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#24981864 - 02/10/18 12:04 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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This tek is part of bod's cultivation is easy as fuck link listBod's Easy AF cheapest way to get started TEK
The cheapest way to do cakes without a pressure cooker
The cheapest way to to bulk without a pressure cooker
Low maintenance
Without a pressure cooker using a pot with a nice fitting lid that you already own
You will need $10-15 - 12 pack of half pint jars (preferably wide mouth but these are harder to find) $2-5 - Some BRF(brown rice flour) you can grind your own whole brown rice. $5-10 - Some vermiculite $0 - tap water $10-15 - spore syringe $1-2 - storage baggies sandwich or quart size. $28-47 dollars to get started and grow around 2-4oz dried grams of shrooms very easily. $10 more if you don't own a pot with a lid. Get one at an Asian grocery store or wallmart. *** Don't forget there will be some leftovers that save you money off subsequent grows. you will re-use the jars, have enough verm to do a few more grows, BRF is cheap, you'll have extra baggies. Subsequent grows can be done for a few dollars *** Prepare the jars like you would following the PF tek, which is located in the sticky posts at the top of the forum or in the following links. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24179086https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tekwhen it comes time to fruiting skip the SGFC and do this. If using half pint cakes like the PF tek then birth them, wash the dry verm barrier off, put the cake back in the jar and put some new verm on the top. If using a bigger jar you wont need to birth the cake at all because there's no dry verm barrier. Just add some verm to the top and moisten it               you can put them on a shelf somewhere they receive good lighting through the day.   mist them as needed to keep the surface moist. likely once a day to once every other day. Doesn't require any babysitting at all. You can use bigger jars but keep the BRF cake to about a half pint in size. Using larger pucks of BRF cake will stall out when inoculated with a spore syringe, you want to keep the cake to about half pint in size and wide and flat rather than tall and skinny if possible. If you use a bigger jar than the half pint jar skip the dry verm barrier and use a "Grain jar lid"(gas exchange filter and optional injection port) to inoculate and colonize. Do not shake. CONS are the jars are in use for the fruiting period and harvesting can be a pain in the ass. you can use some coir or verm or both together as a top layer or casing to help create a better micro-climate. To do bulk without a pressure cookerMake the cakes as above, then when they are finished colonizing birth them (before the consolidation period as they do not need consolidation used as spawn) Shred the cakes by hand or with a cheese grater. using your shredded cake spawn mix with bucket TEK coir (next two links) https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24077162#24077162https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595#11916595use this to make a monotub or shoebox shoebox tubs are $1 and a brick of coir is about $3. suggested shoebox tekI fruit shoeboxes with grocery bags      total cost to do bulk without a pressure cooker $31-50 don't forget there will be some leftovers that save you money off subsequent grows.
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 Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24982259 - 02/10/18 12:23 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thank you!This is my preferred method.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: mushroomnate] 1
#24983474 - 02/10/18 03:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Love it!
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Sally Hatchet] 1
#24983499 - 02/10/18 03:40 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah...I like dat!
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Tormato] 1
#24984004 - 02/10/18 07:23 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you leave the cake in the jar and use a sandwich bag, do you remove the dry verm layer first? Or does that work as casing?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Meatflap] 1
#24984010 - 02/10/18 07:26 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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remove it as per the PF tek then replace it if you wish with some fresh verm or coir or both.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24984259 - 02/10/18 09:27 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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That Feeling When you Write up Another BOMB ASS AF TEK 
Nice Job With the Tek Mane
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta] 1
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: natedog889] 1
#24984317 - 02/10/18 09:55 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fuckin Smart.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Ziran] 1
#24984475 - 02/10/18 10:57 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like what you did here. You made the bottle tek cheaper and I think that's awesome good job.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: DrRedBush] 2
#24984619 - 02/11/18 12:11 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, just fruiting cakes in jars, or cakes to bulk
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Apples in Mono] 1
#24984622 - 02/11/18 12:13 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's nothing new but sometimes people don't think of the obvious solutions. Especially when you've never done it before. Doesn't hurt to consolidate it to a single post since I've explained it to people more than a few times now.
If you just want enough to trip on you could find a single jar and grind some brown rice and swallow the cost of one bag of verm and get more than enough for the cost of a syringe and a bag of verm.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24984717 - 02/11/18 12:52 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bod, I'm gonna include this link in the updated pf-tek
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24984720 - 02/11/18 12:54 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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I like it.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24984724 - 02/11/18 12:57 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Exactly what I was looking for... Thank You so much...
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta] 2
#24985068 - 02/11/18 06:47 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said:
It's nothing new but sometimes people don't think of the obvious solutions. Especially when you've never done it before. Doesn't hurt to consolidate it to a single post since I've explained it to people more than a few times now.
If you just want enough to trip on you could find a single jar and grind some brown rice and swallow the cost of one bag of verm and get more than enough for the cost of a syringe and a bag of verm.
Yeah, the human tendency to overthink and overcomplicate things is definitely alive and well in this hobby. People waste time and money trying to save time and money
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Apples in Mono] 2
#24985097 - 02/11/18 07:17 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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hmm.. will this have the same yield compared to, birthing- dunk n roll then placed into SGFC.... I understand this is easier but will the yield be significantly less?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: nconn32986] 2
#24985177 - 02/11/18 08:25 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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hmm.. will this have the same yield compared to, birthing- dunk n roll then placed into SGFC.... I understand this is easier but will the yield be significantly less?
In my experience my yield is higher when bulk spawning my cakes.First flush I usually average 70g wet per half pint cake spawned.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#24985290 - 02/11/18 09:48 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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This rocks! 
Good idea for a write up
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: nconn32986] 1
#24985297 - 02/11/18 09:51 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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nconn32986 said:
hmm.. will this have the same yield compared to, birthing- dunk n roll then placed into SGFC.... I understand this is easier but will the yield be significantly less?
Should be very similar if not better.
Its easy to water cakes when they're in a jar.
And bulk tends to bulk things up if you go that route
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#24986630 - 02/11/18 04:38 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for writing this, great stuff as always!
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: RagonkTerramy]
#24987638 - 02/11/18 09:50 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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great tek!
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: MushNoob589]
#24988032 - 02/12/18 03:43 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Good read as always bod!
I think im going to start telling you guys the the teks are stupid more often!
Really got some good info off this situation! 
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#24988409 - 02/12/18 09:45 AM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said:
remove it as per the PF tek then replace it if you wish with some fresh verm or coir or both.
Thanks bro. I'm going to try this with a few jars just for shits and gigs. I guess Ill try with new verm/coir, and just leaving it bare. Ill post what happens.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25008155 - 02/20/18 01:42 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I take the cake out of the jar, dunk, then place back in jar? Do I roll?
Help!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Colts941] 3
#25008206 - 02/20/18 01:58 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can dunk or skip the dunk.
Don't roll the cake is going back in the jar.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25011699 - 02/21/18 08:05 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome Tek, just put some sandwhich bags over 3 multispore jars after they finished the consolidation period. I'm hoping to make my SGFC obsolete thanks to this!
...now to figure out a way to "recycle" that SGFC of mine..
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: RoseyEye] 1
#25011815 - 02/21/18 08:55 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Halloween costume, gigantic colander, pet crustacean home
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25012297 - 02/22/18 01:30 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's a Good decomposition bin too! 
Maybe a planter? 
I like the colander idea  but i love the pet crustaceans home idea Bodhisatta
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: BattyKoda]
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Awake_and_Away]
#25012700 - 02/22/18 08:59 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've read elsewhere that in vitro TEKs aren't viable got getting spore prints. Is that the case / can anyone elaborate?
