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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Waker]
    #25877841 - 03/16/19 12:17 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I spawned 2.5qts of BRF jars to 10qts of coir a ratio of 1:4

Do you think it's okay to put immediately into "growing conditions" with such a high ratio of substrate?

Here's the progress after 3 days of spawning:


As you can see I have quite a bit of FAE, but RH in the apartment is around 60%. I still end up misting 2-3 times a day. I lock the lid at night or if I'll be away at work.

I just don't know if I'm "fruiting" too early. But as you said in your unmodified tub tek you don't make a distinction between "colonization" and "fruiting" conditions when spawning to bulk.


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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Octopus8]
    #25879473 - 03/17/19 06:30 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the info about to start soon


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Re: The cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: BOWSERS MUSHROOMS]
    #25881287 - 03/18/19 01:43 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

My first jar ever! 

Thank you for the teks dude!


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Colonized cakes pinned early. Birthed, not dunked. [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25898665 - 03/26/19 06:24 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Two days ago I birthed 5/7 of my cakes all contained in half pint jars.
Three of the cakes were birthed early because they were pinning or forming very obvious knots 3-5 days after they were visibly fully colonized.

Earlier in the thread it was mentioned that dunking was optional and to just feel it out if it was necessary or not.
I don't have an experiential point of reference to know how the cakes should feel or look, but retrospective intuition tells me now they are a lacking water weight/density.

Two of the cakes are developing a slow but steady stream of hyphal knots and pins, while the other three that were birthed early have either mostly paused production or are just restarting a few hours ago. Although, that doesn't seem to be all too unusual.
They all look healthy. No bruising or discoloration has occurred. The two that are still producing well have slow growing but strong looking mushrooms growing up and outwards towards the open air. One is already peeking its head out. :smile:

So, my question is, what is the wisest course of action to ensure best yield quality and size going forward?
Do we dunk the three or do we pick what we have and dunk all five at once?
I don't have syringes for injecting water and I'd have to wait for them to ship over here. I don't feel comfortable with shipping questionable medical supplies to my house anyway.
Perhaps we're overthinking and just upping the amount given during their daily water ration is well enough all that needs to be done.

I've already asked myself what to do, but I'd really like to know your guys would do if you were taking care of these cakes. Thanks for reading!


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    #25898725 - 03/26/19 07:02 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Pick them up see if they even need water


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Re: ( . )Y( . ) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25898773 - 03/26/19 07:28 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I did when I birthed them.
I read on another forum a few minutes ago that they should feel like a cup of water but they didn't mention anything about the size of the material they were handling. They felt light, but like I said, I don't really have a point of reference to compare them to.

Do you think the cup of water observation to be accurate?


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25906002 - 03/30/19 01:56 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

This is an awesome thread! This is my first grow, and I am not sure it is working. I inoculated 6 half pint jars of huatla and 6 of costa rica (from sporeworks) on 3/16. They have been sitting at 70-75 degrees with ambient light, no direct sunlight. They look pretty much like this:



Did I kill them? Should I just wait longer, or start over? Thanks for all the great information so far.

PW

EDIT: Should I have made this it's own post under Getting Started?


Edited by pollywog (03/30/19 02:18 PM)


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: pollywog]
    #25908322 - 03/31/19 05:58 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Not a expert, but black is not the right color you should be seeing.

Edit: allthough it's possible it might just be charcoal from your sterilizing.


Edited by Theshroommeister (03/31/19 05:59 PM)


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Theshroommeister]
    #25908577 - 03/31/19 09:11 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

This is actually a macro shot of the jar, overall it looks pretty much like it did 2 weeks ago. Vermiculite colored. I should have made one jar with no spores just so I had a control to compare to. Thanks for the input!
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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: pollywog]
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Re: ( . )Y( . ) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25909769 - 04/01/19 03:20 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Pick them up see if they even need water



Nice pair :laugh2:


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Raider510]
    #25909776 - 04/01/19 03:24 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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I did when I birthed them.
I read on another forum a few minutes ago that they should feel like a cup of water but they didn't mention anything about the size of the material they were handling. They felt light, but like I said, I don't really have a point of reference to compare them to.

