


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #25029630 - 02/28/18 05:42 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I followed these directions for my first Agar usage. I bought the glad mini rounds as stated. I filled them with my Agar mixture about the same as the pitcures. THEN SNAPPED THE CAPS ON, with the micro pore tap. wrapped them in tin foil. Then I PC'd them for 40 mins at 15 PSI.I also didnt bring them up to temp blazing fast, it took about 20 or more mins to get to a boil, then build pressure. I waited about 5 hours and everything was pretty cool. nothing was close to being hot.

So when I put them in my SAB and unwrapped these bad boys I noticed the caps didnt snap on or off any longer, Its like they were just suggly on top, they didnt seal any more, like they changed shape. what happened? did I use to much PSI when I pressure cooked them? im very disappointed as I wanted to start my process today.
I still took about 7 of them and put a drop from my syringe on them just to see what happens. But i know they arnt sealed correctly and need to know what I did wrong, so I can make new ones.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: beerface]
    #25029776 - 02/28/18 06:30 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

You did nothing wrong. That is expected and preferred. Trust me, you'll learn to love it


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25029781 - 02/28/18 06:32 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Ya, having to snap them off creates micro-gusts of air, or at least my paranoia tells me that. I prefer the ones that can simply lift off, they allow steadier hand movements while working within your still air box.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: beerface]
    #25030123 - 02/28/18 08:37 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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I followed these directions for my first Agar usage. I bought the glad mini rounds as stated. I filled them with my Agar mixture about the same as the pitcures. THEN SNAPPED THE CAPS ON, with the micro pore tap. wrapped them in tin foil. Then I PC'd them for 40 mins at 15 PSI.I also didnt bring them up to temp blazing fast, it took about 20 or more mins to get to a boil, then build pressure. I waited about 5 hours and everything was pretty cool. nothing was close to being hot.

So when I put them in my SAB and unwrapped these bad boys I noticed the caps didnt snap on or off any longer, Its like they were just suggly on top, they didnt seal any more, like they changed shape. what happened? did I use to much PSI when I pressure cooked them? im very disappointed as I wanted to start my process today.
I still took about 7 of them and put a drop from my syringe on them just to see what happens. But i know they arnt sealed correctly and need to know what I did wrong, so I can make new ones.



20 mins @15 is long enough. If you add dung go 25-30min.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: Doc9151]
    #25030131 - 02/28/18 08:43 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

20 sounds risky. 35 - 45 minutes at 17 psi has been working great for me w/ a 12 minute vent.


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Re: Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek [Re: JHOVA]
    #25030139 - 02/28/18 08:47 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I let mine cool in the pc until its ready


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Re: Pasty Agar Tek [Re: Doc9151]
    #25031112 - 03/01/18 07:45 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

Do you guys fill your rounds a little extra to compensate for boil off, or does the level stay pretty much the same throughout the pressure cooking?


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