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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: musiclover420]
#25028837 - 02/28/18 01:49 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Huh look at this news today:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-asking-what-trump-knew-about-hacked-emails-n851941
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Special counsel Robert Mueller's team is asking witnesses pointed questions about whether Donald Trump was aware that Democratic emails had been stolen before that was publicly known, and whether he was involved in their strategic release, according to multiple people familiar with the probe.
Mueller's investigators have asked witnesses whether Trump was aware of plans for WikiLeaks to publish the emails. They have also asked about the relationship between GOP operative Roger Stone and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, and why Trump took policy positions favorable to Russia.
in one line of questioning, investigators have focused on Trump's public comments in July 2016 asking Russia to find emails that were deleted by his then-opponent Hillary Clinton from a private server she maintained while secretary of state. The comments came at a news conference on July 27, 2016, just days after WikiLeaks began publishing the Democratic National Committee emails. "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump said.
Witnesses have been asked whether Trump himself knew then that Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta, whose emails were released several months later, had already been targeted. They were also asked if Trump was advised to make the statement about Clinton's emails from someone outside his campaign, and if the witnesses had reason to believe Trump tried to coordinate the release of the DNC emails to do the most damage to Clinton, the people familiar with the matter said.
The White House spokesman at the time, Sean Spicer, would later say that then-candidate Trump had been "joking" when he called on Russia to hack his opponent's emails.
Investigators are also asking questions about Trump's longtime relationship with Stone, the Republican operative, according to witnesses. Investigators have asked about Stone's contacts with WikiLeaks during the campaign and if he's ever met with Assange.
"They wanted to see if there was a scheme. Was Stone working on the side for Trump?" after he officially left the campaign, one person interviewed by the special counsel's office said, adding that it seemed investigators wanted to know, "Was this a big plot?"
Russia stole emails from the DNC and Podesta, according to U.S. intelligence officials, and released batches of them through WikiLeaks starting in July 2016 and up until the election.
As part of his plea agreement with the special counsel, former Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos revealed that in a conversation in late April 2016, he was told by a professor with ties to Russian officials that they had "dirt' on Clinton in the form of "thousands of emails." A 10-page memo from Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee released Saturday noted that the Justice Department's October 2016 application for a FISA warrant on another Trump foreign policy adviser, Carter Page, included the fact that Russian agents had previewed their hack and dissemination of stolen emails to Papadopoulos.
Investigators were interested in statements Stone made in the final month of the 2016 campaign that strongly suggested he was aware of information the group had before it became public and when it might be released. In one instance, he wrote on Twitter that "it would soon be Podesta's time in the barrel." Weeks later Podesta's stolen emails were released by WikiLeaks.
As WikiLeaks was strategically publishing stolen emails in the closing months of the campaign, Trump also publicly said he loved the group. He mentioned WikiLeaks 145 times during the last month of the 2016 campaign. In 2017, President Trump's CIA director, Mike Pompeo, would label the group a hostile non-state actor.
Investigators also have shown interest in any connections Stone has to WikiLeaks and Assange, its founder. Stone has said he communicated with Assange and WikiLeaks through an intermediary he described as a journalist.
The Atlantic reported this week that Stone exchanged direct messages on Twitter with WikiLeaks.
Mueller's team has asked witnesses if Stone ever met with Assange. Stone has denied ever communicating directly with Assange.
At that same July 2016 news conference where he referenced Clinton's missing emails, candidate Trump said he was open to lifting sanctions on Russia and possibly recognizing its annexation of Crimea in Ukraine. The U.S. and its European allies had sanctioned Russia because of its intervention in Ukraine and annexation of Crimea, which the Obama administration refused to recognize.
Investigators have asked witnesses why Trump took policy positions that were friendly toward Russia and spoke positively about Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to people familiar with the probe.
Investigators have also inquired whether Trump met with Putin before becoming president, including if a meeting took place during Trump's 2013 visit to Moscow for his Miss Universe pageant. Trump has given conflicting responses on when he first met Putin.
