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The paradox of living in the moment
    #24991647 - 02/13/18 05:24 PM (9 months, 27 days ago)

Living in the moment is the goal I'm trying to pursue in my life.
But isn't this whole sentence a huge paradox?
I'm trying to master mindfulness in order to experience the benefits this discipline brings along.
And there again, the burden of expectations and heavily future-oriented mindset.

I'm stuck. Been thinking about this for the last few days, and can't get my head around it. How do you overcome this 'fault' in the process?


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Re: The paradox of living in the moment [Re: Eternal Quest] * 1
    #24997780 - 02/16/18 01:49 AM (9 months, 25 days ago)

Mindfulness and living in the moment are somewhat different things. Living in the moment is living without thought to consequence, while mindfulness is living with thought to all consequences, apparent and not.

I find, that like most things in life, a certain, personal, balance is the way to go.


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Re: The paradox of living in the moment [Re: Eternal Quest]
    #25004834 - 02/19/18 03:42 AM (9 months, 22 days ago)

If you can listen to this from about 25:00 on it might be useful, it might not; have nice day.


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Re: The paradox of living in the moment [Re: Eternal Quest]
    #25006758 - 02/19/18 11:38 PM (9 months, 21 days ago)

Living mindfully in the present is an activity, not a goal to try to reach.


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Re: The paradox of living in the moment [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #25006812 - 02/20/18 12:08 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

me personally, i don't understand how i am suppose to be mindful and live in the moment if I'm surrounded by physical pain and torment when I am living 'in the moment'

i can't win here lol


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Re: The paradox of living in the moment [Re: Parasyte]
    #25006837 - 02/20/18 12:19 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

By not adding to your experience with stories, exaggerations, and condemnations.

As humans, we tell ourselves wild outlandish stories of drama and mayhem.

By adding to our experience like this, we significantly increase our suffering.


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Re: The paradox of living in the moment [Re: Eternal Quest]
    #25007013 - 02/20/18 02:00 AM (9 months, 21 days ago)

You're supposed to respond to the things you think are dangerous without fear, unless it's a physical danger.. that means that most of the problems we face in modern times are psychological in origin and not of actual physical danger.

There's no point to living in the moment as I see it, it's just some new age voodoo crap to me. Being mindful of the present can be nice, but it can also be nice to think about the weekend, to think about the good times you had with someone, to think about how you'll finish a project, or what you'll make for dinner, or what you did last week. Keeping busy is a fine thing to do but I don't think that means you have to focus on directly what's in front of you to find some sort of comfort.


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Re: The paradox of living in the moment [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #25020862 - 02/25/18 03:10 PM (9 months, 15 days ago)

Quote:

Kryptos said:
Mindfulness and living in the moment are somewhat different things. Living in the moment is living without thought to consequence, while mindfulness is living with thought to all consequences, apparent and not.

I find, that like most things in life, a certain, personal, balance is the way to go.




Sorry if I'm being thick here, but isn't 'mindfulness' the activity of paying attention, in the present moment and non-judgmentally, to all things, without being entangled in past things or projecting in the future?


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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Living mindfully in the present is an activity, not a goal to try to reach.




But surely even as an activity we're talking about practising and improving still? Something that can get better in time and therefore creates expectations?


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Re: The paradox of living in the moment [Re: sudly]
    #25020869 - 02/25/18 03:14 PM (9 months, 15 days ago)

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sudly said:
If you can listen to this from about 25:00 on it might be useful, it might not; have nice day.





Thank you for this, it's very interesting; I'm nor sure I've found there a connection with this paradox though..


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