This easy AF TEK is very appealing to a newbie, but what if one wanted to get some spores out of the grow too?
You can get prints this way. Just remove the bag and take an open cap.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: LtLurker]
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Awake_and_Away]
#25012735 - 02/22/18 09:16 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any flush will work. You want to let the cap open all the way and start dropping spores, you'll see black dust below it. If you take too early it won't drop a print for you.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: LtLurker]
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta] 2
#25015842 - 02/23/18 11:48 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Would there be an advantage to moving the half pint brf cakes to a larger jar for fruiting? It would free up the jar for the next batch, would it affect the growth at all? Would there be a maximum size you could go to? Maybe if you went too big, it would encourage them to grow too long/tall and they'd get floppy? I also think the larger jar might help with side pins, but really I'm just a newb making up theories.
I want to try both of these but I'll do the leave in jar method first because I don't have all the supplies for the bulk option
Is the jar yield similar to that of a sgfc?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25034307 - 03/02/18 06:35 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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So i can mist the specimens directly?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: WakeNup]
#25034328 - 03/02/18 06:44 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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of course. they do like rain
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25057473 - 03/12/18 12:08 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey bod, I've been reading quite a few of your tek threads and wanted to say thanks for them! <3
I'm wondering what the cheap AF method for drying harvested mushrooms is? Thanks!
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Buffy]
#25057743 - 03/12/18 06:15 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Food dehydrator
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25067701 - 03/16/18 01:14 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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About to get started growing shrooms for the first time and this guide is amazing. I'm literally getting things for free just by being patient and buying cheap. Wish me luck and I will be posting updates and my setup and what not. Nice to meet everyone.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PerplexityNW]
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About to get started growing shrooms for the first time and this guide is amazing. I'm literally getting things for free just by being patient and buying cheap. Wish me luck and I will be posting updates and my setup and what not. Nice to meet everyone.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Tormato]
#25078391 - 03/20/18 06:08 PM (6 years, 28 days ago) |
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So I'm using this method with one lonely jar I have and it's pinning on the sides. I was wondering if you have any suggestions to encourage fruiting on top, like in the example photos?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: SpiralsAhead] 1
#25078392 - 03/20/18 06:09 PM (6 years, 28 days ago) |
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Get it moist on the top
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
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Get it moist on the top
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: mushroomnate]
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Thank you!This is my preferred method.
what are the type of mushroom on the top of your pic?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Snowak]
#25083119 - 03/22/18 05:57 PM (6 years, 26 days ago) |
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Top of my pic?My sig?Cubensis,wild find.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25085573 - 03/23/18 05:25 PM (6 years, 25 days ago) |
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I'm almost fully colonized because of this tek. Almost the same as cannabis growing but not quite. It's only been 3 days and these jars are going nuts.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PerplexityNW]
#25087468 - 03/24/18 03:36 PM (6 years, 24 days ago) |
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I'm doing this with 2 jars of PESA that I was originally going to use as grain masters. Seems
fun. I'm looking forward to seeing how this works out.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Asura]
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Thank you very much for this in-depth writeup 
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: iux] 1
#25130919 - 04/11/18 01:15 PM (6 years, 6 days ago) |
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I like this when I got an extra spawn jar. These are the best results I've gotten so far.
 
 
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: LtLurker]
#25131300 - 04/11/18 04:45 PM (6 years, 6 days ago) |
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Wow awesome LtLurker, looks great.
Just wanted to say thanks for the tek Bod, I am going to try this for my first cultivation effort.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: scubasteven]
#25179516 - 05/02/18 07:53 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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If i use 1 pint jars instead of half pint jars, i still want the cake to only be half pint sized right? So what do i do with the leftover space in the jar? Fill with dry verm? Im confused because it says not to do the dry verm barrier if using larger jars.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Bioscarr]
#25179574 - 05/02/18 08:32 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re read it lol.
It says to use a grain jar lid (gas exchange lid). The pictures don't show the void space filled with vermiculite.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25179772 - 05/02/18 10:33 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Literally read it 10+ times. Thats why i finally decided to post. It looks like the jars are all the way full but with what? Does the substrate just expand? Or is it mycelium that filled up the space? And how do i make a grain jar lid? I used the search on here but it didnt give me any results on how to best make one.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Bioscarr]
#25179781 - 05/02/18 10:39 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25110988
That's how i do it with tyvek. Can also poly fill a hole. Look in Bod's Stickied Tek list if you need more details, his lids are in there.
Looks like only his 1/2 pint jars are full.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: LtLurker]
#25179805 - 05/02/18 10:53 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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So short answer is extra space at the top of a larger jar is fine? And thank you very much for that link
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Bioscarr]
#25179812 - 05/02/18 10:58 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Extra space is fine IF you have a lid filter, like bod said.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: LtLurker]
#25179815 - 05/02/18 11:02 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Okay cool that solves my confusion. Thank you so much and sorry for the noobness
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Bioscarr]
#25179984 - 05/02/18 01:18 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Literally read it 10+ times. Thats why i finally decided to post. It looks like the jars are all the way full but with what? Does the substrate just expand? Or is it mycelium that filled up the space? And how do i make a grain jar lid? I used the search on here but it didnt give me any results on how to best make one.
The bigger jars just have void space. A grain jar lid is a lid that provides gas exchange that is filtered so no contamination can enter the jar. Usually this is tyvek, polyfil, synthetic filter disk.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25180027 - 05/02/18 01:47 PM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you so much that really clears things up for me.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Bioscarr]
#25187267 - 05/06/18 08:33 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you for posting this.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: ketafiend]
#25190730 - 05/08/18 12:06 AM (5 years, 11 months ago) |
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What are some fruiting times y’all had with this method? Also, am I supposed to dunk my cakes before I start fruiting with this tek? Thank you!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25203412 - 05/14/18 02:14 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can dunk or skip the dunk.
Don't roll the cake is going back in the jar.
Glad I read through the thread. wasn't sure if I needed a 14-24 hour dunk either.
I used my garden hose to carefully wash off whatever old verm came off easily (a good portion seems to be in the consolidation so I left it alone), put them back in the jar, put about half inch of verm on top - put plastic baggies on the jars like hats and put them in a sunny window.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Thorasta]
#25205232 - 05/15/18 10:14 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25211891 - 05/18/18 06:16 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is great. Just knowing that this method is available makes it more enjoyable. Curious why they need to be removed from the jar and why the verm replaced. Does the birthing and replacing stimulate growth?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Cjmckay]
#25213301 - 05/18/18 06:51 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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The initial verm layer acts as a filter during colonization, so it could be full of bacteria/contams, which is why it needs to be replaced with fresh verm
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Sally Hatchet]
#25217166 - 05/20/18 06:28 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I came upon a post about Fruiting Conditions from 11 years ago that clears up a lot. I'm assuming it wouldn't hurt to cook or PC the new verm if contams are a concern.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PerplexityNW]
#25230085 - 05/26/18 03:09 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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After the first flush.
Do I remove the cake from the jar and dunk it like normal?
Then.
