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Kforaday
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First time - are these pinning in the jar??
#24996631 - 02/15/18 02:37 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is my first attempt at growing, and using the PF Tek method. I inoculated about a month ago and checked them again today. Out of 10 jars, about 6 of them look they they needed more time because they were only colonized on part of the jar (only one side seemed to take so it is taking longer to get through the entire jar). But two of them look like they are trying to pin in the jar. Is that what I'm seeing? Should I dunk these two and put them in the shotgun chamber now and just put the others in there when they are ready?
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dont trust midgets
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: Kforaday]
#24996646 - 02/15/18 02:43 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would take those 2 out, dunk and roll, place in sgfc. Maybe pick some of those larger pins and eat em if you get hungry.
-------------------- Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
Edited by dont trust midgets (02/15/18 02:45 PM)
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: Kforaday]
#24996652 - 02/15/18 02:45 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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What he said. And just gently wipe the verm off ur pins after the roll. U could just leave it but ull have to clean it later anyway
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: nube424]
#24996659 - 02/15/18 02:49 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Idk if im not seeing it right but to me that second picture looks like it still has some colonizing to do. The pinning before full colonization could be due to a contamination like bacteria or something, and not being fully colonized after a month is also not a good sign.
You could wait and see if it finishes, or maybe try to birth it and cut off the uncolonized areas. However i have no experience with that so id wait for someone else to chime in first before doing that.
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24996664 - 02/15/18 02:50 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea hes right. Take the cakes out and rinse the uncolonized parts off under cool water. Then dunk and roll.
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Kforaday
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: nube424]
#24998827 - 02/16/18 01:40 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok, thanks. Maybe the reason they pinned in the jar is that they were not in complete darkness. I had them at a friend's house for the past week because her house is much warmer than mine and I think they were exposed to much more light over there.
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: Kforaday]
#24998869 - 02/16/18 02:02 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Na its usually always from a contam and usually bacteria
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Kforaday
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: nube424]
#24999240 - 02/16/18 04:48 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh, so should I cut those parts off? Toss the whole thing? Or is a contaminant/bacteria different from a competing fungi and therefore not going to hurt?
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nube424
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: Kforaday]
#24999270 - 02/16/18 05:02 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Bacteria is a specific type of contam. Its not really "bad" because it doesnt have spores that float thru the air and doesnt make ur fruits inedible.
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: nube424]
#24999303 - 02/16/18 05:19 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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The cakes are pinning because they are fully colonized not because of bacteria, spawn those or fruit them as cakes
Myc does not need light to produce pins either.
-------------------- Cakes inside Water Tub
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: nube424]
#24999315 - 02/16/18 05:23 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea ive fruited bacterial spawn before and still eaten the fruits. Bacteria is not like mold which pretty much ruins the spawn. In my experience, unless the bacteria is very severe, it usually just causes a less than ideal yield and sometimes some wierd looking fruits.
Also, the pinning is definitely not from too much light. All of my jars colonize with ambient light from the day i inoculate them.
You may be able to cut the contaminated part off, but like i said earlier i would wait for someone with more experience to chime in before you do that, or just search around the forum and im sure you can find all the info you need.
EDIT: Mateah: Does the cake in that second picture not look a little uncolonized to you? That spot at the top right looks a little suspect to me.
Edited by flyhighfunguy (02/16/18 05:26 PM)
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24999336 - 02/16/18 05:28 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you read the OP you will notice that the jars in the pics are the fully colonized ones and he is also talking about some others jars that are lagging a few days behind.
OP, just rinse them well after birthing under cold tap water, dunk them and place them inside the FC. If you want to enjoy many more fruits then don´t dunk and spawn them instead to a bulk substrate instead.
-------------------- Cakes inside Water Tub
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: Mateja]
#24999351 - 02/16/18 05:33 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh, i never saw him mention that they were fully colonized, just that they were "trying to pin in the jar".
Is this not considered uncolonized?
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24999360 - 02/16/18 05:35 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nah, that could be just vermiculite slipping down the sides, it´s normal. he says "about 6 of them look they they needed more time But two of them look like they are trying to pin in the jar" I see that as 6 jars not yet ready and two jars that started pinning already.
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: Mateja]
#24999366 - 02/16/18 05:38 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh alright that makes sense. I havent done cakes yet so i didnt realize verm slips down the side like that.
Kforaday - I guess disregard everything ive said lol. Hes got more experience than me so id go with his advise and birth the two that are ready.
Edited by flyhighfunguy (02/16/18 05:38 PM)
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: flyhighfunguy]
#24999384 - 02/16/18 05:44 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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-------------------- Cakes inside Water Tub
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: Mateja]
#24999417 - 02/16/18 05:57 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mateah said: I would do this to the cakes https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24945782
I second this
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: Mateja]
#25001132 - 02/17/18 11:29 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mateah said: If you read the OP you will notice that the jars in the pics are the fully colonized ones and he is also talking about some others jars that are lagging a few days behind.
OP, just rinse them well after birthing under cold tap water, dunk them and place them inside the FC. If you want to enjoy many more fruits then don´t dunk and spawn them instead to a bulk substrate instead.
Thanks for that advice! I went back and looked at the ones that I considered not fully colonized and to be honest, I think it's just the dry vermiculite that has fallen down the sides. Because the bottom of the jar looks all white.
I think I'm going to have to just dunk them today, roll them tomorrow, and put them in the FC because I don't have time to research the BRF to spawn method (I'll do that next time). This is my first time so I bought everything I need for PF Tek and did the research to where I think I understand the procedure.
That being said, I have to do it today because these guys are waiting on no one!! This picture is the same jar as the first pic and you can see they have gotten a lot bigger in just two days!
Edited by Kforaday (02/17/18 11:31 AM)
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: Kforaday]
#25001209 - 02/17/18 12:01 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Definitely want to birth those lol. Let us know how they turn out!
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Re: First time - are these pinning in the jar?? [Re: Mateja]
#25001727 - 02/17/18 05:03 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mateah said: Nah, that could be just vermiculite slipping down the sides, it´s normal. he says "about 6 of them look they they needed more time But two of them look like they are trying to pin in the jar" I see that as 6 jars not yet ready and two jars that started pinning already.
You were 100% correct. I decided to birth them all today and sure enough, they were fully colonized. I had one jar that did not colonize at all so I don't know if I somehow missed that one or it just didn't take for whatever reason. But 9 out of 10 jars on my first try is good enough for me!
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