At least one witness was asked about Trump's business interests in Moscow and surmised afterward that the special counsel investigation may be focused on business dealings that took place during the campaign.

Wouldn't surprise me if Trump tries to fire Mueller, again
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: musiclover420]
#25028855 - 02/28/18 01:57 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not downplaying anything. I'm simply telling you what the FBI said: "there is no evidence that the Trump campaign or current RNC were successfully hacked."
Except that you already admitted Russians at least got many older emails. So were they successfully hacked or not?
I simply repeated what the FBI told us. They said the Russians hacked older RNC emails, but there was no evidence they hacked Trump or current emails. 
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musiclover420 said: Also you realize sometimes people learn new info later that changes things, or downright lie or say misleading things right?...
Of course. All I'm saying is that they haven't found proof of Russia collusion yet. If they do, then so be it.
You do realize there isn't any evidence of Russian collusion yet, right?
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Do you trust CNN?
What does that have to do with anything?
You asked for evidence beyond Fox News, and I provided it. Why did you ask? It proves my point that that there's absolutely nothing "juicy" (your word) about Kushner "losing" his security clearance. Everyone who still has an interim clearance lost their top secret clearance, but should get it back once the permanent clearance is granted.
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musiclover420 said: Also I notice you still aren't backing up any of your claims with sources or facts...
I've backed up every claim you've asked me to back up. Which one(s) did you still need evidence for? I'll provide it. You can even tell me your favorite sources of news and I'll get it from them.
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musiclover420 said: CNN is not the only source reporting on this either so I really don't get what point you're trying to make...
My point is that you were WRONG to say that there's something "juicy" about Kushner losing his clearance. And you were wrong about everything I pointed out you were wrong about.
Again, if there's any more evidence you want me to provide, please let me know what that is. In most cases I just pointed out errors in your own statements.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: musiclover420]
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musiclover420 said: Huh look at this news today:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-asking-what-trump-knew-about-hacked-emails-n851941
What about it? It just says investigators are asking a lot of questions.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#25029175 - 02/28/18 02:16 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I simply repeated what the FBI told us. They said the Russians hacked older RNC emails, but not Trump or current emails. 
AKA the GOP was hacked too Also once again that is going off the current info at that time. Neither of us knows what has been uncovered since 
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You do realize there isn't any evidence of Russian collusion yet, right?
Clearly that is subjective. There is no hard evidence to 100% verify it but many of the signs are pointing towards at least a few people in Trump's administration working with the Russians.
All the stuff like this:
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As part of his plea agreement with the special counsel, former Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos revealed that in a conversation in late April 2016, he was told by a professor with ties to Russian officials that they had "dirt' on Clinton in the form of "thousands of emails." A 10-page memo from Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee released Saturday noted that the Justice Department's October 2016 application for a FISA warrant on another Trump foreign policy adviser, Carter Page, included the fact that Russian agents had previewed their hack and dissemination of stolen emails to Papadopoulos.
There's evidence of them talking with Russian contacts in private to get dirt on Hillary, then there was Trump basically telling russians to hack Hillary's emails on live TV:
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Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Then there's this Trump's tweet from when he was going to Moscow for a pagent, and was also considering a Moscow Trump Tower:
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Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant in November in Moscow - if so, will he become my new best friend?
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/347191326112112640
Clearly none of this verifies anything but the more pieces of the puzzle you put together the more damning of a picture it paints 
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You asked for evidence beyond Fox News, and I provided it.
What evidence? you posted a CNN link asking if I trusted CNN... What evidence does that provide?...
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It proves my point that that there's absolutely nothing "juicy" (your word) about Kushner "losing" his security clearance. Everyone who still has an interim clearance lost their top secret clearance, but should get it back once the permanent clearance is granted.
You once again completely are missing the point... The issue isn't that he lost clearance, it's that it took over a year of him not passing his background check meanwhile he was accessing more classified info then the entire white house... You don't see that as a red flag?...
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I've backed up every claim you've asked me to back up. Which one(s) did you still need evidence for? I'll provide it. You can even tell me your favorite sources of news and I'll get it from them.