Put the cake back in the jar,
And replace the verm layer?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: BattyKoda] 1
#25230276 - 05/26/18 04:58 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you want to. Or you can mist it or whatever you like to rehydrate
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25230355 - 05/26/18 05:40 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: BattyKoda]
#25233729 - 05/28/18 10:40 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow, thanks for this will give this a try.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: FlappyFolds]
#25238763 - 05/30/18 04:58 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the write up! This is my first grow and I had one jar that I had to wait to birth . I went with this tek tonight ! Can't wait to see the results ! Only question I have is do I need to mist the entire cake the first time or just the new layer I added to the top ?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
#25238777 - 05/30/18 05:07 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just the top.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25239170 - 05/30/18 08:21 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just the top.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
#25244685 - 06/02/18 03:33 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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When adding the new verm layer, do you fill it to the rim again? The cakes kind of shrunk during consolidation and I feel like there's a solid inch of verm on top again. I moistened it, but I'm wondering if it's even necessary to have. Have any of you tried it without the new verm layer?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Haus Absolute] 1
#25244730 - 06/02/18 04:06 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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You don't need to case it but a little verm sprinkle helps.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25244838 - 06/02/18 05:23 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks! I made some adjustments. Now for the wait..
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Haus Absolute]
#25246491 - 06/03/18 03:08 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looking to do my first and this looks perfect.....Thanks
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25249725 - 06/05/18 09:15 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow, Thank you! Im new to all of this, and this information is straight forward and very clear! Thank you for sharing!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: angiegrace]
#25251560 - 06/06/18 08:08 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Got pins today ! But they are on the sides of the jar ... normal ?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
#25251761 - 06/06/18 09:52 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Your on the right path grasshopper!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: BattyKoda]
#25252013 - 06/06/18 12:10 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks Bob for this. I am going to try my first time and this is extremely helpful. Now off to round up the items needed.......
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Sychodelic1]
#25255428 - 06/08/18 05:42 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi so I used this method and got a brf jar about 85% colonized and then it got contam in the 15% uncolonized part. I took the cake out, cleared the uncolonized/ contammed part, sterilized the jar and put the cake back in the jar with fresh verm. I've been attempting to fruit using this tek but no luck after 2 weeks. Should I try a SGFC? Is this cake just done for? Any ideas?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: MayorBobbledoodery]
#25255455 - 06/08/18 06:10 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hi so I used this method and got a brf jar about 85% colonized and then it got contam in the 15% uncolonized part. I took the cake out, cleared the uncolonized/ contammed part, sterilized the jar and put the cake back in the jar with fresh verm. I've been attempting to fruit using this tek but no luck after 2 weeks. Should I try a SGFC? Is this cake just done for? Any ideas?
You can always give it a try....got any pics?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Tormato] 1
#25256143 - 06/08/18 01:52 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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First grow and I Had a single jar left to birth and I decided to give this tek a whirl ...here is my jar ... holy side pins batman!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
#25260284 - 06/10/18 07:44 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I really hope those pins find their way to the top. It's so depressing watching pins abort while there's nothing you can do. I birthed 7 cakes to sgfc, I have 2 small monos incubating, and 3 cakes that are about 3 days from dunking. I am going to try the bag tek on them as an experiment. In the past, I would cut off good parts of contaminated cakes, break it up, mix it with gardening soil and pasteurized horse manure. I would put it all in coffee cans made to sgfc standards (holes), cover it with plastic wrap with holes in it. I misted every few days and just kinda pumped the plastic wrap up and down to fan. I think the most I got was 10 dried grains off one flush. Each can only had at most half a cake so I think the manure helped big time.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: rob1130ob]
#25261082 - 06/11/18 08:52 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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rob1130ob said:
I really hope those pins find their way to the top. It's so depressing watching pins abort while there's nothing you can do. I birthed 7 cakes to sgfc, I have 2 small monos incubating, and 3 cakes that are about 3 days from dunking. I am going to try the bag tek on them as an experiment. In the past, I would cut off good parts of contaminated cakes, break it up, mix it with gardening soil and pasteurized horse manure. I would put it all in coffee cans made to sgfc standards (holes), cover it with plastic wrap with holes in it. I misted every few days and just kinda pumped the plastic wrap up and down to fan. I think the most I got was 10 dried grains off one flush. Each can only had at most half a cake so I think the manure helped big time.
I'm not worried .... lol ...
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
#25261118 - 06/11/18 09:11 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mine looked just that. I popped them out and gave them more space.
 
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Cjmckay]
#25261270 - 06/11/18 10:42 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm a little worried about getting them out . Once the top ones mature I'll be able to easily pick them but getting the cake out to remove all the side ones may prove to be tricky ... any tips on how to get it out with minimal damage to the cake ? Maybe break the jar ?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88] 2
#25261273 - 06/11/18 10:45 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Flip it over and bang on it till it comes out
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
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Flip it over and bang on it till it comes out
Awesome . Thanks love ! 
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
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I really hope those pins find their way to the top. It's so depressing watching pins abort while there's nothing you can do. I birthed 7 cakes to sgfc, I have 2 small monos incubating, and 3 cakes that are about 3 days from dunking. I am going to try the bag tek on them as an experiment. In the past, I would cut off good parts of contaminated cakes, break it up, mix it with gardening soil and pasteurized horse manure. I would put it all in coffee cans made to sgfc standards (holes), cover it with plastic wrap with holes in it. I misted every few days and just kinda pumped the plastic wrap up and down to fan. I think the most I got was 10 dried grains off one flush. Each can only had at most half a cake so I think the manure helped big time.
I'm not worried .... lol ...
I only had a couple small ones growing from the top so I just picked them and ate them then bounced the cakes out. I couldn't take seeing them trapped in there like that.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Cjmckay]
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My jar is just growing side pins well they aren't pins anymore they are full mushrooms growing around the jar which i find weird. I have a CV layer on top which i thought would help promote pins on the top but so far it hasn't, should i ditch the CV after this first flush? or add a new one but less? when should i harvest these also? because its hard to tell when they are mushed inside the jar like this. Thanks in advance!
  
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25264224 - 06/12/18 07:09 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So mine are starting to show some solid progress. I'm wondering though, do I still keep the bag over the top the whole time? What about when they grow big enough to touch the sides of the bag? I'm worried about damaging them as I put it on and off to fan/mist.
 
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
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My jar is just growing side pins well they aren't pins anymore they are full mushrooms growing around the jar which i find weird. I have a CV layer on top which i thought would help promote pins on the top but so far it hasn't, should i ditch the CV after this first flush? or add a new one but less? when should i harvest these also? because its hard to tell when they are mushed inside the jar like this. Thanks in advance!
Since you have those short wide mouthjars they should pop out easy. Those pins look like they are still salvageable for growing normally.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Cjmckay]
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My jar is just growing side pins well they aren't pins anymore they are full mushrooms growing around the jar which i find weird. I have a CV layer on top which i thought would help promote pins on the top but so far it hasn't, should i ditch the CV after this first flush? or add a new one but less? when should i harvest these also? because its hard to tell when they are mushed inside the jar like this. Thanks in advance!
Since you have those short wide mouthjars they should pop out easy. Those pins look like they are still salvageable for growing normally.
So just let it go as it is? and just see if they pop out the top? i mean i didn't plan on doing much beside harvesting if i can ever tell when they are ready.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25265096 - 06/13/18 07:47 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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My jar is just growing side pins well they aren't pins anymore they are full mushrooms growing around the jar which i find weird. I have a CV layer on top which i thought would help promote pins on the top but so far it hasn't, should i ditch the CV after this first flush? or add a new one but less? when should i harvest these also? because its hard to tell when they are mushed inside the jar like this. Thanks in advance!
Since you have those short wide mouthjars they should pop out easy. Those pins look like they are still salvageable for growing normally.
So just let it go as it is? and just see if they pop out the top? i mean i didn't plan on doing much beside harvesting if i can ever tell when they are ready.