Do you think the cup of water observation to be accurate?



Sort of. Just learn to judge cakes and you'll never forget.

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pollywog said:
This is an awesome thread! This is my first grow, and I am not sure it is working. I inoculated 6 half pint jars of huatla and 6 of costa rica (from***) on 3/16. They have been sitting at 70-75 degrees with ambient light, no direct sunlight. They look pretty much like this:



Did I kill them? Should I just wait longer, or start over? Thanks for all the great information so far.

PW

EDIT: Should I have made this it's own post under Getting Started?



You can always make your own thread.
It's only been two weeks.

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Identification forum for identifications see the sticky posts. They look like some common backyard mushrooms not psychedelic. Don't eat unidentified mushrooms it's nature's Russian roulette.


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25912226 - 04/02/19 07:25 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I went and started a thread. Seems like a lot of posts have at least something showing in the first week, just wasn't sure how long to wait before trying again. Thanks for the input, this site is incredible!

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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25915206 - 04/04/19 09:38 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

To clarify, If I want to grow out of jar with bag, I still have to birth, dunk, and roll, then add back to jar and finally add verm on top?


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: Andyc95]
    #25915667 - 04/04/19 03:14 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Wont fit back in the jar rolled in verm. Just a little verm on top. You can take the cake out to dunk or add water to the jar. Or any other way you want to hydrate it


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25925051 - 04/09/19 01:29 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Hi Guys just read the whole thread as I didn't want to be asking questions that have already been answered [hopefully I'm not :smile: ].

The jars I'm planning on using are slightly more narrow at the mouth than the main body of the jar. Do you think this will be a massive problem when it comes to birthing the cakes? Someone above said if you cant get the cake out you could submerge the whole jar, could anyone else speak to this?

Originally bod didn't mention submerging the cake at all and it seems some people have conflated ideas from different teks when giving advice. I would have thought by submerging the cake for 24 hours you'd end up with a drastically higher moisture content than if you'd simply removed the verm barrier and then moistened it a bit with spray.

Cheers for any help in advance.


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25928589 - 04/11/19 11:14 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Just put a bag over 2 of my 6 total pint jars, added new verm and misted. These 2 are the only jars that have any pins out of all my jars. Should I go ahead and move the other jars into fruiting or wait until I see pins on each one? Thanks for any help! Will post pics if needed.

edit: I also didnt dunk, there seems to be a lot of moisture already and I read it isn't necessary.


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: cxbar]
    #25928597 - 04/11/19 11:16 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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L0PM0W said:
Hi Guys just read the whole thread as I didn't want to be asking questions that have already been answered [hopefully I'm not :smile: ].

The jars I'm planning on using are slightly more narrow at the mouth than the main body of the jar. Do you think this will be a massive problem when it comes to birthing the cakes? Someone above said if you cant get the cake out you could submerge the whole jar, could anyone else speak to this?

Originally bod didn't mention submerging the cake at all and it seems some people have conflated ideas from different teks when giving advice. I would have thought by submerging the cake for 24 hours you'd end up with a drastically higher moisture content than if you'd simply removed the verm barrier and then moistened it a bit with spray.

Cheers for any help in advance.



If you cant get it out you can't get it out.
You can add water to the cake any way you please. Dunk spray bottom water etc..

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Just put a bag over 2 of my 6 total pint jars, added new verm and misted. These 2 are the only jars that have any pins out of all my jars. Should I go ahead and move the other jars into fruiting or wait until I see pins on each one? Thanks for any help! Will post pics if needed.

edit: I also didnt dunk, there seems to be a lot of moisture already and I read it isn't necessary.



Cake jars go into fruiting a week after full colonization


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25928641 - 04/11/19 11:35 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Thanks so much!


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Re: Bod's easy AF cheapest way to get started by yourself no need for a pressure cooker [Re: cxbar]
    #25933163 - 04/13/19 08:31 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

How can you tell when these are mature?
Also any tips on harvesting? Ideas on getting second flush?



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