Except you haven't. Care to provide some examples of some claims you backed up? I've seen you post maybe 1 link over the past few days of you denying everything 
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My point is that you were WRONG to say that there's something "juicy" about Kushner losing his clearance. And you were wrong about everything you posted.

You realize this isn't some 1 dimensional scandal right? There's more to that then him just losing his clearance.... You continue to overlook much of the facts.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#25029231 - 02/28/18 02:34 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mueller is gathering all the low hanging fruit and is methodically circling in of his prime target. Just because there isn't any evidence of collusion shown, doesn't mean he hasn't played that card yet. He has only release information, indictments, subpoenas, and verdicts that build his case for the next step.
He has most of the cards right now. He knows what happened and the fact that he continues his investigation means trump is in trouble. If this was a Nothing Burger he would know that by now and wouldn't be continuing the case. This is not the same as the persecution that the pubs tried on the Clintons. Mueller is working on the facts and nothing but the facts.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: sweeper54] 1
#25029269 - 02/28/18 02:44 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think the shit is about to hit the fan. Mueller is trying to pin down if trump knew the Russians were hacking the DNC before the hack was discovered.
I'd speculate there are going to be serious charges coming for some members of the adminstration and the remaining question is how involved in the conspiracy trump was. If I had to guesss, jared kunsher ia going to be arrested very soon.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: sweeper54]
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sweeper54 said: Mueller is gathering all the low hanging fruit and is methodically circling in of his prime target. Just because there isn't any evidence of collusion shown, doesn't mean he hasn't played that card yet. He has only release information, indictments, subpoenas, and verdicts that build his case for the next step.
He has most of the cards right now. He knows what happened and the fact that he continues his investigation means trump is in trouble. If this was a Nothing Burger he would know that by now and wouldn't be continuing the case. This is not the same as the persecution that the pubs tried on the Clintons. Mueller is working on the facts and nothing but the facts.
trump better be afraid
Quite likely the reason the FBI can't complete their investigation into kushers security clearance is because mueller has indicated that he is one of the main targets in this investigation, and he has the goods.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: koods] 1
#25029293 - 02/28/18 02:53 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hope hicks just resigned.
This is getting good
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: koods]
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I heard that exact report a couple days ago. ( about kush)
Now they just lost Hope Hicks, she's had enough, maybe a bit too late.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: musiclover420]
#25029330 - 02/28/18 03:12 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I simply repeated what the FBI told us. They said the Russians hacked older RNC emails, but not Trump or current emails. 
AKA the GOP was hacked too Also once again that is going off the current info at that time. Neither of us knows what has been uncovered since 
Exactly. Which disproves your statement that Wikileaks not releasing the RNC emails "seems pretty damning". There may not have been any emails on Trump.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: You do realize there isn't any evidence of Russian collusion yet, right?
Clearly that is subjective. There is no hard evidence to 100% verify it but many of the signs are pointing towards at least a few people in Trump's administration working with the Russians.
All the stuff like this:
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As part of his plea agreement with the special counsel, former Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos revealed that in a conversation in late April 2016, he was told by a professor with ties to Russian officials that they had "dirt' on Clinton in the form of "thousands of emails." A 10-page memo from Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee released Saturday noted that the Justice Department's October 2016 application for a FISA warrant on another Trump foreign policy adviser, Carter Page, included the fact that Russian agents had previewed their hack and dissemination of stolen emails to Papadopoulos.
That was a nothingburger. Addressed here.
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musiclover420 said: There's evidence of them talking with Russian contacts in private to get dirt on Hillary, then there was Trump basically telling russians to hack Hillary's emails on live TV:
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Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
Your sarcasm detector is obviously broken. 
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musiclover420 said: Then there's this Trump's tweet from when he was going to Moscow for a pagent, and was also considering a Moscow Trump Tower:
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Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant in November in Moscow - if so, will he become my new best friend?