I was suggesting taking the whole cake out of the jar and letting the sides grow to full size. My cakes have only produced one or two small ones at a time so far. But you could harvest those now. I did one of those flat side pins this weekend that was half the size of my pinky and tripped a lot more than I was expecting. Almost the perfect amount.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Cjmckay]
#25265111 - 06/13/18 07:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ahh well this morning before I left for work one had popped out of the top from the side and the big one on the side has gotten even bigger and the veil had broken you can see it in the glass. I will take pics when I get home and show you guys. If it's not to late I'll still pull it out maybe and let it fruit the rest of the way out of the jar
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25265321 - 06/13/18 10:30 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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here is what it looks like this morning. Do you still think i should try and take it out of the jar?
   
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25265636 - 06/13/18 12:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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It'll probably be ready this evening or tomorrow morning. The whole thing should just pop out like birthing a cake.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: LtLurker]
#25265676 - 06/13/18 01:11 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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So should I harvest once the veil breaks? or wait a little longer cause the veils have broken on the ones that are smashed on the inside. I bet i can harvest later this after noon or maybe in the morning tomorrow after i get off work, that may even be to late depending on the right time to harvest. The single on that popping out of the CV right now has grown just since i posted the pic above. Right next to it is a smaller mushroom with another small mushroom growing on top of it!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25265855 - 06/13/18 02:34 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mostly preference I guess. I would pay attention to the large one coming out; either harvest when its veil tears, or let it open if you need a print.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: LtLurker]
#25265869 - 06/13/18 02:39 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive not read up on taking prints yet so I don't think I'm prepared to do that yet. I'm still learning. I'll wait till later on this after noon and see how it looks and post an updated picture let you guys see
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz] 1
#25265909 - 06/13/18 02:51 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Put cap on foil. Thats sporeprints
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25265938 - 06/13/18 03:03 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thats it?, lol I still have plenty of ms solution from two different syringes i got from a vendor. i figure i will just inoculate with those when i make more cakes.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz] 1
#25266193 - 06/13/18 04:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Spore print = never buying a spore syringe again.
Spore print from your own grow = priceless shit you can potentially brag about. Much, much cooler than a spore syringe you bought online.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Bry Bry]
#25266214 - 06/13/18 05:02 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Spore print = never buying a spore syringe again.
Spore print from your own grow = priceless shit you can potentially brag about. Much, much cooler than a spore syringe you bought online.
I believe that i just don't have the stuff for it yet but i will get there, i need to make an SAB and i wanna maybe get one from one of my spawned ones and see if they are any good. I'm doing some reading on it now, just seen BOD's tek for it seems pretty simple just need to make me a SAB and then i should be able to do it. Would be pretty cool to be able to brag about something i grew from a print i made lol
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz] 1
#25266324 - 06/13/18 05:47 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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This was taken a few hours ago and I swear they're way bigger already. By tomorrow, they'll be touching the sides of the bag. Do I still keep the bag over the top, or leave it off at this point?
 
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#25266360 - 06/13/18 06:02 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sweet! What variety you got going on? You might have yourself something for the weekend there
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Haus Absolute] 1
#25266452 - 06/13/18 06:43 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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This was taken a few hours ago and I swear they're way bigger already. By tomorrow, they'll be touching the sides of the bag. Do I still keep the bag over the top, or leave it off at this point?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25266618 - 06/13/18 08:07 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Spore print = never buying a spore syringe again.
Spore print from your own grow = priceless shit you can potentially brag about. Much, much cooler than a spore syringe you bought online.
I believe that i just don't have the stuff for it yet but i will get there, i need to make an SAB and i wanna maybe get one from one of my spawned ones and see if they are any good. I'm doing some reading on it now, just seen BOD's tek for it seems pretty simple just need to make me a SAB and then i should be able to do it. Would be pretty cool to be able to brag about something i grew from a print i made lol
 
I haven't used a SAB for anything yet. I made some prints in jars but had to do some scraping to get them up. I guess I'm pushing some sanitary boundaries. The jars are showing fast growth though.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Haus Absolute]
#25266677 - 06/13/18 08:40 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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This was taken a few hours ago and I swear they're way bigger already. By tomorrow, they'll be touching the sides of the bag. Do I still keep the bag over the top, or leave it off at this point?
Leave it on(take off to mist as/if needed)
It's ok if they touch the sides.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: mushroomnate]
#25266681 - 06/13/18 08:43 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nice Homie!!!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: BattyKoda] 1
#25267362 - 06/14/18 07:49 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well i harvested my cake last night, it was extremely hard to get out of the jar i banged and shook it a bunch and ended up needing a spoon to kinda dig it out. Not sure on weight but i know it wasn't very much. I have a scale coming in later today so i will update with the weight. The cake was pretty dry and i misted it and let some water sit in the bottom over night to see if it would soak it up and it did completely I am actually dunking it right now just for a few hours to let it soak up any more water it needs! thanks for the help guys
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz] 1
#25267763 - 06/14/18 11:55 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I only ended up getting 22 grams wet off of this one cake so its not much but enough to probably get me where i want to be. Going to enjoy them this weekend sometime
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz] 1
#25268369 - 06/14/18 05:08 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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My hot and sour soup container may be it.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Cjmckay]
#25268377 - 06/14/18 05:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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What is that in the bottom? just a layer of verm? looks good too wish we had Chinese around where i live, its my favorite
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25268515 - 06/14/18 06:25 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah just a little verm. I figured it would keep it from sitting in a puddle.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Cjmckay]
#25268523 - 06/14/18 06:31 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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right on i might try that
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: mushroomnate]
#25268560 - 06/14/18 06:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks! I went to fan and mist after work today and noticed some strange discolorations. Hopefully it's nothing. They're growing fast. I appreciate everyones help!
 
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Haus Absolute]
#25268590 - 06/14/18 07:05 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks! I went to fan and mist after work today and noticed some strange discolorations. Hopefully it's nothing. They're growing fast. I appreciate everyones help!
NiceMight just be the good blue.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Cjmckay]
#25276489 - 06/18/18 12:45 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well I have finally gotten some more pins on this single cake I'm doing this way but cant seems to get any top pins but its okay at least I have some! I've been keeping the top nice and misted but still just have side pins here are some of them!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25277872 - 06/19/18 12:08 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well i harvested my cake last night, it was extremely hard to get out of the jar i banged and shook it a bunch and ended up needing a spoon to kinda dig it out. Not sure on weight but i know it wasn't very much. I have a scale coming in later today so i will update with the weight. The cake was pretty dry and i misted it and let some water sit in the bottom over night to see if it would soak it up and it did completely I am actually dunking it right now just for a few hours to let it soak up any more water it needs! thanks for the help guys
Hold the jar upside down and hit the bottom three times.
Them turn the jar at a downward angle.
Just like your putting ketchup on a hot dog.
Karate chop the side of the jar about three or four times and it should pop right out.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25278286 - 06/19/18 07:20 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well I have finally gotten some more pins on this single cake I'm doing this way but cant seems to get any top pins but its okay at least I have some! I've been keeping the top nice and misted but still just have side pins here are some of them!
I'm surprised with those jars they didn't come out easier. I only have the tall half pints. They did give me trouble when the pins wedged themselves in there. BTW, the hot and sour soup container produced my first contams. The smell became very apparent. It's been pretty hot here, almost 90. I was also a bit lax on sanitizing. Just washed with soap and water.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Cjmckay]
#25278329 - 06/19/18 07:52 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hold the jar upside down and hit the bottom three times.
Them turn the jar at a downward angle.
Just like your putting ketchup on a hot dog.
