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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: AyePlus]
    #24991642 - 02/13/18 05:22 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

Yes I know silly. :crazy2: I think I leaned how fungi breath in elementry school and if I've been here this long and still don't know how fungi breathe then I got issues that no amount of help from you guys is going to fix. I am definitely going to pump more oxygen in. The hepa is for the spores. I could start growing microgreens in there and see if they can grow without molding. They only take a few days and should help along with a fan.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Steevo]
    #24991679 - 02/13/18 05:37 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

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I shake the ever living shit out of mine. Right after I drop the wedge, at 30% then again at 100% to see how quickly it bounces back. If a piece sticks to the glass :shrug:




Shaking at 100% after a 30% shake seems more detrimental than beneficial, but to each their own.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
    #24991684 - 02/13/18 05:40 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

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I could start growing microgreens in there and see if they can grow without molding. They only take a few days and should help along with a fan.





I grow microgreens right on top of my monotubs so they can get the most light from the T5's.  As long as you've got a fan running, they should be good.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24991705 - 02/13/18 05:53 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

I shake my spawn at 100% too....if it's fully recovered in 48-72hrs it's clean enough for me to expand...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24991714 - 02/13/18 06:00 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

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I shake the ever living shit out of mine. Right after I drop the wedge, at 30% then again at 100% to see how quickly it bounces back. If a piece sticks to the glass :shrug:




Shaking at 100% after a 30% shake seems more detrimental than beneficial, but to each their own.



I completely agree...if something is questionable i might


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: cronicr]
    #24991719 - 02/13/18 06:01 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

I shake at 100% so i can spawn


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #24991721 - 02/13/18 06:02 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #24991750 - 02/13/18 06:14 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

Shit...so I'm waiting 2-3 days to spawn for no reason...from now on I won't shake test at 100% unless my spawn looks iffy


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
    #24991752 - 02/13/18 06:15 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

If spawn is iffy any sketchiness will be revealed at 30% shake.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
    #24991757 - 02/13/18 06:18 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

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I shake at 100% so i can spawn



Lol you smartass, they mean to check recovery times.
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I shake my spawn at 100% too....if it's fully recovered in 48-72hrs it's clean enough for me to expand...



I would say spawn anything after 48, I wouldn't g2g anything that takes 48 hrs


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: TheBlackCat]
    #24991768 - 02/13/18 06:23 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

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Yes I know silly. :crazy2: I think I leaned how fungi breath in elementry school and if I've been here this long and still don't know how fungi breathe then I got issues that no amount of help from you guys is going to fix. I am definitely going to pump more oxygen in. The hepa is for the spores. I could start growing microgreens in there and see if they can grow without molding. They only take a few days and should help along with a fan.



I’ve built lots of very discreet grow rooms, mostly for plants but the same principles apply,  best option in your case is probably a passive filtered intake from your house and a nice vent cover exhaust. 4” should be plenty big enough for your little greenie, Figure out the cubic footage and get a duct booster or inline fan that has a cfm at least that many cfm + 20% but better to get one 3-4 times that amount of cubic feet, better to oversize and hook it into an timer than have it running constantly. Make sure its a quiet one because those things can be loud AF. Hanging it from bungees or mounting on rubber feet can help.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #24991771 - 02/13/18 06:25 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

So I have heard people saying that you can fruit right after spawning so I thought I would try it to see how it goes. Do any of you guys fruit right after spawning? Here are a couple pics of shoeboxes 1 is WBS and I fruited it 2 days after spawning and the other is popcorn that I fruited 3 days after spawn. What you guys think?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Kyshroomer19xx]
    #24991782 - 02/13/18 06:27 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

It would be nice to see a little more colonization, but it could go places.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ChRnZN]
    #24991791 - 02/13/18 06:33 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

shoeboxes fruit at spawn unless you case after 100%.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: ChRnZN]
    #24991795 - 02/13/18 06:34 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

:whathesaid: with shoeboxes you don't really have an option. There's enough fae to induce fruiting with the lid snapped on


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24991831 - 02/13/18 06:53 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

Usually only takes about 36-40hrs...but II've g2g'd spawn that took two days to fully recover with no problems...out of of 76 jars I lost 1 case, due to hidden contam in 1 of my masters..that was all done in a SAB too


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #24991852 - 02/13/18 07:01 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

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bodhisatta said:
I shake at 100% so i can spawn



Lol you smartass, they mean to check recovery times.




He knows. He's saying it's silly to shake again at 100%. The purpose of a 30% shake is to spread out mycelium and potential molds/bacteria hiding somewhere. That way it'll stall out or go green or something to indicate it's not 100%. If you shake at 30% and it gets to 100%, you should be good to go. Shaking again is just putting the myc through extra unneeded stress. Y'all can do whatever, though, but you're just damaging the myc and adding extra days to your timeline.

Kyshroomer,

I fruit everything at spawning. I just give it a casing layer of my CVG on top and to fruiting conditions it goes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24991866 - 02/13/18 07:09 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

I also quit using jars when expanding...I'll have a qt master and g2g it into 3.25qt of sterilized grain in spawn bags.. 1 bag = spawn for 2 mini monotubs


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #24991873 - 02/13/18 07:12 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

I agree Stare, Star, whatevs. It doesn't really matter what we do after we spawn to tubs. They are going to fruit when they're ready. Imo


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa] * 1
    #24991888 - 02/13/18 07:18 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

There's certain varieties that would benefit from consolidation before fruiting, APE/PE being 2 of them. If I delay FC on APE, the myc seems to consolidate it's energy on fewer, but thicker fruits. Without it, APE pins everywhere and I get a million little blobs/aborts.



And for comparison, here's a comparison between the same tub at 2 different grows. One I fruited at spawning and the other I fruited at 100%. Both had 2 quarts of spawn and the "consolidated" tub only took 2 days longer from spawn > harvest.



Results:

Tub 1 FF: 386.79
Tub 2 FF: 316.40
Tub 1 SF: 526
Tub 2 SF: 341.77

While I'm sure those little tiny pins are still scattered under the layer of CVG, the average size difference among fruits is apparent. Hell, even my blind grandmother could see it! AND SHE'S DEAD! *laughs hysterically for 47 minutes*

For PE, there's still debate about what avoids blobs, but many still think consolidation is one of them. But yeah, overall, provide the right conditions for when fruiting time comes and it doesn't seem to matter much with cubes.


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