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/347191326112112640
Clearly none of this verifies anything but the more pieces of the puzzle you put together the more damning of a picture it paints 
You're right none of it verifies anything and zero times any number is still zero.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: It proves my point that that there's absolutely nothing "juicy" (your word) about Kushner "losing" his security clearance. Everyone who still has an interim clearance lost their top secret clearance, but should get it back once the permanent clearance is granted.
You once again completely are missing the point... The issue isn't that he lost clearance, it's that it took over a year of him not passing his background check meanwhile he was accessing more classified info then the entire white house... You don't see that as a red flag?...
No, I see it as a new rule making things even more secure than they were before Trump.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I've backed up every claim you've asked me to back up. Which one(s) did you still need evidence for? I'll provide it. You can even tell me your favorite sources of news and I'll get it from them.
Except you haven't. Care to provide some examples of some claims you backed up? I've seen you post maybe 1 link over the past few days of you denying everything 
What do you want evidence of? Starting at the top of this thread, my first claim was "Page was never found guilty of any wrongdoing." Here's your evidence:
"Page has not been accused of or charged with anything in special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe."
What else do you want? It's kind of fun to keep proving myself right. 
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: My point is that you were WRONG to say that there's something "juicy" about Kushner losing his clearance. And you were wrong about everything you posted.
You realize this isn't some 1 dimensional scandal right? There's more to that then him just losing his clearance.... You continue to overlook much of the facts.
Of course I realize there's more to this than all the things you are wrong about. Now why don't you tell us what I've "overlooked".
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: sweeper54]
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Exactly. Which disproves your statement that Wikileaks not releasing the RNC emails "seems pretty damning". There may not have been any emails on Trump.
How does it do that exactly? "there may not" proves anything? 
Bye bye Hope Hicks as well:
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History of Trump W.H. communications directors:
Sean Spicer: January-March 2017
Mike Dubke: March-June 2017
Spicer: June-July 2017
Anthony Scaramucci: July 2017
Hope Hicks: August 2017-February 28, 2018*
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sweeper54 said: I heard that exact report a couple days ago. ( about kush)
Now they just lost Hope Hicks, she's had enough, maybe a bit too late.
Admitting that Trump is a pathological lier and that she has to lie for him repeatedly was the nail in her coffin.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Exactly. Which disproves your statement that Wikileaks not releasing the RNC emails "seems pretty damning". There may not have been any emails on Trump.
There probably weren't any. The Russian hacking campaign was specifically targeted at undermining clinton.
Wikileaks even sent Don Jr. A message asking him to "leak" trumps tax returns so that Wikileaks would appear to be not taking sides, whennin reality their whole effort along with the Russians was to help trump beat clinton.

Sessions refuses to get himself involved with this at all. He was so eager to recuse himself as well. He knows what really happened and that trump could be in serious trouble if there was a serious investigation. Recusal was the only way he could protect himself.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: koods]
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Exactly. Which disproves your statement that Wikileaks not releasing the RNC emails "seems pretty damning". There may not have been any emails on Trump.
There probably weren't any. The Russian hacking campaign was specifically targeted at undermining clinton.
Wikileaks even sent Don Jr. A message asking him to "leak" trumps tax returns so that Wikileaks would appear to be not taking sides, whennin reality their whole effort along with the Russians was to help trump beat clinton.
Very possible, they probably already had plenty of dirt on Trump and or the GOP. But I also wouldn't be surprised if they have been keeping tabs just to be safe.
That's part of why I think rather then hack the RNC to steal a bunch of info they would have tried to bug it or leave a back door.
This current administration seems to be doing nothing to prevent further hacks, which leads me to believe they either aren't personally worried or are even relying on more hacks...