Karate chop the side of the jar about three or four times and it should pop right out.
yea i tried all of that even tried a trick my dad taught me to hold the jar in one hand and hit your wrist, it creates a kinda a deep vibrating action worked for me before but this sucker was not coming out. It ended up taking me at least five mins with a spoon to get it out wasn't budging at all. But i got it out.
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I'm surprised with those jars they didn't come out easier. I only have the tall half pints. They did give me trouble when the pins wedged themselves in there. BTW, the hot and sour soup container produced my first contams. The smell became very apparent. It's been pretty hot here, almost 90. I was also a bit lax on sanitizing. Just washed with soap and water.
yea i was really surprised too! I moved it from the jar to a different container. My wife buys our dog these treats in plastic container and it fits the cake perfectly it has plenty of room all around the sides of it and a nice 3 inches of space above it with a loose fitting lid. I have to be honest I didn't really was it too good. I just sprayed it out with hot water so it will probably contam but oh well as long as i get a few flushes out of it I'm okay. The little mushies seem to like this better too more space to branch out and grow the few pins have grown a lot more since i put them in this container.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
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Hold the jar upside down and hit the bottom three times.
Them turn the jar at a downward angle.
Just like your putting ketchup on a hot dog.
Karate chop the side of the jar about three or four times and it should pop right out.
yea i tried all of that even tried a trick my dad taught me to hold the jar in one hand and hit your wrist, it creates a kinda a deep vibrating action worked for me before but this sucker was not coming out. It ended up taking me at least five mins with a spoon to get it out wasn't budging at all. But i got it out.
Your Judo Chop is not yet strong enough Young Grasshoppa. 
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Your Judo Chop is not yet strong enough Young Grasshoppa.
Homie.
I will start practicing my chop, Thanks Snakeye! I'll let you guys know how this container plays out once I harvest. I'll add some pics of it then too
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25285159 - 06/22/18 12:50 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here is the container that I started fruiting my single cake in. Its a dog treat container from Freds it seems to be working perfectly! I mist every once in a while and kinda use the lid to fan it.
Here is a shot from the top. I think I'm going to try and print that big mushy when the time come to. Will be my first print but i am running out of spore juice.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Opticz]
#25288160 - 06/23/18 08:58 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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A few questions from a newbie!
Is it necessary to birth the cakes to get the layer of verm off? Can I just spoon out the verm and reapply a new layer?
Do I wash the entire cake, or just wash off the top layer of verm?
Do I need to put any holes in the bags for FAE?
What kind of light do they need?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: buried_totems]
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A few questions from a newbie!
Is it necessary to birth the cakes to get the layer of verm off? Can I just spoon out the verm and reapply a new layer?
Do I wash the entire cake, or just wash off the top layer of verm?
Do I need to put any holes in the bags for FAE?
What kind of light do they need?
1. Dump out the old verm you don't need to birth your cakes. Add a very thin layer of new verm and mist it until damp.
2. Don't wash it at all
3.No just remove it daily to mist when needed and don't seal the bag too tightly around the jar
4. I set mine next to a window in indirect sunlight
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
#25288544 - 06/24/18 01:14 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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A few questions from a newbie!
Is it necessary to birth the cakes to get the layer of verm off? Can I just spoon out the verm and reapply a new layer?
Do I wash the entire cake, or just wash off the top layer of verm?
Do I need to put any holes in the bags for FAE?
What kind of light do they need?
1. Dump out the old verm you don't need to birth your cakes. Add a very thin layer of new verm and mist it until damp.
2. Don't wash it at all
3.No just remove it daily to mist when needed and don't seal the bag too tightly around the jar
4. I set mine next to a window in indirect sunlight
Good luck !
Thanks very much for the response. Forgive my ignorance, but what is the point of birthing the cakes? Do I wash them? Or am I literally birthing and then putting them back in the jar? I'm definitely missing something here. Do I dunk for 24 hours?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: buried_totems]
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You don't dunk at all ! Just open the jar and dump out the old verm and add a new very thin layer. You don't have to take the cake out of the jar at all (at least I didn't) Just mist the new verm you added as needed .
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
#25288955 - 06/24/18 09:21 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: buried_totems]
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Thanks!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: PennyLane88]
#25289515 - 06/24/18 03:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I really liked the idea of this so I gave it a try
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Soulsearchin2018]
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I really liked the idea of this so I gave it a try
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Soulsearchin2018]
#25289522 - 06/24/18 03:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm guessing it's going to work half as good as the baggie. more stale and less air exchange + trapped humidity
which one would you rather stick a pet hamster in. mushrooms like to breathe too
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
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I harvested my single cake today and it turned out pretty pathetic again just the like first flush. Granted i took two of the bigger caps off to take some prints it only came out to 15 wet grams not much for anything but it's at least something. I didn't do a proper dunk after the first flush so I'm trying that now to see if i get a better third flush off of this cake. Probably going to be a crappy one too but we shall see.
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Hey friends, I thought up one last question about fruiting in jars.
When applying the new layer of verm (after scooping out the old layer), do I need to sterilize the new verm by baking it or anything like that? Or just dump straight from the bag? I am a bit paranoid about contams.
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Hey friends, I thought up one last question about fruiting in jars.
When applying the new layer of verm (after scooping out the old layer), do I need to sterilize the new verm by baking it or anything like that? Or just dump straight from the bag? I am a bit paranoid about contams.
I never sterilize verm. But if you feel you must bake it in the oven while it's damp
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#25290009 - 06/24/18 09:38 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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#25290070 - 06/24/18 10:17 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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There's a hole on top for FAE
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There's a hole on top for FAE
I don't think there is ... I didn't make a hole .
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#25291842 - 06/25/18 09:29 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Okay folks, I just did my very first jar fruiting process:
I used iso-wiped gloves and birthed the cake. It has receded significantly because it's squeezing the verm so tight, so it popped out easy. I rinsed all the verm off of it with cool water.
I put it back in the jar, trying to get as much liquid out of the jar and off the cake as possible. And then I put a new layer of verm over the top.
The issue is, the cake is significantly thinner than the jar, so some verm spilled over the sides of the cake and is now trapped between the cake and the class. Like, a non-negligible amount of it. Is this okay? Is the fact that I didn't dry the cake/jar with a paper towel before putting it back in ok?
I then misted the verm layer and the inside of a ziplock bag, then put the bag over the top of the jar.
Also I noticed how hard the cake was! I thought it'd be delicate, but man this thing is firm. Feels like a tennis ball. Is this okay? I've never touched a cake before.
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So, another newbie here sorry if questions have been answered (at work rn)
Im pretty far into it and seeing some good pin growth, however after skimming some questions and answers on some of these pages, I realized I may have done some things differently and would like clarifications if possible!
So I did dunk and roll. Left my cakes to sit in water for 24 hrs, then made a grave for the cake and put it back into the jar with new verm on top.
Ive read that you dont even have to dunk or roll them, and you could simply dump out old verm and replace. Does it matter if I proceeded with the dunk and roll? I mean pins are popping up everywhere so so far so good id imagine? I dont even have to wash the cakes? Just seems odd but hey its working.
Next, and probably my most concerning question, is pin growth on the sides... Nothing on top that I can see yet, but Im seeing a lot of pins on the sides in each jar. Should I let them grow in there or what? I read that it doesnt really impede on growth but idk I feel like theyd just stop growing once they "realize" theres no more room. Or will they start migrating up? If someone could clear that up for me that would be great!!