Also here's a more complete list of former Trump admin staff:
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Trump Administration staff resigned or fired:
Gen Mike Flynn
Sally Yates, the acting attorney general
James Comey F.B.I. Director
Preet Bharara, US Attorney for the Southern District of Manhattan
Patrick Kennedy, undersecretary of state for management, and members of the State Department
Angella Reid, White House chief usher
Mike Dubke, White House communications director
Robert Iger, advisory council
Katie Walsh, deputy White House chief of staff
Derek Harvey, National Security Council
Walter Shaub, director of the Office of Government Ethics
Michael Short, White House press aide
Craig Deare, National Security Council senior director for Western Hemisphere affairs
K.T. MacFarland, deputy National Security Adviser
Rich Higgins, Director of Strategic Planning
Derek Harvey, Middle East adviser
Tera Dahl, Deputy Chief of Staff
Mark Corralo, the spokesman for President Donald Trump’s legal team,
Sean Spicer
Reince Priebus
Anthony Scaramucci
Ezra Cohen-Watnick intelligence directors of the National Security Council
Steve Bannon
Andy Hemmig-W.H. Rapid Response Director
Sebastian Gorka
William C. Bradford, head Energy Department's Office of Indian Energy
Keith Schiller, former Trump bodyguard, director of Oval Office operations
Chuck Rosenberg, acting head of the Drug Enforcement Administration
Tom Price, Secretary of Health and Human Services
Dana Boente, U.S. attorney for Eastern District of Virginia
Sam Clovis, withdraws from nomination for USDA Science chief
Omarosa Manigault
Dina Powell, deputy national security adviser
David Lapan, Department of Homeland Security press secretary
Paul Winfree, the deputy director of the White House Domestic Policy Council
Teresa Manning, Health and Human Services Department and antiabortion activist
Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Rachel L. Brand, associate attorney general Justice Department
Rob Porter, staff secretary
David Sorensen, Trump Speechwriter
George David Banks, special assistant to the president for international energy and environmental policy
Josh Raffel, Ivanka and Jared Kushner’s spokesman
Hope Hicks, White House communications director
https://www.brookings.edu/research/why-is-trumps-staff-turnover-higher-than-the-5-most-recent-presidents/
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So much for the "best" people
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: musiclover420] 2
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Trump refuses to do anything because he's afraid to accuse Putin of any transgressions. This goes far beyond wanting better relations with Russia. He acts like an abused spouse who won't press charges against his batterer, even though everyone around him says he's being beaten. He is the ultimate cuck.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: musiclover420]
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Patrick Kennedy was my friends boss at the State Department. He was fired over a year ago and they still haven't replaced him. They are still working on their obama era projects because there's no new leadership or directives coming from the trump administration. It's a total joke. This entire adminstration is a total charade.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: koods]
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koods said: Trump refuses to do anything because he's afraid to accuse Putin of any transgressions. This goes far beyond wanting better relations with Russia. He acts like an abused spouse who won't press charges against his batterer, even though everyone around him says he's being beaten. He is the ultimate cuck.
Trump reminds me of a college frat boy who is shunned by most groups, so he turns to his enemy as a last resort and "fuck you" to everyone who turned him down 
That could explain his wives as well, he seems to have to order them from overseas and bribe them And even then he's already on his 3rd wife and umpteenth affair...
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koods said: Patrick Kennedy was my friends boss at the State Department. He was fired over a year ago and they still haven't replaced him. They are still working on their obama era projects because there's no new leadership or directives coming from the trump administration. It's a total joke. This entire adminstration is a total charade.
Do they just not give a fuck? Or is there that big a void of people willing to work with them? Seems like a good way to ruin any chance of a decent career in politics 
I joked at the start of Trump's presidency that people will be omitting working under him on their resumes:
"Do you have any political experience"
"Yes, I worked for the president for awhile"
"Quite impressive, and which one would that be"
"Trump"
"Who?"
"It was Trump"
*crickets
"Don't call us, we'll call you" *interviewer snickers
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: musiclover420] 4
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# white lies matter
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: vinsue]
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The scariest part is a "white lie" is totally subjective.
For one, who is it "white" for? For Trump and his administration? Or for the American people? Either way it's not a good sign
Chances are she will get indicted in the next few weeks, then flip to avoid decades in prison and sing like a canary.
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Re: Special counsel Indicts 13 Russian nationals, 3 Russian entities in '16 election interference [Re: musiclover420] 2
#25029642 - 02/28/18 05:47 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Or she already has, she interviewed with Meuller back in December.
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