Im thinking of just making a SGFC while the pins are maturing.. But id like to avoid it if possible. Very limited space, dont have the materials right now! Could I still use the jar bag idea, but let the cake sit in a bigger container? Should I just let em grow in the jar? I have like 6 - 7 pins on the sides of each jars so I dont wanna risk losing a lot of potential..
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: zpathos]
#25295646 - 06/27/18 06:45 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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^ I am very curious about the answers to these questions.
I'm also waiting on answers to my own, posted just above his. Anyone? We noobs need some oversight here!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: buried_totems]
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Okay folks, I just did my very first jar fruiting process:
I used iso-wiped gloves and birthed the cake. It has receded significantly because it's squeezing the verm so tight, so it popped out easy. I rinsed all the verm off of it with cool water.
I put it back in the jar, trying to get as much liquid out of the jar and off the cake as possible. And then I put a new layer of verm over the top.
The issue is, the cake is significantly thinner than the jar, so some verm spilled over the sides of the cake and is now trapped between the cake and the class. Like, a non-negligible amount of it. Is this okay? Is the fact that I didn't dry the cake/jar with a paper towel before putting it back in ok?
I then misted the verm layer and the inside of a ziplock bag, then put the bag over the top of the jar.
Also I noticed how hard the cake was! I thought it'd be delicate, but man this thing is firm. Feels like a tennis ball. Is this okay? I've never touched a cake before.
A little verm down the side of the jar won’t hurt anything and cakes are going to be a little firm...when they consolidate the stiff up a bit.
From what I read above you’re good to go! Post pics when u can!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Tormato]
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Thanks! I don't have a daylight spectrum bulb. Should I sun the jar instead? I heard a rumor about 15 mins of sun per day being the fast pass for fruiting
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: buried_totems]
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Thanks! I don't have a daylight spectrum bulb. Should I sun the jar instead? I heard a rumor about 15 mins of sun per day being the fast pass for fruiting
Don't ever put your jar in direct sunlight !
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Thanks! I don't have a daylight spectrum bulb. Should I sun the jar instead? I heard a rumor about 15 mins of sun per day being the fast pass for fruiting
I use indirect sunlight, just place it in a room with a window and you should be good to go
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Sally Hatchet]
#25296657 - 06/28/18 09:50 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Direct sunlight can dry things out but for a species that grows in fields in the hottest and sunniest states in America yea sunlight is fine
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I heard a rumor about 15 mins of sun per day being the fast pass for fruiting
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RR swore by it. Idk every now and then i take the lids off my tub and put them by an open window.
Sometimes i have to do the opposite of misting which is letting the surface dry a little because it was too wet. A 4' long shop light over the tub with the lid off for an hour or two works pretty good
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RR swore by it. Idk every now and then i take the lids off my tub and put them by an open window.
Sometimes i have to do the opposite of misting which is letting the surface dry a little because it was too wet. A 4' long shop light over the tub with the lid off for an hour or two works pretty good
Tubs would be more plausible, but I don't think jars would be worth the hassle....15 minutes a day in direct sunlight?
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Gonna go with this for my first try, thanks!
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#25297624 - 06/28/18 06:56 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well, I stuck 'em in the sun a few minutes today and then read this and brought them back in. We don't get much indirect sunlight in here because of our north-facing windows. But we will see. How do I know if the verm layer is too wet?
How long does it take for pinning to start after you put a jar into fruiting anyway? And how long until harvest? Sorry, I really don't know!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: buried_totems]
#25297734 - 06/28/18 07:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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You're over thinking it homie.
I checked on mine in the morning and once in the evening.
Sometimes only once.
Mist as needed.
I've only had the substrate dry out once and I believe that was because I had the dehydrator running in the same room.
My cakes have never dried out.
In the sgfc or the jar.
You should see beautiful tiny water droplets on your mycelium.
I held mine up to the light to see the gleam.
But it should be noticeable.
Pf Tek
Misted Cake Project
How it should and shouldn't look.
My Friend!
PS
Another thing that helped me was to put dry verm in a bowl.
View.
Then some hydrated verm in another bowl.
View.
You'll see the difference!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: BattyKoda]
#25298073 - 06/28/18 11:22 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh wow thank you. Great tips. How long from pin to harvest usually? How will I know when to harvest?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25306107 - 07/03/18 09:10 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey Bod, this is my first grow so I want to use my jars and keep it simple.
I have 2 quart jars of rye berries that are 3/4 full. Should I just top those and go or do I need to take some of the culture out of each jar so they are only half way full? Would breaking up the mycelium to make jars half full hurt me using this process.
Thanks for this right up man. I bought this old book written by Terrence McKenna and he uses jars like this but yours has less maintenance. Thanks for helping us get started cheap!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: audiosnipez]
#25306285 - 07/03/18 10:46 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Your jars can be as full or not as you want. If they're very full they're going to be impossible to shake up is all
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when fruiting in the jars how do i tell if the cakes are drying out?
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when fruiting in the jars how do i tell if the cakes are drying out?
Check them out.
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^ this is a good question.
Also, fruiting a jar for 5 days now. No pins. Am I doing something wrong? I waited five days after full colonization, birthed, rinsed, applied new verm layer (1/4"), misted, bagged. Indirect sunlight. Temp is good.
Its only been 5 days.
Pick the cake up if it feels light or feels dense will tell you.
If you dunked it and put it back in the jar it will have plenty of water, and only will need a surface misting now and then
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Its only been 5 days.
Pick the cake up if it feels light or feels dense will tell you.
If you dunked it and put it back in the jar it will have plenty of water, and only will need a surface misting now and then
It's pretty meaty and dense. Feels heavy. But I was sure not to put it back in completely soaking or anything. For future reference, how long do pins typically take to start showing in a brf jar when put into fruiting stage?
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5-20 days i would say
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Oh wow, I had no idea. I thought it was like 3-8 days for some reason. Thanks mate
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They are fine homie!
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I have been doing shoeboxes, and have never done the PF tek. I started with PastyPlates and Violet's in vitro tek before moving onto bulk.
But I became interested in trying this method when my friend gave me two jars of pf tek. The whole reason I never wanted to do PF tek was making a shotgun fruiting chamber seemed like such a pain in the ass. I sure as hell wasn't going to make one for two cakes and I didn't have enough cakes to go bulk. Then I saw this thread.
SO, here I am. Fruited on 6/27, thin layer of verm, misting 1 or 2 times per day and I've got pins. I'm also not sure what variety it is. I dunked one for 24 hours and didn't dunk the other, not sure which is which:
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Nice
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First BRF jar ever!
Should I wait any longer past veil partial break, or pluck?
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pick em when you want to they're your mushrooms
they're fine to eat, especially dehydrated.
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Well I was told that if I pick before veils break I can get multiple flushes. Is that true? Something about spores touching the mycelium tells it to stop fruiting?
What would you do, bod? Wait longer?
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What bod would do,
I would make the decision myself
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thanks bod <3 i've reached the end of my journey. this is a big day for me, spiritually. i appreciate the guidance.
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I harvest mine right after the veil drops or tears.
And I've Always gotten multiple flushes
I've had it spore on my substrate before and the second flush came in just fine!
Spores just make them taste worse!
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Harvesting left a bit of the stem base in the jar. Is that a problem for the second flush?
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I Usually Twist And Pull(Gently) On My Cakes.
Shoeboxes I'll cut and leave a stump.
(I cut as close to the substrate as possible without damaging it)
It hasn't given me a problem yet!
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Harvesting left a bit of the stem base in the jar. Is that a problem for the second flush?
No check out my harvesting tek
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25321794 - 07/12/18 07:12 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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#25321869 - 07/12/18 08:26 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: BattyKoda]
#25321898 - 07/12/18 08:50 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anyone ever seen stumps get all fuzzy like this a day after harvest? Is that mold?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: buried_totems]
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Anyone ever seen stumps get all fuzzy like this a day after harvest? Is that mold?
Stumps reverting back to mycelium...normal
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
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so after birthing and putting back in the jar I simply put a Ziploc bag on top? Do I need to poke holes into the bag? and do I leave the bag on the entire fruiting stage?
what is the overall best temperature that you recommend? the room temperature I have here is 75-78
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: cvgrown]
#25328768 - 07/15/18 09:49 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Temp is fine. No holes in bag. Don't seal bag too tightly.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: buried_totems]
#25328886 - 07/15/18 10:59 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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like this?
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: cvgrown]
#25328914 - 07/15/18 11:25 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yup. I rested the seal on the lip of the jar where the lid screws on. Made sure to take off the bag once or twice a day for a second to get some air exchange. I also misted the inside of the bag but I don't know if that really matters.
Be patient for eight days or so. Then.... Eurkea
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: cvgrown]
#25329184 - 07/16/18 06:04 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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like this?
Looks good homie!
No need to mist the bag.
I only remove the bag when the verm layer needs misting.
Misted Cake Project.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: BattyKoda]
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Thank you for this!!!
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: FunnyFungiName]
#25331502 - 07/17/18 12:18 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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First grow here - decided to do two small jars and three bulk, shoeboxes doing well with moisture but finding the tops of the jars are always dry and getting one or two tiny shrooms (aborts ?) right at the bottom of both jars, any answers on this? Anyone else get this?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: FredyMech]
#25331506 - 07/17/18 12:22 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Use a thin top layer, coir or verm or both. Putting the bag all the way down the jar, instead of the zippy bit right at the threads, seems to hold more moisture to. Just move it back up when they need the space.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: LtLurker]
#25331667 - 07/17/18 01:54 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah I have a thin layer of Verm, I was thinking of adding some coir but I’m only at day 8 so I might wait it out a few more days. Just thought it was weird the only place it was pinning on BOTH was the darkest.
I will lower the bag today.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: FredyMech]
#25332844 - 07/18/18 01:26 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mist lightly and regularly, rather than a bunch once a day
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hey,
everyone just checking in to give you my update and see if there's anything I can improve on. some cakes are getting white and others are not? everything was done on the same day with same procedure light misting twice a day once before work once after work. And the temp is a steady 75-77 degrees F.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: cvgrown]
#25344188 - 07/24/18 11:10 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I got some myc spreading into the dry verm layer...I'm assuming that means I'm misting too much? Should I add some more dry verm so there is no exposed myc or should it be good?
The other jar in the pics is on its second flush, has been over a week and nothing...does it look alright? When should I get concerned?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: MayorBobbledoodery]
#25345195 - 07/24/18 08:05 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Once the jar is fully colonized, could you tape the jar bellow the lid line with an opaque tape? Or even just put the jar into a paper bag trimmed to size, in order to avoid side pins? The mushrooms use light as a trigger to let them know when it’s ok to open up, so if they don’t get any light from the side of the jar, would they not just grow longer stems and break the surface before blooming?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: DeerStalkerCap]
#25345263 - 07/24/18 09:05 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Light doesn't cause side pins.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25353670 - 07/29/18 09:52 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: foghat2200]
#25355054 - 07/30/18 01:02 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hi all, I'm starting my first grow today , after a couple of months "research" in the forums and tbh the principle of the brf tek is straight forward enough but there are sooo many different views and opinions on every single step that my head is pretty melted.
I'm panicking over will my jars be ok? Will my enviro be ok? Should i use filter tape? What about a fruiting chamber? Ive read about only 1 out of 6 jars actually being successful, the list goes on (fuck me I'll be needing the shrooms just to get over the panic and anxiety of growing them).
Im afraid that buy not having the exact set up for anygiven tek ill end up taking bits from each one and it all ending in a fuck up, but this tek seems to be a no bullshit, fucking get the spores in there and get them grown kind of tek (which suits me).
So that's what I'm going to do. If it's ok with everyone could I post a few pics along the way just to make sure I'm on the right track? I'm sure all us noobs get on the same way and the experienced guys are answering the same shit day in day out. I will use the search as much as I can but like I say with so much info here it's not a case of finding the right thread more like finding the right paragraph or sentence.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Bumholio]
#25355061 - 07/30/18 01:47 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I’m looking to start my first grow too, since it’s been a pain trying to acquire them by other means. I bought brf, some jars, isopropyl, and I have gloves. The other stuff I’ll pick up no problem, but spores are now my grail. I tried several online retailers and many of them won’t ship to CA, and that’s if they ship to the US at all. Another site apparently was going to accept it, but my bank rejected the payment. Probably due to fraudulent activity concerns.
Hopefully I’ll grow more than I’ll need for a loooong time. Will have to figure our the best way to store extra, and of course, MAKE PRINTS, so if I ever need to start again, I’ll be good to go.
Good luck! I’d like to see how it goes.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: DeerStalkerCap]
#25355076 - 07/30/18 02:34 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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I’m looking to start my first grow too, since it’s been a pain trying to acquire them by other means. I bought brf, some jars, isopropyl, and I have gloves. The other stuff I’ll pick up no problem, but spores are now my grail. I tried several online retailers and many of them won’t ship to CA, and that’s if they ship to the US at all. Another site apparently was going to accept it, but my bank rejected the payment. Probably due to fraudulent activity concerns.
Hopefully I’ll grow more than I’ll need for a loooong time. Will have to figure our the best way to store extra, and of course, MAKE PRINTS, so if I ever need to start again, I’ll be good to go.
Good luck! I’d like to see how it goes.
IKR!!! I tried quite a few European sellers but the payment methods didn't suit. then I found cylocybe they are in the UK but ship world wide, so far the service has been faultless, I just need to collect the package but I'm nearly sure everything is in order.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Bumholio]
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Quote:
DeerStalkerCap said:
I’m looking to start my first grow too, since it’s been a pain trying to acquire them by other means. I bought brf, some jars, isopropyl, and I have gloves. The other stuff I’ll pick up no problem, but spores are now my grail. I tried several online retailers and many of them won’t ship to CA, and that’s if they ship to the US at all. Another site apparently was going to accept it, but my bank rejected the payment. Probably due to fraudulent activity concerns.
Hopefully I’ll grow more than I’ll need for a loooong time. Will have to figure our the best way to store extra, and of course, MAKE PRINTS, so if I ever need to start again, I’ll be good to go.
Good luck! I’d like to see how it goes.
IKR!!! I tried quite a few European sellers but the payment methods didn't suit. then I found cylocybe they are in the UK but ship world wide, so far the service has been faultless, I just need to collect the package but I'm nearly sure everything is in order.
I checked them out, no hassle payment, ordered a syringe of B+ which I’ve heard is supposed to be a beginner friendly variety. I hope to be able to report back positive results.
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#25369330 - 08/06/18 01:56 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Gonna do this TEK cuz I ain't got a PC yet, can't wait to see how it goes. Stoked!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Bumholio]
#25369975 - 08/06/18 11:19 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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don't freak spray Lysol all over bath room smallest one in hse and just take your time dont over load your jars and you should be fine
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: foghat2200]
#25369999 - 08/06/18 11:31 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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don't freak spray Lysol all over bath room smallest one in hse and just take your time dont over load your jars and you should be fine
I'm not sure who you're talking to, but don't spray lysol or work in your bathroom. Lysol does nothing and bathrooms are dirty & moldy.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: LtLurker]
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: foghat2200]
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don't freak spray Lysol all over bath room smallest one in hse and just take your time dont over load your jars and you should be fine
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25376656 - 08/09/18 07:45 AM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Will definitely try. I like the simplicity.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25395491 - 08/18/18 12:12 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is awesome, I'm going to use some flavor of startup technique but it really looks like Bod likes to use whole grain with a specific type of tub and coir. It seems almost too easy to bulk that way.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25398579 - 08/19/18 01:28 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry If this has already been answered.
I am using wide mouthed half pint jars. After consolidation and removing the dry verm layer, I will put them back in the jars with new verm.
Is this verm supposed to be moistened to field capacity before I put it in or misted as needed?
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#25398701 - 08/19/18 02:25 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doesn't matter. If you're putting it in wet you would not need to immediately mist it to get it wet
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25400662 - 08/20/18 12:57 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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first attempt great guide overall, thank you!!
So I am at the part where I'm misting it daily after consolidation, but I have am unsure what to do right now. I see 2 pins already and they are at the very bottom of the jar. What do you guys recommend I do with them? ie, should I let them grow, keep misting, or take it out and move it to a larger surface/bucket or anything like that?
these are the photos
 
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Pusynality]
#25400672 - 08/20/18 01:02 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Up to you, a few side pins never really bothered me. Most of em come out the top
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25400704 - 08/20/18 01:19 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you. Looks nice. I think we should always do the easiest way, if new methods comethat are easier than the old.
As in the most elegant way. And the easiest is always the most elegant.
Overwork is no king worthy.
Only if there is some severe reasons to use harder methods, should we. I mean if it works reliable 90% or 95% of the time, I'm all for it.
I hate doing overwork.
I tell you people get conditioned to most anything. With the prideful idea that only their way could be right.
I seen some impressive grows that not been produced the pftek standard way or shroomery standard way, but nonetheless still seemed to produce very stable and impressive fruit.
People will hate anything that is not their own.
It is good idea to with new methods to state how many times tried, how reliable it been.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: meekm09]
#25412020 - 08/25/18 08:40 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just like he wrote up, add a thin top layer, throw a bag on top for humidity, mist as needed. Yields are gonna vary even when done right. Not all my pints make that much, genetics plays a role.
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Trial and error is always your best bet. Everyone's conditions are different. Where I am there's rarely much humidity so I leave the bag on all the time. Open air just doesn't work out for me.
Typically I'm doing this with questionable jars I'm not using for bulk spawn. Sometimes when it's an extra jar that looks healthy, I'll break it up, mix in some bulk, and put it back in the jar to eliminate the gap between cake and glass. I get better top pinning that way and don't have to fish sidepins out of the jar(especially those RM pints).
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: meekm09]
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You shouldn't need a humidifier unless you're setting up a controlled martha. Just tenting them with a bag or headspace in a tub is enough to maintain it's own humidity.
For surface moisture experience really, but here's a guide on it to.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053
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You shouldn't need any, just leave that lid loose or upside down. Lotsa people run unmodded tubs all the time.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: meekm09]
#25412350 - 08/25/18 11:44 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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yup
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker *DELETED* [Re: LtLurker]
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: meekm09]
#25412450 - 08/25/18 12:36 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alright man, I mean this nicely, but these questions are startin to be a bit like spoon feeding. You got this man, don't start second guessing and asking about each detail. You already know the terms, does the tek say to do anything with the verm before dunk & roll?
Also, here's the 2 most useful tools here.
The Main Tek list
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24297804
The Search Feature
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/search.php
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: LtLurker] 1
#25413220 - 08/25/18 07:12 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cool, so I got some pretty good growth for my first time I think. Should I start harvesting them as they come or wait till they all are ready?
Unsure on how to handle my situation with this jar below, what do you guys think?
   
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker *DELETED* [Re: meekm09]
#25425524 - 08/31/18 06:37 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker *DELETED* [Re: bodhisatta]
#25425783 - 08/31/18 08:49 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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 Maybe I came across too mean? Didn't mean to.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker *DELETED* [Re: LtLurker]
#25425824 - 08/31/18 09:13 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe I came across too mean? Didn't mean to.
Ur bad Lt 
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Bumholio]
#25446639 - 09/09/18 04:00 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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That looks awesome, I am yet to start my first grow and would like to try some edibles before I go with the cubes.
Are there any edibles that I can apply this Tek to?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Casi Loco]
#25448029 - 09/09/18 03:53 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Coming soon, fuck this non detachable power cord. Detachable power cord modifications are going to be made.
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25486778 - 09/24/18 09:27 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the awesome guide my friend. Newbie here sorry to bother you with a question. So when it's time to fruit using half pint jars just remove the barrier rinse off the cakes and place back in the jar and add more verm on top? No need to dunk for 14 to 18 hrs? Do you clean the jar before placing it back after the rinse?
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25486791 - 09/24/18 09:34 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pressure cooking in front of your flowhood is like double wrapping your condoms ;p
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: AetherCleft]
#25486819 - 09/24/18 10:00 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pressure cooking in front of your flowhood is like double wrapping your condoms ;p
You open it in front of the hood 
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Psilfan7]
#25486820 - 09/24/18 10:00 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Thanks for the awesome guide my friend. Newbie here sorry to bother you with a question. So when it's time to fruit using half pint jars just remove the barrier rinse off the cakes and place back in the jar and add more verm on top? No need to dunk for 14 to 18 hrs? Do you clean the jar before placing it back after the rinse?
Any of that will work. I would dunk
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25486869 - 09/24/18 10:28 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ik, it's inferred, but I couldn't pass it up.
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You open it in front of the hood
Aaannd that's what she.... Damn I thought I was better than that.
Ok, /invade if that's still a forum thing...
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25488277 - 09/25/18 02:40 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank oh wise one! Lol
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Psilfan7]
#25493639 - 09/27/18 05:14 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Venting vs weight from the start no venting.
Same cooker with one quarter taped to the weight.
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25506473 - 10/02/18 02:39 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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When you say:
'If using a bigger jar you won't need to birth the cake at all because there's no dry verm barrier. Just add some verm to the top and moisten it'
why won't there be a dry verm barrier in the first place? According to the PF TEK that you posted you have to put the dry verm layer on top?
I'm confusion
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: psyle]
#25506483 - 10/02/18 02:42 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not necesarily. You can skip the dry verm layer and use a filter lid if you want. Helpful for larger jars because they work better when not full with brf.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25110988
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: LtLurker]
#25508128 - 10/03/18 04:17 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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I love it, Amazing!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25519875 - 10/07/18 02:55 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Thethicctricc]
#25524056 - 10/09/18 10:25 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quick autistic noob question that I didn't see an answer to after reading and re-reading all parts of the TEK multiple times:
When Spawning to bulk (using BOD's Easy AF monotub and coir TEKs), do the cakes need to be dunked and rolled before being shredded and mixed?
Appreciate the help, and really excited to get started!
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: magicaltwiggz]
#25524112 - 10/09/18 10:53 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nope, dunk wouldn't hurt but not necessary. Rolling would be completely pointless. Also skip the consolidation time if using cakes as spawn
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
#25524170 - 10/09/18 11:14 AM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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Perfect, thank you! Grabbing the last of my supplies today, then anxiously awaiting the arrival of my B+ and GT syringes!
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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: magicaltwiggz]
#25534642 - 10/13/18 02:02 PM (5 years, 6 months ago) |
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To prevent side pins, would it be worth wrapping the edge with a black bag?
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